Better bases and pastime reading mods don't work. Is it possible to solve this?

[Pickle15]

Are these mods outdated? Do you have them working well?

Placing anywhere works well in my game so I guess Melon loader is ok and the problem is with these two mods. Better bases ruins the game and pastime reading just doesn't work

[rush_247]

Originally posted by bladerunner97:

Make sure you are using ML v0.6.1. But you'd be better off asking your mod support questions over on Discord. All you're going to do here is pi** off the Devs.

I think you may need to rethink/rephrase that statement, given that Raph has admitted he uses mods himself it should be obvious that the devs' views on them have changed or were possibly even completely misunderstood.

https://twitter.com/RaphLife/status/1678426266708619264?t=LumrYn59n7roIaRCuYwrUg&s=19

[rush_247]

It may take some time to find an official statement like that but here's one saying that they're going to release their own modding tools at some point. Likely after ep 5 has been released.

https://twitter.com/RaphLife/status/1373821842574635018?t=O_HJ99wGfff3QyzJGwiVnQ&s=19

[Pickle15]

Originally posted by bladerunner97:

Make sure you are using ML v0.6.1. But you'd be better off asking your mod support questions over on Discord. All you're going to do here is pi** off the Devs.

Thank you for your help! This solved the problem with Pastime reading but Better bases still freezes the game when a save is loading. Tried several mod versions including the last one. Do you have any ideas?

[rush_247]

Originally posted by bladerunner97:

Originally posted by rush_247:

It may take some time to find an official statement like that but here's one saying that they're going to release their own modding tools at some point. Likely after ep 5 has been released.

https://twitter.com/RaphLife/status/1373821842574635018?t=O_HJ99wGfff3QyzJGwiVnQ&s=19

No worries. I've seen similar statements over the (9) years of following this game. All similarly vague in their content. Years ago, there was a statement saying mod support would be added before the end of development. Lost in time now so don't hold your breath on that one.

Ok well anyway, I think what we're doing here is confusing them not supporting mods (unofficial ones that is) right now with them not liking mods.

Additional: Also I don't think they really care how you talk about mods on here, I've encouraged their use and provided links to some in the past and have not been banned, haven't even received any warnings from them for this behavior. If I was doing these things on their official forum however it'd probably be different.

[Pickle15]

Thank you all for your responses!

[{O|G} Erik the Red]

Originally posted by rush_247:

Ok well anyway, I think what we're doing here is confusing them not supporting mods (unofficial ones that is) right now with them not liking mods.

Additional: Also I don't think they really care how you talk about mods on here, I've encouraged their use and provided links to some in the past and have not been banned, haven't even received any warnings from them for this behavior. If I was doing these things on their official forum however it'd probably be different.

It used to be their stance on mods was, Don't talk about mods. Here on the forums anyhow. Reasoning was supposedly because they were/are developing their game, and despite what should be common sense of playing with mods at one's own risk, Hinterland didn't want to deal with a flood of support requests (and complaints, lets face it) for issues from "my mod broke the game" to "game update broke my mod". It was very taboo subject; very strict, yes, but moderation was also very clear upfront on this and very effective.

And honestly, after seeing the community of Valheim players, I can sort of see why. I get a risible laugh at how entitled some can be and lack the understanding how game vs mod development works. The Long Dark forums have always been blessed as a welcoming, non toxic, Canadian safe space on the internets; and even when there have been a few arguments and debate, it was usually well thought out discussion with regards to the game. I believe this is in large part due to the clear forum guidelines and the enforcement of its moderation, what basically should be at first considered common courtesy anyhow.

[Diggity]

Originally posted by rush_247:

The Long Dark forums have always been blessed as a welcoming, non toxic, Canadian safe space on the internets; and even when there have been a few arguments and debate, it was usually well thought out discussion with regards to the game. I believe this is in large part due to the clear forum guidelines and the enforcement of its moderation, what basically should be at first considered common courtesy anyhow.

Untrue - they are extremely PC, heavy-handed, humourless and the hall monitor there is very aggressive. Enter at your own risk.