cabin fever ? wtf ?!

[CAPITAINE KRIEK]

i traveled all the way from mystery lake to the gold mine where the backpack is , then all the way to the contaminated zone , now just as i rest a bit before resuming my travels BAM cabin fever .
wtf ? i'm almost ALWAYS outside exept for sleeping at night .
is there something i don't get ?

[lkandrb]

If you do a lot of crafting in a brief period, or sleep out a storm, you will get out of balance. Sleeping in cars or non-transition caves as much as possible minimizes the risk. I find the new improvised down bedroll makes it much easier to sleep in cars for longer periods. I try to do most of my reading in them too.

[Balloon Dog]

IMO cabin fever is kind of a dumb mechanic at least the way its implemented. It's really annoying having to cart around bear skins for a week travelling from place to place in order to craft a bear coat. Because staying indoors for a couple of days while doing something constructive will send you mad.

[summerlands]

yes it is ott, cabin fever would not kick happen just because you slept a night indoors then done some reading, needs toned down to realism.

[lkandrb]

Just to be fair, you can play custom and turn 'mechanics' you don't like off. I detest the sprain mechanic, so I turn it off. Having lived far enough north where the days were 2-4 hours long six months of the year and vice versa, it does make people buggy. Didn't bother me personally much, but there were those who just walked the halls like zombies when they couldn't sleep in broad daylight.

[darkscaryforest]

This sounds like a bug you found, but it is *possible* for this to happen depending on time frames. The following is just an example where it would be possible.

Cabin fever is judged over a sliding window of around 6 days. If you ever spend too much of that time in what's considered indoors, you get it. The window, the calculation is moving every minute.

While you might have a day you mostly travel outside, you *may* still be replacing a day that had even more time outside 6 days ago. For example, maybe you slept in a cave 6 days ago and today you slept indoors in the contaminated zone. All that sleep time outside gone.

Of course, you'd still need a ton of time indoors in between those moments.

If you traveled that whole time without a break, I don't see how it's legit for cabin fever.

[Vulfgar Adler]

Cabin fever is disabled. I'm playing with custom settings

[Agent_Orange]

cabin fever requirements are met by being in mines
the mechanic uses a rolling 144 hour in game window
if you are "indoors" longer than 113 of those 144 hours, you start to have risk.
if you go to 144/144 hours, you receive the affliction I believe, though it may be lower like 130-140 from my observations, or it is rounding up hours to a point.

cabin fever is EASIER to trigger while travelling because the player walks so damn slow that you would use sprinting and exhaust the player in just 4-5 hours in game, far less when climbing ropes. you can find yourself sleeping 15 hours a day average if you are aggressively trying to get somewhere. if you chose to do all this sleeping in houses where its safe and convenient, and then duck into mines for multiple days, you will easily get hit with the risk warning.

[iwasa]

Non-interior caves have two zones. One is "outside" and the other is "inside". You can find the boundary (at least for me in my experience) by a +8 C temperature change between outside and inside.

Inside is the same as being inside a building or interior cave. It counts as being inside in the cabin fever calculation. So you can spend all your sleep time and passing time and everything else in the "inside" zone which means you're shifting the balance towards cabin fever.

I would hesitate to affirm this to be absolutely true so YMMV, but this could help explain why cabin fever risk might arise even when ostensibly one thinks it shouldn't.

Good luck.

[Balloon Dog]

Originally posted by iwasa:

Non-interior caves have two zones. One is "outside" and the other is "inside". You can find the boundary (at least for me in my experience) by a +8 C temperature change between outside and inside.

Inside is the same as being inside a building or interior cave. It counts as being inside in the cabin fever calculation. So you can spend all your sleep time and passing time and everything else in the "inside" zone which means you're shifting the balance towards cabin fever.

I would hesitate to affirm this to be absolutely true so YMMV, but this could help explain why cabin fever risk might arise even when ostensibly one thinks it shouldn't.

Good luck.

I don't believe that's true. You can dry skins and things in caves like indoors yes. But i personally have slept in caves with cabin fever risk for hours and its gone when i wake up. I'm also only talking about the small caves not the ones with loading screens on the entrances. If they were counted as indoors that wouldn't happen would it? My risk would get worse and i would end up afflicted.

I believe there are some mixed zones which behave different as inside and outside depending on what they are used for. For instance the glass balcony in the Pleasant Vally Farm acts as an outside area when storing meat and foods but it is considered inside by the cabin fever mechanic. The opposite is true of caves, meat will spoil in the warm section of the cave quicker than the entrance but is counted as outside by the cabin fever mechanic

[PowerOn]

Originally posted by iwasa:

Non-interior caves have two zones. One is "outside" and the other is "inside". You can find the boundary (at least for me in my experience) by a +8 C temperature change between outside and inside.

Inside is the same as being inside a building or interior cave. It counts as being inside in the cabin fever calculation. So you can spend all your sleep time and passing time and everything else in the "inside" zone which means you're shifting the balance towards cabin fever.

Is not the case, the back of the open caves - what you call "inside", don't count for cabin fever.

For example, if I are crafting in Camp Office I do until get the CF affliction, that night I go sleep in the the open cave in Lake Overlook and cure the CF. I sleep in the deepest point of the cave, where are more warm and so don't need make fire - I play Interloper vanilla.

BTW - Cure the CF is more easy than cure the CF warning. CF don't have impact in the health, just don't allow sleep indoor, pass time indoor, an read books.

The Park Office in MT and the outside of Maintenance Shed in BR too don't count for CF, and the Park Office cure guts, is a "special place".

[Volunteer]

Just switch off CF.

[iwasa]

I never played in the game where I would be affected by cabin fever. I assumed that inside conditions in the interior zone of the cave meant that it was INSIDE like in a building for CF purposes. I stand corrected.

[Leonix]

Originally posted by vinyblaster:

It is stupidly implemented yes. Sleep time should not count towards CF. It is just a way to force you to spend at least 1 night a week outdoor.

Yes, why not? I mean, there was a second ice age in The Long Dark, but staying dry and warm inside a building for an extended period of time is bad because it would drive one crazy.

EDIT: It was sarcasm, for those who didn't get it... :D

[Goof]

Originally posted by CAPITAINE KRIEK:

i traveled all the way from mystery lake to the gold mine where the backpack is , then all the way to the contaminated zone , now just as i rest a bit before resuming my travels BAM cabin fever .
wtf ? i'm almost ALWAYS outside exept for sleeping at night .
is there something i don't get ?

its happens when you spend 18.83 hours per day indoors, averaged over the last 6 days

[marejov83]

How many times? Back of the cave (warm part of two layer cave) wills how indoor in stats. You can cure stuff. But it DOES NOT count towards Cabin Fever. For Cabin Fever purposes it is outdoors.

https://thelongdark.fandom.com/wiki/Warm_cave