Water from snow doesn't need to be boiled

[Nathan]

It's cool and realistic than you have to boil water to make it safe to drink, but IRL water from melted snow doesn't need to boiled to be safe to drink

Not sure if you knew this and just did it to add an extra bit of challenge, but yeah, it bothered me a little.

Great game so far!

[Interzone]

Boil your water because chemtrails! lulz

[Beetroot]

I was born and raised in rural Alaska. Boil your snow.

Yes you may be fine, but in a situation where hospitals, cars, roads medicine are not easily available, don't play around with your survival. A tummy ache is all it takes sometimes.

[Fluoride]

I would at least like the option to be able to melt and boil my snow in one step, but not replace the options to do both seperately like we have now.

[DakotaBear]

Originalmente postado por Antihero:

Originalmente postado por Hinterland:

It is not safe to drink water derived from melted snow. There can still be bacteria and microbes that can make you sick. The best way to avoid becoming sick from melted snow is to boil it.

Speaking as an avid outdoorsman from Sweden who does much winter camping every year, I have to disagree. Clean, usually freshly-fallen snow, which I think you'll agree is quite abundent in a northern wilderness, is perfectly safe to drink without boiling. Obviously snow that is dirty or discolored in any way or has clearly been disturbed (animals, people) should be treated with caution. Is it safe to say that when ordered to collect snow, the game's character doesn't disciminate?

The possibility of animal contamination exists if you're not careful. (The game is from the perspective of William McKenzie, who has no formal survival training.)

Hinterland wants to make this game about decisions you have to make, and evaluate risk vs. reward, and I think this is a reasonable way to implement that process.

[DakotaBear]

Originalmente postado por Isaak:

I would at least like the option to be able to melt and boil my snow in one step, but not replace the options to do both seperately like we have now.

Theres a reason for that. if you only have 15 mins of fire left, you can partially melt snow. You can't partially boil water. If gives you the best maximization of your resources.

[Mr. Self Destruct]

How many people have actually taken snow and melted it in a pot? You'd be amazed at the amount of debris that comes to the surface, even with freshly fallen snow. Any bit of dust or dirt in the air attaches itself to the snow as it falls, and it only takes one of those specks of dust to have bacteria on it, and give you any number of digestive illnesses. Wind will blow debris from nearby trees, and bushes, where animals live, spreading their waste over the snow, even if you can't really see it, it's there.

Next time you get a snowfall, go look closely at that clean white snow, and you'll see specks of black throughout the entire field of it.

I sure as hell boil any water source I get from the wild, because I've seen the effects of dysentary, and I don't want that.

[Interzone]

Originalmente postado por lateraliss:

How many people have actually taken snow and melted it in a pot? You'd be amazed at the amount of debris that comes to the surface, even with freshly fallen snow. Any bit of dust or dirt in the air attaches itself to the snow as it falls, and it only takes one of those specks of dust to have bacteria on it, and give you any number of digestive illnesses. Wind will blow debris from nearby trees, and bushes, where animals live, spreading their waste over the snow, even if you can't really see it, it's there.

Next time you get a snowfall, go look closely at that clean white snow, and you'll see specks of black throughout the entire field of it.

I sure as hell boil any water source I get from the wild, because I've seen the effects of dysentary, and I don't want that.

This is so true. I remember doing this as a kid and there was plenty of foreign matter in the water.

[calkhi]

It depeneds on the snow. If it's on a commonly traveled path, boil it after melting. If it's under a tree or bush, boil it after melting. If it's on a non-commonly traveled peice of land, I'd prefer to boil it to be safe, but you don't really need to boil it. If it's freshly fallen, you don't need to boil it. Also, the human immune system is better than what it is portrayed in game. If you have an unopened can of food with no puncture marks in it, you can still eat that and you'll be fine. So no, this game isn't realistic, but what do you want, hard or real? Seriously, someone ought to start a poll.....*Ahhem, hint hint, nudge nudge, devs?*

[icecold951]

Originalmente postado por Niknud:

The only snow that doesn't have to be boiled to drink safely is new fallen snow.

You boil water because of microbes. But fallen snow isn't lake water. It might get dirty after a while, but that isn't the same thing as lake water. Not to mention if I was going to use snow for water, I wouldn't first melt it, then seperately go through the process of boiling it. I'd just do it in one go.

[TattooedMac™]

Originalmente postado por icecold951:

I wouldn't first melt it, then seperately go through the process of boiling it. I'd just do it in one go.

This part is for in-game decision making. I have melted the snow, now do I boil the 1.5lts or just 0.5 lt just enough to get me over the mountain to home, and use the purification tablets and save myself some time ??
This game is ALL about decision making, and this is why the melt/boil snow action is in there.

Cheers

[Honelith]

Not to mention drinking frozen or cold water would mess up with your body temperature especially in a freezing environment, wasting calories your body would need to keep itself warm.

Also, as a game mechanic, it adds an element of challenge, gives you something else to consider.

[BR|sCip]

how to get snow i cant pick it up... ?

[Mirage à trois]

Originalmente postado por honelith:

Not to mention drinking frozen or cold water would mess up with your body temperature especially in a freezing environment, wasting calories your body would need to keep itself warm.

Also, as a game mechanic, it adds an element of challenge, gives you something else to consider.

Theres an idea, water temperature. Freshly boiled water will be warmer and will temperarily increase the percieved temperature and cure the freezing status effect.

[Interzone]

Originalmente postado por <<VisitoR>>:

how to get snow i cant pick it up... ?

It's an option that appears along with the firestarting. You don't need to collect snow to do it.

[BR|sCip]

Originalmente postado por Portalist:

Originalmente postado por <<VisitoR>>:

how to get snow i cant pick it up... ?

It's an option that appears along with the firestarting. You don't need to collect snow to do it.

Thank you