Cooking with ruined ingredients?

[Rainbow Blitzz]

Hey hey,

So yeah I was wondering, can I still use ruined carrots and potatoes to cook? You seemingly cant do so with ruined meat as I just found out. Sucks but at least meat is easy enough to come by.

Cheers~
Oh and happy holidays!

[Night Sparrow]

Nah, you can't use ruined ingredients for recipes now. Maybe it's a bug, maybe they did it deliberately to implement Meat Curing/Trader box mechanic. Cooking is definitely much less enjoyable now.

[Rainbow Blitzz]

Originally posted by Night Sparrow:

Nah, you can't use ruined ingredients for recipes now. Maybe it's a bug, maybe they did it deliberately to implement Meat Curing/Trader box mechanic. Cooking is definitely much less enjoyable now.

That kinda sucks, especially when going for that achievo where you have to cook 9 recipes. Its basically a run against time cuz when the ingredients spoil youre out of luck. Idk why the trader cant offer you some, I mean he sells everything else like salt, oil and flour after all. Doesnt make sense...

[Vault Dweller]

Not being able to use ruined ingredients effectively removes cooking from the game especially long term, since potatoes and carrots are an extremely limited non-renewable resource. A ridiculous change tbh.

[Night Sparrow]

Originally posted by Vault Dweller:

Not being able to use ruined ingredients effectively removes cooking from the game especially long term, since potatoes and carrots are an extremely limited non-renewable resource. A ridiculous change tbh.

Well, you will run out of potatoes and carrots anyway. It doesn't break cooking, just makes it annoying to prepare and utilize materials at hand.

[Rainbow Blitzz]

Would be interesting if one could "harvest" potatoes or carrots for seeds or so, or find seeds. Since we can make furniture now you could make a little gardening pot. Use rotten meat or food as manure, maybe find a heat lamp or so, making use of already scarce water, could maybe take a week or two, maybe even a month. What do you think?

OR

Have the damn trader trade you some...

[Night Sparrow]

Originally posted by Rainbow Blitzz:

Would be interesting if one could "harvest" potatoes or carrots for seeds or so, or find seeds. Since we can make furniture now you could make a little gardening pot. Use rotten meat or food as manure, maybe find a heat lamp or so, making use of already scarce water, could maybe take a week or two, maybe even a month. What do you think?

OR

Have the damn trader trade you some...

You find a heat lamp... And then remember that there is no electricity anymore

[Izzy]

Originally posted by Rainbow Blitzz:

Would be interesting if one could "harvest" potatoes or carrots for seeds or so, or find seeds. Since we can make furniture now you could make a little gardening pot. Use rotten meat or food as manure, maybe find a heat lamp or so, making use of already scarce water, could maybe take a week or two, maybe even a month. What do you think?

OR

Have the damn trader trade you some...

Wouldn't be surprised if those potatoes/carrots in trades would cost you 10x the calories they actually give lol. Some of the current trades look like they were put through a random number generator:
Canned Corn x1 - 12(!!!) Fir firewood
Cereal x1 - 20(!!!!!!!!) Cedar firewood

What the ♥♥♥♥ LMAO

While I understand that we trade renewable stuff for unrenewable items, the price is still CRAZY to say the least. Corn can at least be used for cooking, but other items like Cereal, dried fruit, pineapple etc? If they're just collector items, why ramp up the price to the point where 90% of players prolly won't EVER trade for them? Damn.

[Rainbow Blitzz]

Originally posted by Night Sparrow:

You find a heat lamp... And then remember that there is no electricity anymore

Aurora? Or heck, connect the heat lamp to a car battery. Maybe one can even find a small indoor gardening set up inside a cellar like the Pleasant Valley Farmstead for example. My point being that it isnt as impossible as it sounds.

Originally posted by Izzy:

Wouldn't be surprised if those potatoes/carrots in trades would cost you 10x the calories they actually give lol. Some of the current trades look like they were put through a random number generator:
Canned Corn x1 - 12(!!!) Fir firewood
Cereal x1 - 20(!!!!!!!!) Cedar firewood

What the ♥♥♥♥ LMAO

While I understand that we trade renewable stuff for unrenewable items, the price is still CRAZY to say the least. Corn can at least be used for cooking, but other items like Cereal, dried fruit, pineapple etc? If they're just collector items, why ramp up the price to the point where 90% of players prolly won't EVER trade for them? Damn.

I mean he wanted 3 car batteries for a piece of paper telling you how to crack two eggs... Obviously its grossly unbalanced, on the other hand one also doesnt need most of that stuff. Guess its just for very late game when youre drowning in wood and pelts and it just doesnt bother you.

[cpl trout]

It feels like the devs hate the players.

[Glowstone]

I had tons of ruined Salmon at my base , that was left in the lost and found...I cooked them anyways and was 50% when cooked...waste not want not..

yes defiantly cooking is off the awards list, thanks Hinterland Devs

[Courteous]

Originally posted by Night Sparrow:

Nah, you can't use ruined ingredients for recipes now. Maybe it's a bug, maybe they did it deliberately to implement Meat Curing/Trader box mechanic. Cooking is definitely much less enjoyable now.

Yeah, looks like a new surprise feature, which wasn't done properly. Right now list of ingredients in recipe still shows ruined ones as available and doesn't highlight them with red, but the entire recipe "requires ingredients you don't have". Very confusing.

[{O|G} Erik the Red]

Quoting myself from my patch notes comment:

Originally posted by {O|G} Erik the Red:

On the subject of ruined cooking, I noticed ruined oats still works for porridge making, it mostly seems to affect syrup and canned peaches (I am unsure about other ruined ingredients). The numbers will show the correct ingredients when white, but will have the red note saying insufficient.

However, I found a workaround by carrying more cans of peaches and containers of syrup (non ruined) to do some cooking, and it does seem to have used up my ruined ingredients first such that I still have the higher condition amounts left in inventory.

[Glowstone]

so basically doing the cooking award will require a re-start!?

[Glowstone]

I dont kow if its been changed now, but i had a ruined potato and got caught in a blizzard with no food and freezing...cooking it saved my life

[MadBone12]

Originally posted by Glowstone:

I dont kow if its been changed now, but i had a ruined potato and got caught in a blizzard with no food and freezing...cooking it saved my life

This thread is not about cooking ruined food which can still be done. It's about using ruined ingredients for recipes, which does not seem possible any more, at least for some items. Which doesn't make sense since it limits using recipes even more - some ingredients are already not renewable and now if you find them ruined or at low condition, you can't use them at all for cooking the more advanced items, making the new cooking system even less useful in late game than it is already. Not sure if it's a bug but if it's an intended feature, it's a bad change.