Parasites from cooked meat?

[Wolf]

Why does cooked meat have a chance to give you worms? The point of cooking food is to kill the worms.

Then to have it so that the more you eat, the higher chance you get worms from the next piece of meat? How is that even fair, let alone realistic?

I know why you did it devs, i understand the reasoning. But when you make the only renewable food source meat, you can't just penalize people for only eating it.

[DaS]

Originally posted by deunan_of_rubika:

Originally posted by TSmith:

Its always been a risk- reward game for me

With the introduction of the parasites it became Risk-Risk, possible reward ( dont get parasites)

If the devs want to leave the parasites in the game the Risk- Reward should still be there, but make the reward more costly, increase cooking time for risky meat maybe?

Seems like you don't really understand the concept of risk versus reward. The reward is that you get calories. The existence of an additional risk element doesn't magically remove that reward, especially since it is no longer guaranteed that you'll get parasites.

You already had multiple risks in shooting at wolves and bears. There was the risk of injury or death and the risk that you might not instantly kill them and lose track of them, using up resources and having zero to show for it.

There is zero risk in getting parasites if you can simply cook them away especially since fire is a limitless resource.

You are also blowing things way out of proportion, because a 1% chance to get an affliction that gets removed in 24 hours is not a huge risk. Even if you get parasites, you can survive with it untreated for weeks and can forage enough mushrooms and/or antibiotic pills to cure it in the unlikely chance you get them.

Every piece of food below 100% already carries a risk of food poisoning, but you're not complaining about that because of its low incidence.

Why not try actually playing the game for at least sixty days or so you can have an actual in-game perspective of how this affects your gameplay?

I have tested this out, my main issue with it is that they never go away. I ate 1 wolf 3-1/2 meats over a day and 1/4 (game time)after update. had like 12% chance or something. It never went away or decreased. 16 days later I contracted it. Apparently my toon was permanately constipated during that time. The parasite mechanic prob would make more sence if after abstaining from carni meat {for insert time here} the % decresed. Or like real life a pass/fail check dump the %.

[deunan_of_rubika]

Originally posted by DaSkippa:

I have tested this out

No you have not.

Originally posted by DaSkippa:

my main issue with it is that they never go away.

Yes they do. If you'd read my post more carefully then you'd realize that the condition purges out after a 24 hour period. You're describing parasites before the last update changed the affliction.

[SymbolicFrank]

"Carnivorous meat, even while cooked gives you parasites because it is easy to get when you have a gun."

I have a book, called the SAS survival handbook. It's about survival. The thing this game should be about. And it advises to cook or grill any meat, to make it safe to eat. To kill all the things like parasites.

So, this is not a logical game. About surviving. The rules aren't understandable, or common sense. You have to look them up. Because something that is totally obvious might make the game too easy. And we can't have that!

So. Guns and especially bullets are really hard to find. But they make the game too easy if you have one of each!

This really irritated me quite a lot.

[ajb1978]

Ubernecroed.

[jswilliams]

Originally posted by ajb1978:

Ubernecroed.

Yeah, way beyond CPR and defib. Divine intervention-level necro.

Frank, how did you even find this thread? Steam search is so awful even if you searched for

'Parasites Cooked Meat'

you'd have found 374 other threads on top of this one.

[JiffyPopKids]

Well to be fair even if you cook the meat, there's still a chance that's there's worms in it. I've seen people eat well done bear meat, a lot of it, and get worms a month or so later.

[[BKM]Harry]

Originally posted by JiffyPopKids:

I've seen people eat well done bear meat, a lot of it, and get worms a month or so later.

Did they have level 5 Cooking?

[JiffyPopKids]

Originally posted by BKMHarry:

Originally posted by JiffyPopKids:

I've seen people eat well done bear meat, a lot of it, and get worms a month or so later.

Did they have level 5 Cooking?

Haha, I was talking about IRL but yes they're fairly good at cooking.

[jswilliams]

Originally posted by BKMHarry:

Originally posted by JiffyPopKids:

I've seen people eat well done bear meat, a lot of it, and get worms a month or so later.

Did they have level 5 Cooking?

I know my way around recipes. If it's 2 hours at 350F, then save time and 1 hour at 700F.

[JiffyPopKids]

Originally posted by jswilliams:

Originally posted by BKMHarry:

Did they have level 5 Cooking?

I know my way around recipes. If it's 2 hours at 350F, then save time and 1 hour at 700F.

LOL! I'm a real master chef. I can make toast, cold cereal, once I even made a sandwich!

[wowegoo]

Only meat from carnivores have a % of getting worms. But, first of all, you are adviced about. Simply stop eating that meat. I throw like 3 wolves and a entire bear all cooked as soon as i see the risk of worms. A waste of time? probably, but i see as a change in my game planing. The best is the Moose meat. A big hervibore with same quantity as a Bear but clean of parasites risk and a lot of calories by Kg.

[JiffyPopKids]

Originally posted by ZyPhr@™:

Only meat from carnivores have a % of getting worms. But, first of all, you are adviced about. Simply stop eating that meat. I throw like 3 wolves and a entire bear all cooked as soon as i see the risk of worms. A waste of time? probably, but i see as a change in my game planing. The best is the Moose meat. A big hervibore with same quantity as a Bear but clean of parasites risk and a lot of calories by Kg.

I wouldn't say it's a waste of time because you're getting XP in archery or firearms (Unless you shank the wolf in a struggle) and getting meat at the same time. When I play in modes that have worms, I usually eat at max one wolf / bear a day. If the warning goes over 5% chance I'll stop eating the meat and wait until the warming goes away and then I'll continue eating the meat. Slowly.

[wowegoo]

Originally posted by JiffyPopKids:

Originally posted by ZyPhr@™:

Only meat from carnivores have a % of getting worms. But, first of all, you are adviced about. Simply stop eating that meat. I throw like 3 wolves and a entire bear all cooked as soon as i see the risk of worms. A waste of time? probably, but i see as a change in my game planing. The best is the Moose meat. A big hervibore with same quantity as a Bear but clean of parasites risk and a lot of calories by Kg.

I wouldn't say it's a waste of time because you're getting XP in archery or firearms (Unless you shank the wolf in a struggle) and getting meat at the same time. When I play in modes that have worms, I usually eat at max one wolf / bear a day. If the warning goes over 5% chance I'll stop eating the meat and wait until the warming goes away and then I'll continue eating the meat. Slowly.

You always can get in trouble and forced to eat wolf meat (most common, rarely you get forced to eat bear meat) but i see the risk of parasites is extremly high eating carnivore meat so i try to play in the way i not need to eat it unless i'm in a storm without food, etc...

[[BKM]Harry]

Its not that hard to get level 5 cooking within the first 30 days. Especially now you can cook the 0.5 kg bits in half the time. 1 x 8kg deer will net you 16 skill points. bag a moose and you can get 60 skill points.
Its like only ~350 cooking actions to get to level 5

I'd put the raw bear and wolf meat aside until cooking 5.

[Actimel]

When you cook the raw food, where did you put all the unecesery food ? I leave most in fishing hut cabinet storage, but I see they downgrade quite a bit.