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Lawh Jul 11, 2015 @ 10:43am
Best Food Source
What do you think the best food source is? (This is also ignoring the hides you get, and what you can make from them)

I don't mean what gives the most calories, or has the best calories/weight ratio. I mean, what is the best way to obtain food, when considering your limited supplies like ammunition, metal for arrowheads or repairs, healing items for if you get attacked, etc. So this question is mostly focused on what happens after you've used up all or most of the man made food resources.

If you shoot all the wolves you see, you're going to run out of ammunition pretty soon, and you run the risk of being attacked, and you will also miss a few times here and there, not to mention the inaccuracy of the bow making it pretty much useless against wolves.

Shooting deer is safer, and does give better quality meat, but shooting them also depletes your ammo quite a lot. Using a bow to shot deer works quite well, but the arrows break, and making more of them takes saplings, iron, and feathers.

Killing bears takes around 3 shots per bear, unless you get lucky. The meat is awesome, and you get so much of it you'll live for a week. Killing bears is risky business unless planned well, and using a bow to kill a bear I haven't even attempted. Sometimes the bear runs away, and you need to be pretty close to base to be able to get all the resources out of it in one go.

Rabbits don't give much food, but snares don't seem to break easily, which means you'll get "free" food just by waiting. I've mananged to break one snare, when I went out for a run and it took me 3 to 4 days instead of one. On my return, I found one out of two snares broken on the field.

Fishing seemed to be a relative good way to obtain food, but opening up the ice takes a huge toll on the ice breaking equipment (knife/hatchet), so opening up the ice every time, or keeping it open, takes a lot of planning, so that you can fish for a long time without it closing. One has to sleep sometime.

One trick I use every time possible is to lure deer to wolves, and get at least two animals with one shot, when the wolf is eating the deer. It works best if you see two or more deer in the same place near a wolf, and lure them to it one by one. You get relatively good food + good hides + ok guts that way.

For me, the two best options are luring deers to wolves, and the bears.

*POSSIBLE SPOILER*

I live in the valley, in the farm house. A bear comes by every now and then. I've used around 8 shots on two bears (2x3 shots for 2 kills, and once the bear ran away and I couldn't find it after two shots). The amount of food is massive, and the food starts going bad, but if I eat only that, the food wont go bad and I'll get everything out of it.

Are there any other ways you have gotten food? And also, is starving oneself beneficial, if losing health is not a problem (if you stay inside and get to sleep well every night). I think it is, but I don't know if there are some hidden drawbacks to it.
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reggiedunbar Jul 11, 2015 @ 10:47am 
Everyone now and then there is a bear that patrols right past the Pleasant Valley farmhouse. You can shoot him from the enclosed porched and he can't reach you to attack back. He will even approach you so you can get a better shot at him. One arrow to the face and he's lunch.
NorX Jul 11, 2015 @ 2:47pm 
Using the bow on a wolf isn't that difficult. Drop a decoy first and it will stay stationary for a while, allowing you a decent shot.
Bomoo Jul 11, 2015 @ 2:53pm 
It sounds like you're playing on pilgrim. I'm going through entire bears before the meat gets below 70% on voyageur.
GravyTrain Jul 11, 2015 @ 5:21pm 
I use animal meat for at home or short excursions where I know I'll be freeing up the weight before hauling something back. I use the same techniques as already mentioned. For travelling/exploring, I use prepared food, especially Energy bars and Crackers or if I've got them MRE's. The Calorie to Kg ratio is great with those. I only eat cans of food on the spot, or really early in a playthough before I have much gear.

I rarely eat Rabbit meat. Mostly I use it for lures, and fishing is far from ideal due both to the better use of fishing gear for sewing as well as the godawful weight to Calorie ratio that fish provide.
Hotzn Jul 11, 2015 @ 7:33pm 
The best way to get food is obviously without using any resources at all.

Since the rabbits have now guts, snaring rabbits uses almost no resources (apart from the occasional snare breaking, which consumes 1 reclaimed wood, but there is so much reclaimed wood in the game it's practically limitless).

The best way is to chase a deer into a wolf in such a manner that the wolf brings down the deer where it can be aggroed away, either by the player or by some other animal. Jackrabbit Island is a good place for this. If a wolf brings down a deer on the island, it will soon be aggroed away by rabbits. Part of the deer now remains free for the taking. Camp Office is good for the player to aggro the wolf away from the carcass and slip into the building. Sleep one hour and get back out to harvest the deer for free.

Another way is to have a wolf bring down a deer and sneak up from behind (crouching). When you get very close, the wolf will stop eating and lift its head, sniffing the air, then start searching for you. Sometimes it will then run away scared if you are wearing the wolfskin jacket. But sometimes you will also get into a handfight and lose resources (bandage and antiseptic).
HunterKiller (Banned) Jul 11, 2015 @ 7:53pm 
aggroed

Noun
# aggravation Aggravation; bother.
# chiefly UK - aggressive Aggressive behavior; loud, intimidating behavior that convincingly threatens violence without necessarily actually becoming violent.
# online gaming - A measure of how belligerent a player is – a high value may inspire either avoidance or preemptive hostile action from enemies.
# online gaming MMORPG slang - Hostile attention from an enemy gained by acting belligerently.

Adjective
# Australia slang - angry Angry.
# online gaming MMORPG slang - Liable to attack without being attacked first (said of monsters).
# British slang - hardcore Hardcore, aggressive.
# US slang - radical Radical, aggressive, hardcore.

Verb
# online gaming MMORPG slang - To bring the attention from the hostile non-player characters to oneself or one's party, often by getting close enough or attacking without being attacked first.


Please use the word in proper content. This word makes no sense in your post and that's it.

To be plain and simple for all others trying to make sense of it, the word, 'dragged' away works just fine.

Thank you.
GravyTrain Jul 11, 2015 @ 7:57pm 
That's a little pedantic... By aggro'd away he means that the wolf will become "aggro'd" on another target. His use or misuse of the word didn't warrant that kind of response. His post contributed to the discussion, yours did not.
Lawh Jul 12, 2015 @ 1:20am 
I guess HunterKiller doesn't really understand how language works.

I can live with the bear meat for days. I play on medium difficulty. Maybe you eat a bit too much if you run out of it.

I've never used lures etc, though I did think of it early on in the game. This is actually the first time I've checked any info on the game, since I enjoy the thinking, rather than just finding a guide and following that. It sort of defeats the purpose of the game for me. I've been doing a lets play and am on around day 60 now I think. I've looted all the locations I know of, and have moved all my items into the farm in Pleasant Valley. Last time I killed the bear from my porch, the first time it surprised me as I just found the location. I wasn't sure how the porch worked but I tried it out a couple of days ago and it worked good. But I have only succesfully one shotted a bear once. It takes three shots usually, even in the head. For some reason I think the rifle is either very inaccurate, not to mention the bow, or then I jsut miss by an inch every time, which would be weird.

I've been playing with the bow a little bit, headshotting a deer works with one shot, but it is quite hard to aim it but I gotta train it I guess. The aim just wobbles too much but I gotta find the sweet spot for releasing the tension so the arrow flies straight.

I think the rabbits are good as a complementary food source, and like someone said about the fishing, they weight like 2.5 kg, and the calories are awful. The first time I tried it I thought it might be a good way to sustain yourself in times of desperation, but I doubt I'll go fishing again any time soon.

I've used up almost all of the man made food products, but i do have a good amount of ammunition, and I don't think I've lost a single arrow yet.

I didn't know the clothing affected how animals behave. I think as I was trying to see whether I could repair the crafted clothes, the game crashed on me for the first time ever, so I thought I'd use up the cloth to fix my current clothes, and then move on to using the crafted clothes.

But in the end, I do think the bear is best for food, and luring deer to wolves is best for hides, since you get two a pop. But I still wouldn't go fighting a wolf with the bow. Any tips on how to be better at aiming with it?

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EDIT: Btw, trying to use actions on the crafted clothes crashed my game again, I just tried it, and the game just freezes. Also, the weight of those clothes is 0.0 kg, which I find odd as well. I'm not sure I want to be wearing glitched clothes in a game like this since if hte game freezes on me, I could possibly lose a lot of progress. Anyone else have this issue?
Last edited by Lawh; Jul 12, 2015 @ 1:50am
n00bas Jul 12, 2015 @ 2:03am 
Originally posted by Hotzn:
Since the rabbits have now guts, snaring rabbits uses almost no resources (apart from the occasional snare breaking, which consumes 1 reclaimed wood, but there is so much reclaimed wood in the game it's practically limitless).

Not even. You can retrieve the reclaimed wood by harvesting the ruined snare. The only thing it does consume when it gets ruined is the guts, but the rabbits give you plenty of that so it is an unlimited resource. The only issue would then be your knife or matches(when clouded), since they are almost always frozen (for me at least, even going there in the morning).

I suggest putting the snares in a small circle where the sun can come so you can warm them all up with a single fire using your magnifying glass. You can then harvest them with your hands so you will get resources at only the cost of your clothing. I hope we can pick them up in the future, that would save clothing as well.

n00bas Jul 12, 2015 @ 2:09am 
Originally posted by Lawrence:
EDIT: Btw, trying to use actions on the crafted clothes crashed my game again, I just tried it, and the game just freezes. Also, the weight of those clothes is 0.0 kg, which I find odd as well. I'm not sure I want to be wearing glitched clothes in a game like this since if hte game freezes on me, I could possibly lose a lot of progress. Anyone else have this issue?

If you havn't done this already, you should really post this in the bug/technical issues section. Hinterland will probably want your save game, unless the problem is known. It might be fixable.
Lawh Jul 12, 2015 @ 2:44am 
I sort of figured out what was wrong.

I didn't realize you could work on the clothing in stages, so I just made a wolf skin jacket for example, work on it for the minimum of 30 minutes, and then have it as a wearable item, where it didn't weight anything, and the quality was still 100%.

So I think I just found a glitch. Now that I worked on the items for the 12 hours, they weight something. But this also means, that one can make wolf clothing without actually using up any of the resources. So it's quite the glitch. I still have to try whether harvesting the fully crafted items crashes the game or not.
GravyTrain Jul 12, 2015 @ 10:07am 
You might also try verifying your game cache in steam. It's possible you had a corrupted file.
GravyTrain Jul 12, 2015 @ 10:09am 
Also, as soon as you work on them you get an "unfinished" version and as you work on it you consume the materials. So your 4 wolf hides and guts will get consumed and as that happens the item starts gaining weight as you lose the materials. I'd verify that as well.
Anelyn Jul 12, 2015 @ 10:21am 
Originally posted by n00bas:
Originally posted by Lawrence:
EDIT: Btw, trying to use actions on the crafted clothes crashed my game again, I just tried it, and the game just freezes. Also, the weight of those clothes is 0.0 kg, which I find odd as well. I'm not sure I want to be wearing glitched clothes in a game like this since if hte game freezes on me, I could possibly lose a lot of progress. Anyone else have this issue?

If you havn't done this already, you should really post this in the bug/technical issues section. Hinterland will probably want your save game, unless the problem is known. It might be fixable.

It's a known bug, I made a thread on it and instantly got a dev response. Just finish crafting the item and it will be fine (you will be able to repair it or harvest it and no CTD / freezes).
reggiedunbar Jul 12, 2015 @ 12:37pm 
Originally posted by HunterKiller ®:
aggroed

# online gaming MMORPG slang - Hostile attention from an enemy gained by acting belligerently.

# online gaming MMORPG slang - Liable to attack without being attacked first (said of monsters).

# online gaming MMORPG slang - To bring the attention from the hostile non-player characters to oneself or one's party, often by getting close enough or attacking without being attacked first.

Please use the word in proper content. This word makes no sense in your post and that's it.

Looks just fine to me.

In games, monsters are said to have an "aggro" radius.
If you step inside this area you will "aggro" the monster.
Once the monster has been "aggroed" it will move to attack you.
If a monster gets too far from it's patrol path it may "leash" back.

"Oh no! Wizard69 just aggroed the entire whelp cave!"

It's gaming jargon.
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