The Long Dark

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J!NX Aug 7, 2016 @ 6:06am
So what up with Tomato Soup???
Tomato Soup have more fluid that other more solid foods but for some reason TS doesn't recover thirst and i remember that it did recover thirst.

So what up doc?
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Decho Aug 7, 2016 @ 6:17am 
Tomato soup, at least the tinned variety is quite processed and contains a high amout of salt. If you want to get real world on it, tomato soup is probably not the best thing to eat or consume for thirst. The fluid content vs the salt and processing prob makes it fluid intake neutral if anything. Here's an interesting quote from a health study.
"The saltiest soup tested was Baxters vegetarian Italian tomato and basil, with 3.5g salt per 400g can. This contains more salt than a McDonald's Big Mac and large fries (just over 3.1g)"
The more you know!
J!NX Aug 7, 2016 @ 6:27am 
Right ok but if we follow this logic then TS should make you more thirsty and it doesn't. On to p of that MRE is basically a dehydrated meal and yet it does revocer thirst. If TS doesn't recover thirst because of salt then at least fix it so it make you more thirsty.

Edit:
And fix MRE.... while we consume MRE we should also consume part of our water supply.
Last edited by J!NX; Aug 7, 2016 @ 6:31am
Decho Aug 7, 2016 @ 6:36am 
It is possible for something to contain fluid and salt so it essentially becomes fluid intake neutral while providing calories and been filling like I described above. I'm no nutritionist so I can't comment on if TS falls into that category but it is possible I guess. Also I personally would not mind if the MRE used up a small amout of water when using it but for now I have no problem assuming my avatar just smashes in some snow :steamhappy:
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J!NX Aug 7, 2016 @ 7:16am 
Human body need some amount of salt but not all salts are good for your body and our body needs only small amount of it. Any canned food contains salt but it's the worst type of salt.. it's like difference between tap water and mineral water.
IMHO they should fix TS so it does make you more thirsty and then work on MRE because ther eis no way on earth dehydrated food will make you less thirsty xD Acutally MRE should work kinda like when you make tea or coffe so if you want to eat MRE you need to have some water. Ofc. there is few things in MRE which can be eaten without water like peanut butter/jelly and some sweat cake thing... each country have diff. MRE so it's hard to say what's inside but from what i see Long Dark have US Army MRE which does have 2-3 items which can be consumend without water BUT they will make you more thirsty one way or another.
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EN16M471C Aug 7, 2016 @ 7:47am 
I agree with J!nxter. Especially about the MRE. I did some reading and it does contain (or at least it should) a "Powdered beverage mix: fruit flavored drink, cocoa, instant coffee or tea, sport drink, or dairy shake" and a "Beverage mixing bag". So it definitely should need some water to make.
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J!NX Aug 7, 2016 @ 9:07am 
Standard MRE contains main meal which is dehydrated and req. water, instand drinks (energy, coffee, tea, etc.) which also needs water. There are also salty (or not) crackers, some type of sweet bread, cake or cookie and sometimes even huge energy bar :D Some MRE's have typical energy/granola bar or some type of hard candy with witamins.

One way or another water is essential for MRE to be fully consumed.
J!NX Aug 7, 2016 @ 1:25pm 
Originally posted by Cézanne:
Originally posted by EN16M471C:
I agree with J!nxter. Especially about the MRE. I did some reading and it does contain (or at least it should) a "Powdered beverage mix: fruit flavored drink, cocoa, instant coffee or tea, sport drink, or dairy shake" and a "Beverage mixing bag". So it definitely should need some water to make.

All parts of an MRE are dehydrated food and need to be steam cooked in water.

Not all.
IFIYGD Aug 7, 2016 @ 1:55pm 
Ah. MRE's. A caver's best friend.

We often used to carry them, because of the high calorie content and samll size and weight of each meal, when we were doing cave mapping or other scientific studies in large cave systems, that required us to be underground for more than 8 hours. They did not require water, or heating to eat them. And to be honest, many of the foods were not tasty, and were texturally better if water was added or if they were heated.

The IMP's the Caqnadian cavers carried were somewhat different than the MRE's that American cavers carried, in terms of the menu choices. But I must assume that Hinterland chose "MRE" over "IMP" for the game, because most Muricans would only think of the mythical, paranormal creature (imps). Either way, they are basically the same. MRE's were intended as Emergency rations, for surviving on for 30 days or less. But for the sake of game reality, they do make the most sense for long term survival suppliments to other foods found or harvested in the wilds.

A simple Google Search and I found this information on Canadian IMP's:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individual_Meal_Pack

The drink mixes... you can simply consume them for the calories they give, but I'll be honest, it was not "pleasant". Like swimmers consuming packets of Jello before competitions, to get the sugar and calories without the added weight of the water. And downing a dry packet of instant coffee... that stuck with you. You really wanted water to wash it down. Which we have unlimited supplies of in the game. BTW, the packets of dry Tang mix were the WORST. But they gave a sugar and electrolyte boost. A very Tangy one. >.<
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EN16M471C Aug 7, 2016 @ 2:14pm 
Oh what a nice post I Fart In Your General Direction! Thx for sharing your experience with us :)
IFIYGD Aug 7, 2016 @ 2:22pm 
Originally posted by EN16M471C:
Oh what a nice post I Fart In Your General Direction! Thx for sharing your experience with us :)

Lol! Most welcome. And thinking about it more, I recall those crazy Canadians mixing the drink mix packets in with their wet foods. Spaghetti... with Tang mixed in. I could never bring myself to do that. xD
J!NX Aug 7, 2016 @ 5:21pm 
Beef Stew with instant coffe and cracker xD

Glorious MIX!
Last edited by J!NX; Aug 7, 2016 @ 5:26pm
Thutmosis Aug 8, 2016 @ 6:23am 
Digestion also requires water ... that's why most Survival Manuals tell you "NEVER eat without having water ..."
GlassDeviant Aug 8, 2016 @ 6:54am 
Soylent + Nescafe + water, all you need.

(Soylent being a modern product, not the Soylent Green from the old movie).
Bomoo Aug 8, 2016 @ 7:07am 
Originally posted by I Fart In Your General Direction:
Originally posted by EN16M471C:
Oh what a nice post I Fart In Your General Direction! Thx for sharing your experience with us :)

Lol! Most welcome. And thinking about it more, I recall those crazy Canadians mixing the drink mix packets in with their wet foods. Spaghetti... with Tang mixed in. I could never bring myself to do that. xD

That's one way to cause the Italian expedition members to go on a murderous rampage.
spatulaodoom Aug 8, 2016 @ 9:44am 
For the record Canadian IMP's are generally considered significantly better than American MRE's even though many of the components are made by the same companies.

There's a whole ration trading economy that springs up with ration packs whenever militaries from other countries spend time around eachother (Joint exercises, UN functions, deployment). Apparently the French ration packs are pretty much the best.
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