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What happened to Will Mackenzie?
Many of you who have played Storymode through have wondered what Will Mackenzie happened to Episode 2 when Mathis hit him with an hatchet on the head?

After playing episode 3, I realized that Astrid figured out to look for the Mackenzie dam (for he didn't know he was right there) while continuing his journey toward the Perseverance Mills probably Coastal Highway.

It might be the case that Mackenzie's fate survives maybe 4 episode, which is likely to be played again by Astrid and we'll see how badly Mathis was hitting Mackenzie.

My first (and worst) scenario is that Astrid finds Mackenzie dead when she faces the Mathis ja finds the hardcase and gets to it with Perseverance Mills.

My second scenario is that Mackenzie will survive with a long scar on his face, losing his consciousness, but succeeding in escaping dam with the hardcase weir Mathis Chase.

The third scenario is similar to that of another scenario, except that someone discovered Mackenzie and rescued his Mathis from the clutches.

What do you think about this?
What is your vision of Mackenzie's fate?
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IFIYGD Nov 5, 2019 @ 10:45am 
Will isn't going to be dead. That would not fit the story.
Mathis does not want him dead, Mathis thinks Will has a plane, knows he is a pilot, and thinks Will can fly him off the island.
He is using the threat of death to "convince" Will to do what he wants.
Mathis is the ultimate toxic bully.
He cares only about himself, but his greed and anger will end up being his downfall, I suspect.

We'll find Astrid and Will meeting up again in Episode 4 or 5.

I am not going to guess how. I'll wait to play the last 2 Episodes, and learn the story that has been written for them. But I am hoping Mathis gets what's coming to him, in a most painful way.
Originally posted by IFIYGD:
Will isn't going to be dead. That would not fit the story.
Mathis does not want him dead, Mathis thinks Will has a plane, knows he is a pilot, and thinks Will can fly him off the island.
He is using the threat of death to "convince" Will to do what he wants.
Mathis is the ultimate toxic bully.
He cares only about himself, but his greed and anger will end up being his downfall, I suspect.

We'll find Astrid and Will meeting up again in Episode 4 or 5.

I am not going to guess how. I'll wait to play the last 2 Episodes, and learn the story that has been written for them. But I am hoping Mathis gets what's coming to him, in a most painful way.
It was just my vision of what Will could happen.
I personally would not want Mackenzie to die.

That is why I also put two other options on the assumption that Mackenzie survives Mathis attack in one way or another.

I myself look forward to the following 2 episode to which we can only present guesses about upcoming events and challenges.
IFIYGD Nov 6, 2019 @ 3:23pm 
You asked for people to give their opinions.


Originally posted by petteri.pitkanen.92:
What do you think about this?
What is your vision of Mackenzie's fate?

I gave mine. :)
L3TUC3 Nov 10, 2019 @ 4:44pm 
Mathis will end up with an arrow to the back. Thanks Molly!
IFIYGD Nov 10, 2019 @ 9:00pm 
Originally posted by L3TUC3:
Mathis will end up with an arrow to the back. Thanks Molly!
I kind of wonder if Mathis is going to be a choice Astrid has to make. Kill him to save Will (even if Will is going to get free and survive anyway), or let him live and let his own hubris be his undoing. I get the feeling the Timber wolves will not care much about Mathis' sense of self-importance.
petteri.pitkanen.92 Nov 11, 2019 @ 10:32am 
Originally posted by L3TUC3:
Mathis will end up with an arrow to the back. Thanks Molly!
Not Mathis dead to Molly's arrow.

It is witnessed by a scene in which Astrid recognizes the radio receiver through Mackenzie's voice at the very same time when Will himself attempted to contact Jeremiah's arsenic's short-wave radio until it broke.

It remains to be seen if Mackenzie save himself Mathis ridding or someone save him?
stylegamr Jan 26, 2020 @ 7:46am 
Probably Trapper or Methusela will save him.
Originally posted by stylegamr:
Probably Trapper or Methusela will save him.
Possibly a trapper.

Most likely he would continue The Ravine through The Coastal highway without knowing about Mackenzie's fate.
However, he would encounter Astrid's 4 episode and would tell her where he saw Mackenzie earlier when Astrid one way or another would save him. (If Mackenzie is still alive.)
Survivalist83 Jun 4, 2021 @ 2:50am 
Originally posted by L3TUC3:
Mathis will end up with an arrow to the back. Thanks Molly!
Well Mathis got her first Mathis's conversation with Will at the exit of the CareterDam suggest that he traveled through Pleasent valley to reach the dam and he talks about how he did something to a Woman so it is presumable that Molly actually attacked Mathis but failed and Mathis Killed her or did something worse than death to her
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rhwilson1953 Jun 4, 2021 @ 11:36am 
I think Will Mackenzie suffers from a multiple personality disorder and it's this disorder which split Will and Astrid apart to begin with. Now, Molly rescues Will and he falls in love with her. In the end Will decides to stay with Molly on the island while Mackenzie decides to return to Astrid and patch up their marriage.

lol
Last edited by rhwilson1953; Jun 4, 2021 @ 11:37am
Originally posted by rhwilson1953:
I think Will Mackenzie suffers from a multiple personality disorder and it's this disorder which split Will and Astrid apart to begin with. Now, Molly rescues Will and he falls in love with her. In the end Will decides to stay with Molly on the island while Mackenzie decides to return to Astrid and patch up their marriage.

lol
I don't think Will would suffer from a multiple personality disorder. It could have seen at the beginning of Wintermute. Instead, alcohol is the reason for the divorce.
Originally posted by Vzzdak:
Keep in mind that Mackenzie’s experiences are a fever dream, so what happens is going to build upon previously established elements. For example, there was that Forest Talker in a cabin, which Mackenzie helped, whom could provide assistance.

My money is on Molly rescuing Mackenzie, then nursing him back to health, and subsequently falling in love with him. And then in Chapter 5, Molly realizes that Mackenzie is Astrid’s partner, which causes her to sacrifice herself to save Astrid, so that Mackenzie can ultimately be happy with Astrid.
It's hard for me to imagine Molly ever falling in love with another man again, after her late husband ruined her life.
Originally posted by Michael Anderson:
Originally posted by L3TUC3:
Mathis will end up with an arrow to the back. Thanks Molly!
Well Mathis got her first Mathis's conversation with Will at the exit of the CareterDam suggest that he traveled through Pleasent valley to reach the dam and he talks about how he did something to a Woman so it is presumable that Molly actually attacked Mathis but failed and Mathis Killed her or did something worse than death to her
How would Mathis have made it through plesant valley to the dam when the route there is (Storymode) blocked?
rhwilson1953 Jun 9, 2021 @ 4:25pm 
Originally posted by petteri.pitkanen.92:
Originally posted by Vzzdak:
Keep in mind that Mackenzie’s experiences are a fever dream, so what happens is going to build upon previously established elements. For example, there was that Forest Talker in a cabin, which Mackenzie helped, whom could provide assistance.

My money is on Molly rescuing Mackenzie, then nursing him back to health, and subsequently falling in love with him. And then in Chapter 5, Molly realizes that Mackenzie is Astrid’s partner, which causes her to sacrifice herself to save Astrid, so that Mackenzie can ultimately be happy with Astrid.
It's hard for me to imagine Molly ever falling in love with another man again, after her late husband ruined her life.
As I see it, since Molly admits to Astrid that she killed him, it's Molly's late husband which has the ruined life. And she's weird enough to keep his body in the basement instead of leaving it outside to feed the bears and wolves.
rhwilson1953 Jun 10, 2021 @ 5:50am 
Originally posted by Vzzdak:
Was it clear whether Molly had killed her husband before, or after, the event?
Doesn't matter, she killed him and he's lying dead in the basement.

The bear that Will killed was actually a ranger in disguise investigating the true killer of all those bodies laying around. He mistakenly thought the Old Trapper had gone berserk and was responsible. But since Will killed him with the spear we will never know the true culprit is Molly.
Last edited by rhwilson1953; Jun 10, 2021 @ 6:01am
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