Paradoxical Undressing

[cfett199]

***This is in no way meant to be a serious request, just hypothetical spitballing***

Hypothermia brings with physical ailments, very serious mental impairments as well. Assuming the freezing debuff (full cold bar) marks a body temeprature of 90-95F (32-35C) (begining of mild hypothermia) our character can stark walking oddly and looking around oddly, with minor loss of control (you imputs may not be registered, or produce an counter or otherwise unintended action) persuant with confusion. This becomes worse as cold continues. Under moderate or severe hypothermia (82-90F/28-32C mod 68-82F/20-28C severe) we run the risk that our player character will start paradoxical undressing, taking off and dropping clothes without our control. 20-50% of hypothermic deaths feature such occurances. Imagine having to deal with such a potential hinderance.

[cfett199]

Not even a nibble? How disappointing, I thought this woud atleast stir some conversation.

[Thutmosis]

Dunno there are already plenty of people undressing to spare their clothes ... even if it doesn't work, most of them freeze to death, and is beyond silly in a survival scenario ... :P

[cfett199]

Originally posted by Thutmosis:

Dunno there are already plenty of people undressing to spare their clothes ... even if it doesn't work, most of them freeze to death, and is beyond silly in a survival scenario ... :P

True, but unlike parodoxical undressing where you are not even conscious of it, players are deliberately, at 100% condition, electing under full cognizance, to remove their clothing. I'm sure they wish they could use the pretense of a hypothermic induced stupor to justify their errors.

[Nerva Matapan]

I believe that the "freezing" bar is simply a measure of how close we are to suffering from severe hypothermia. IE -- we don't drop to a critical stage where we're sustaining permanent physical damage or significant mental incapacitation until we reach 0%, and are dead. Keep in mind, there are no hospitals out there -- a severe injury (including cold-induced necrosis) = fatality.

[cfett199]

Originally posted by Shrike Arghast:

I believe that the "freezing" bar is simply a measure of how close we are to suffering from severe hypothermia. IE -- we don't drop to a critical stage where we're sustaining permanent physical damage or significant mental incapacitation until we reach 0%, and are dead. Keep in mind, there are no hospitals out there -- a severe injury (including cold-induced necrosis) = fatality.

Perhaps. The way I view it, seeing as how there is no condition loss from empty to full 'cold' bar, the realm of the bar is between 35-37C (90-98F) body temperature, more a sense of 'comfort' so to speak. Once condition loss sets in with a full cold bar, you can make a linear relationship (excluding condition loss from other sources) with 100% condition at 32C/90F and death at the low point of 20C/86F, open to variation because every person is different. You will not see particular body damage at 35-37/90-98F but it will be somewhat quantifiable below to corrolate with condition loss, requiring legitimate rewarming (healing) to counter.

[cfett199]

Originally posted by customhitcher:

It be sort of cool if the cold bar for severe hypothermia would reflect RL, when you get to the point of severe hypothermia,the body wants to go to sleep,anywhere it can. In RL it is extremely hard not to do as the body wants and severe hypothermia fools you into believing you are warm and have no problems. Been there, done it a few times.Told myself I was a-OK.
Wife found me almost asleep with chainsaw still running.Still in dog house over that. lol.

Quite the harrowing experience, good thing you didn't slip into a RL Long Dark. I've never been nearly that cold, though the rifle range at Stone Bay in February is very cold by North Carolina standards. The suggested physiology of paradoxical undressing is that obviously, when you're cold, the body undergoes vasoconstriction of the extremities to keep the core warm. However, at a certain point, the muscles lining the blood vessels tire out, allowing for a massive rush of blood back to the extremities and skin, which acts as your body's thermometer, giving a hot flash. You've also cited the feeling of extreme drowsiness which is also true, and terminal burrowing is also a real possibility, a last ditch effort that rarely succeeds.

If this kind of cold reaction is implemented in game, it'd be very punishing indeed, as I'm sure many players toe the line with freezing, though I highly doubt it'd be implemented. I will only allow it if I'm on jackrabbit island harvesting my snares right outside my door and only to 80%