Leaderboards Record Times??

[RM1985]

Can someone tell me, what the times in the leaderboards mean??
It's a bit confusing, some guy on top has 9900 hrs or so, but that can't be his survival time, that would be over 400(!) days. Even my time is confusing, it's currently 37 hrs or so, but ingame, I'm at day 24 already. SO WHAT DO THESE NUMBERS MEAN???

[Uocjat]

i'm guess exploits or some such for the 9/8K + times (or they're times from before save tampering was patched out for leader boards)

as for your own score i don't think it gets recorded untill you die

[Bole]

You get around 900.000 aquairable calories off the map and with optimal play you can last cca 400 days with that provided you dont get killed by any of the possible deaths and that you dont run out of antibiotics, clothes or other items before food is out of reach.

[RM1985]

But I dont think, someone made it already to survive 400 Days, the game is just 2 weeks out. It's almost impossible.
@Uocjat: But now my score makes sense, my best time before was 1 Day and a few hours, probably 13.

[sevo]

explore, survive, learn, learn ...

[RM1985]

I am, but that's not all, before all you need time, I mean it take lots of time to survive for that long. And I checked out a few profiles of the top 10 on the leaderboard and there is just something wrong. For example, #1 has only played 12.7 hrs and survived 414(!) days, NO F**KIN WAY! For that long time you would need alot more hours, at least 150-200 estimated. And he is not the only one.
I also checked out the achievements and how fast they were achieved, some took only 30-60 min. to survive 10 days, max. 90 min, one guy took only 3 minutes(!!!) to survive 30 days. Am I the only one, who finds that a bit weird??? THAT'S JUST IMPOSSIBLE!

[Bole]

Results are ok, on my current run i am at day 50 with 3/20 ammo fired, with 25 kg of frozen stored meat, resorces under control and i am looking at the long haul here, 400 days is realistic. I have progressed 20 in game days this evening so with a free week you can get there.

[Machin Shin]

it would be more clear if the boards would show Days not Hours

[RM1985]

How can you progress 20 days in only one evening, how long did you play, must've been at least 7-10 hrs?

[BubbaGurt]

It's called save scumming. There is no possible way a person can survive for that long, of course they rolled their saves for any time they have made a mistake. So it's like a perfect run with no mistakes. Of course people have created trainers for this game already. With infinite calories, infinite food, water, warmth, fatigue, hunger, god mode and even fast forwarding time without the decrease in anything. So it counts on the leaderboards, even if they have cheated. Which is so unfair for regulars that go on surviving without rolling back their saves.

It should show their Survival Log and how they survived all those days, you never know. You might see someone cheating. Nothing you can really do about, and you can't tell if they have really cheated or not, but save scumming and rollbacks are for wussies.

[Machin Shin]

yep and a mode where all actions save the game not only sleep and entering a room

[maurice]

Where can I find the leaderboards? Thanks.

edit: nevermind found it.I got 16th.WooHoo

[Uocjat]

Originally posted by maurice:

Where can I find the leaderboards? Thanks.

community hub's main page top left theres a 'view stats' button from there you can get to personal/global leader boards and achivements (properly an easier way to get there but can't be bothered to find it)



as for 400 days +
assuming 900k cal for a map is correct (though i'm not sure how you'd get to that number as it's somewhere around atleast 40 deer/wolves assuming you get to eat all of it) it would be technically possible provided all you do is sleep and eat cal burn during sleep is listed as 85/hour

so thats 2040/day which adds up to 441 days leaving you with some 40 days to spare or ~10% giving you about 2.4 hours a day you can spend on:
hunting / harvesting the meat / gathering wood / cooking / smelting snow / boiling water / eating and drinking (note that i'm not even counting that added cal burn for the time you're awake here)

ofcause you could cut out the cooking and boiling water but you'd either need a truck load of antibiotics or extream favor with the RNG gods to make it to 400 days legitimitely that way

but even so without having done the exact math im fairly sure you'd end up spending alot more time hunting / harvesting meat / gathering wood / melting snow than 2.4 hours a day
ofcause all that means is just that you need a higher map total of calories
though for every hour you're awake extra per day over the course of 400 days you'd need to find an extra 80,000 calories or about 3-4 deer/wolves (estimateing 200 extra cal burn per hour while awake and about 22,000 cal for a freshly killed deer or wolf)

as for the real time taken it might well be possible to do within a day or two of play time since all you really do is sleep which significently speeds up the ingame time


tl;dr:
based on the almighty power of science and math i here by declare 400 days of survival either extream favor with the RNG gods or at best suspect

[Transfer Orbit]

Originally posted by RM1985:

I am, but that's not all, before all you need time, I mean it take lots of time to survive for that long. And I checked out a few profiles of the top 10 on the leaderboard and there is just something wrong. For example, #1 has only played 12.7 hrs and survived 414(!) days, NO F**KIN WAY! For that long time you would need alot more hours, at least 150-200 estimated. And he is not the only one.
I also checked out the achievements and how fast they were achieved, some took only 30-60 min. to survive 10 days, max. 90 min, one guy took only 3 minutes(!!!) to survive 30 days. Am I the only one, who finds that a bit weird??? THAT'S JUST IMPOSSIBLE!

Yeah, the current #1 shows only 12.7 hrs played with 9980 hours survival time, which makes absolutely no sense.

Run a stopwatch and measure the in-game clock. The game clock ticks 1 minute for every 5 seconds of real time. That's a x12 multiplier (5 seconds x 12 = 60 seconds, which is 1 mimute).

So if the current #1 ran the sandbox game for 12.7 hours without ever dying until the end, that's only an in-game survival time of 152.4 hours (That's 12.7 hours of real time play x 12 = 152.4 hours survival time, about 6 days plus one morning).

Okay, so let's assume the #1 is running the game without steam so it hasn't logged all the hours correctly (I know some games from steam can be run this way). Work the problem in reverse, if the #1 actually survived 9980 hours in-game on a standard game clock (x 12 multiplier), then just divide the survival time by 12 to get the actual time played: 831.6 real hours of play. That's 34.65 days (just over a month of real time playing).

34 days straight of playing a game that's only been available on steam since Sep 22?!?! Today is Oct 8, that's 16 days. 34 days of real time play in 16 real days is not possible through normal play.

The obvious conclusion: the leaderboards are currently topped by bogus survival records made possible only by either tampering with the save file values or by tampering with the game to increase the time acceleration while stopping the calorie burn. It's sad, but it's just how gaming is, if you leave something unsecured, somebody will definitely exploit it.

TL;DR The leaderboards as they exist right now are completely unreliable, don't believe them, they serve no useful purpose or point of reference.

[Uocjat]

Originally posted by TheRealNFK:

Originally posted by RM1985:

I am, but that's not all, before all you need time, I mean it take lots of time to survive for that long. And I checked out a few profiles of the top 10 on the leaderboard and there is just something wrong. For example, #1 has only played 12.7 hrs and survived 414(!) days, NO F**KIN WAY! For that long time you would need alot more hours, at least 150-200 estimated. And he is not the only one.
I also checked out the achievements and how fast they were achieved, some took only 30-60 min. to survive 10 days, max. 90 min, one guy took only 3 minutes(!!!) to survive 30 days. Am I the only one, who finds that a bit weird??? THAT'S JUST IMPOSSIBLE!

Yeah, the current #1 shows only 12.7 hrs played with 9980 hours survival time, which makes absolutely no sense.

Run a stopwatch and measure the in-game clock. The game clock ticks 1 minute for every 5 seconds of real time. That's a x12 multiplier (5 seconds x 12 = 60 seconds, which is 1 mimute).

So if the current #1 ran the sandbox game for 12.7 hours without ever dying until the end, that's only an in-game survival time of 152.4 hours (That's 12.7 hours of real time play x 12 = 152.4 hours survival time, about 6 days plus one morning).

Okay, so let's assume the #1 is running the game without steam so it hasn't logged all the hours correctly (I know some games from steam can be run this way). Work the problem in reverse, if the #1 actually survived 9980 hours in-game on a standard game clock (x 12 multiplier), then just divide the survival time by 12 to get the actual time played: 831.6 real hours of play. That's 34.65 days (just over a month of real time playing).

34 days straight of playing a game that's only been available on steam since Sep 22?!?! Today is Oct 8, that's 16 days. 34 days of real time play in 16 real days is not possible through normal play.

The obvious conclusion: the leaderboards are currently topped by bogus survival records made possible only by either tampering with the save file values or by tampering with the game to increase the time acceleration while stopping the calorie burn. It's sad, but it's just how gaming is, if you leave something unsecured, somebody will definitely exploit it.

TL;DR The leaderboards as they exist right now are completely unreliable, don't believe them, they serve no useful purpose or point of reference.

Originally posted by Uocjat:

as for the real time taken it might well be possible to do within a day or two of play time since all you really do is sleep which significently speeds up the ingame time

based on your math you're assuming that the person is awake the entire time which is highly unlikely to be the case

i just checked ingame and advancing time 24 hours while sleeping takes about 28 seconds of real time and thats including increasing the timer to 12 hours twice (you can only sleep 12 hours at a time) so 400 days is actually possible in a little over 3 hours
28 * 400 = 11200 Seconds = 186.6666~ Mins = 3.111~ Hours

[RM1985]

@TheRealNFK: Yea, that's what I said, it's just impossible, and not just #1, I checked out ALL profiles (which are not private) from the top 10 and they all seem to have a bit faked/cheated times.
But your calculation is just for the real time, when your awake, not for sleeping, cooking or foraging wood, which runs faster. My estimated time for 1 day survival is about 20-40 minutes, based on what you do during the day.

@Uoucjat: Yea, but you could only do 400 days in 3 hours playtime, when you sleep the whole time, and that is NOT possible without cheating!