Wolf fear setting

[Scavenger]

Ok, does anyone have a clear answer as to how this custom setting works?
I find conflicting and vague answers online. From what I seem to see in-game is that it works the reverse as you would think, i.e. low setting means high chance of fear, high setting means low chance of fear, which is absurd but ok, we know some of these settings do this. So is this the case here as well?

[Bobywan]

If you set to pilgrim, wolves will flee. Can you see in custom what the settings are for each mode ?
Probably pretty easy to test: just start a new custom game in like blackrock and test.

[Scavenger]

All modes have it set to medium so no way to tell a difference.
Not that easy to test but I started two custom games on low where the first wolf I see flees from me. I normally never see this behavior at the start of a game when you are no threat. But off course this could just be chance. Has anyone done any substantial testing on this?

[TarjaS]

Originally posted by Scavenger:

All modes have it set to medium so no way to tell a difference.

In Pilgrim the aggression is set to No, so the fear setting is probably irrelevant. Would have been a good way to check it otherwise.

[Rowdy Rob]

The higher you have the setting, the more chance they will fear you and your weapons will have more effect. Same applies to Timberwolves.

[Scavenger]

Originally posted by Rowdy Rob:

The higher you have the setting, the more chance they will fear you and your weapons will have more effect. Same applies to Timberwolves.

Well no see, the Timberwolf setting says 'Timerwolf Morale' which would make you assume higher means tougher but as you can see from difference between modes lower actually means tougher, which is opposite to what would be expected.
My question is, is the same thing happening with the regular fear setting?
Just to show there is no consensus online about this: https://www.reddit.com/r/thelongdark/comments/957d9w/wolf_fear_setting/

[pickle]

Yeah, the timberwolf morale setting is very counter-intuitive due to poor naming of the setting, but at least the description tells us that lower is harder. I don't know the exact answer for the wolf fear setting, but I would think that lower is harder too.

[Rowdy Rob]

Originally posted by Scavenger:

Originally posted by Rowdy Rob:

The higher you have the setting, the more chance they will fear you and your weapons will have more effect. Same applies to Timberwolves.

Well no see, the Timberwolf setting says 'Timerwolf Morale' which would make you assume higher means tougher but as you can see from difference between modes lower actually means tougher, which is opposite to what would be expected.
My question is, is the same thing happening with the regular fear setting?
Just to show there is no consensus online about this: https://www.reddit.com/r/thelongdark/comments/957d9w/wolf_fear_setting/

To make it clearer, higher setting for wolves makes them more wary of you to the point that they will possibly run away.

Higher setting for Timberwolves means that your weapons will have more effect.

[IFIYGD]

This guide explains each setting and how they work (though there are a few typos in it).
None of the custom settings template pages have changed.
https://www.guidestash.com/guide/the-long-dark/custom-settings-the-long-dark/

However- with the Loper loot tables (BRA- Low) spawning in revolvers and other high tier items right now- the loot table refresh may have broken some settings related to loot. I haven't noticed any difference with how custom settings affect wildlife behavior. I don't know that I would trust custom settings to work the way they are supposed to right now- loot in Voyageur is lower than loot in Stalker, but the wildlife behavior seems to be working as expected in my saves. But 1 person makes a very small sample size for testing.

[Scavenger]

Originally posted by IFIYGD:

This guide explains each setting and how they work (though there are a few typos in it).
None of the custom settings template pages have changed.
https://www.guidestash.com/guide/the-long-dark/custom-settings-the-long-dark/

However- with the Loper loot tables (BRA- Low) spawning in revolvers and other high tier items right now- the loot table refresh may have broken some settings related to loot. I haven't noticed any difference with how custom settings affect wildlife behavior. I don't know that I would trust custom settings to work the way they are supposed to right now- loot in Voyageur is lower than loot in Stalker, but the wildlife behavior seems to be working as expected in my saves. But 1 person makes a very small sample size for testing.

Well, I know that page and it just says 'determines', not how.
I know my 'testing' is not that valuable but the Google rabbit hole I went down after my suspicion (no more than that, I am not making any claims either way) made it clear to me that I am not the only one doubting this setting works as most assume.
I don't plan on doing any real testing because I have little enough time to play as it is, I was just hoping someone could give some conclusion on this.

[IFIYGD]

Yeah, Custom Settings only shows the settings HL exposed to us. It doesn't show any of the settings they use, and that may have inter-dependencies, that are still obscured under-the-hood. My suspicion (and it is only suspicion) is that some things that are under-the-hood got broken, which is why the loot tables seem off to many people, and why custom settings may not be acting as expected, or as they used to. And TBH, it's not worth the amount of time it would take me to try to de-obfuscate every game file to see if I see anything that the people who actually wrote the code are missing. They get paid to do that- I don't.Some of the more active and skilled modders may be seeing things that most of us don't (or can't), but I'm not going to hop onto the modding Discord and drill them with a thousand questions.

[Scavenger]

Originally posted by IFIYGD:

Yeah, Custom Settings only shows the settings HL exposed to us. It doesn't show any of the settings they use, and that may have inter-dependencies, that are still obscured under-the-hood. My suspicion (and it is only suspicion) is that some things that are under-the-hood got broken, which is why the loot tables seem off to many people, and why custom settings may not be acting as expected, or as they used to. And TBH, it's not worth the amount of time it would take me to try to de-obfuscate every game file to see if I see anything that the people who actually wrote the code are missing. They get paid to do that- I don't.Some of the more active and skilled modders may be seeing things that most of us don't (or can't), but I'm not going to hop onto the modding Discord and drill them with a thousand questions.

Sure, no, it's not all up to you. Maybe someone knows and can shed some light is all.