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Arrow glitch? And why can't we forge arrowheads (at workbench) anymore?
I dropped my only arrow in a cave in Ravine and it's just floating in the air and I can't get it back!?

Also, is there a place for us to recommend changes to the game to Hinterland? I'm pretty new to the game but I just realized that we used to be able to forge arrow heads at the work bench and now we have to do it at DP? It's so horrible! Arrows are harder to get than bullets now!

Sorry for the rant, but takes days if not weeks to get arrow heads alone! First have to travel to a mine to get coal, then travel to DP, then travel back and make arrows ... like what the hell lol. Seems more reasonable for bullet crafting given the amount of work, or please add a furnance in each region or something!
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ajb1978 Jun 1, 2016 @ 12:10am 
Any time you find a broken arrow or an intact arrow, you're good. I've been able to find about 10 (probably more but I haven't kept track) arrowheads just through scrounging. By scavenging arrowheads and feathers from broken arrows, and rebuilding them with fresh arrow shafts, you should be good. If you really need to craft more arrowheads, then yes you can do so in Desolation Point. But I haven't needed to do so. If you make a point to retrieve your arrows after every shot, you can keep reusing them and eventually rebuilding them until you run out of arrow shafts. Shafts are made from green birch saplings, which are a finite resource, so eventually you will run out. But strategic resource management will make that a very far off danger.
iwasa Jun 1, 2016 @ 12:41am 
You can post a suggestion on the wish list.

I have thought that an improvised arrow which cannot be harvested for components would be a viable way to introduce more arrows at the cost of more resources to make them and an interim source until the player goes to DP. I have also thought that since ML is a recreation and hunting area it is not reasonable that we can't find a small pack of arrows or arrowheads at one or more locations. Right now it is 2 arrows at the dam and generally only the occasional spawn of an arrow at a deer corpse.

But this is all at the discretion of the devs.
PBR Jun 1, 2016 @ 4:45am 
Originally posted by lcsu12:
I dropped my only arrow in a cave in Ravine and it's just floating in the air and I can't get it back!?

Also, is there a place for us to recommend changes to the game to Hinterland? I'm pretty new to the game but I just realized that we used to be able to forge arrow heads at the work bench and now we have to do it at DP? It's so horrible! Arrows are harder to get than bullets now!

Sorry for the rant, but takes days if not weeks to get arrow heads alone! First have to travel to a mine to get coal, then travel to DP, then travel back and make arrows ... like what the hell lol. Seems more reasonable for bullet crafting given the amount of work, or please add a furnance in each region or something!
When could we create Arrowheads at a Workbench? Because I'm pretty sure that isn't a thing. You can make Fish Hooks at a Bench, and create new Arrows as well. Not Arrow Heads. Go to DP, make 50 Arrow Heads, pack them out.
Unless you need to arm an army with arrows, you don't need that many anyways. One arrow lasts you like what a month? Just make it a habit to use them efficiently (always get them back from where you shot em, always take care of them, repair them and stuff)

If you run out of all the arrows you crafted, then the journey is on, collect some metal pieces (which are abundent) and then travel to desolation point. It's not that hard or dangerous if you know your route and are prepared. Then craft maybe 10 arrows while you're there and then get out. Or live there. You're set for like a year.

I always die of something else other than running out of arrows. Arrows are not a problem. Plus it wouldn't really pose a challenge if they were quite easy to get now would it? I like the way it is.
Excorpion Jun 1, 2016 @ 6:01am 
Originally posted by JeebusChrist:
When could we create Arrowheads at a Workbench? Because I'm pretty sure that isn't a thing. You can make Fish Hooks at a Bench, and create new Arrows as well. Not Arrow Heads. Go to DP, make 50 Arrow Heads, pack them out.
In the past (before Desolation Point Update) you can make arrowheads at the workbench from scrap metal...
But this is too easy for one of the best weapons ingame...

About the thread... yeah is kinda freaking anoying... but thats cause you can get the rifle easily first... and a ton of bullets from everywhere.
As i said, the Bow and arrows is the est weapon ingame for now (lie, maybe the distress pistol)... but we are talking about long plays...
when you think that, if you start in ML then you go to CH, and then to DP to make arrowheaads, even if you are just trying to just go for it.. you can get 20 bullets easily and maybe, cross almost 10 spawn points of the rifle.
Melvar46 Jun 1, 2016 @ 10:48am 
I remember being pissed off when they changed the arrowheads from any workbench to only at the Riken. Looking back now though it was just too easy to craft them whenever and made the bow a bit op. DP is a good zone so it's kinda nice to go there to get tooled up, although i know others just want to get out as quick as they can. While your there you can make a few knifes and hatchets also.

I just got back to the Farmstead with 150 arrowheads and i have 47 birch sapplings here and 14 maples ready to go, i haven't been to TWM yet so theres still some more to find but theres no shortage of arrows in the game. I plan/hope on leaving a new bow and 25 arrows at each of my homes across the different zones, like ive already done with the crafted clothes and bedroll in each location.

They're easy to make and its worth a look around Desolation Point, you might even get to meet Scruffy too.
NoviceClimber Jun 1, 2016 @ 1:29pm 
Originally posted by Melvar46:
I remember being pissed off when they changed the arrowheads from any workbench to only at the Riken. Looking back now though it was just too easy to craft them whenever and made the bow a bit op. DP is a good zone so it's kinda nice to go there to get tooled up, although i know others just want to get out as quick as they can. While your there you can make a few knifes and hatchets also.

I just got back to the Farmstead with 150 arrowheads and i have 47 birch sapplings here and 14 maples ready to go, i haven't been to TWM yet so theres still some more to find but theres no shortage of arrows in the game. I plan/hope on leaving a new bow and 25 arrows at each of my homes across the different zones, like ive already done with the crafted clothes and bedroll in each location.

They're easy to make and its worth a look around Desolation Point, you might even get to meet Scruffy too.

Hahah 150 arrowheads that's crazy! You made them all at the Riken? If so, how did you acquire so much coal in the first place? How much scrap metal did you carry to DP? And how many days did it take you to forge all those arrows?
Excorpion Jun 1, 2016 @ 1:31pm 
Originally posted by lcsu12:
Hahah 150 arrowheads that's crazy! You made them all at the Riken? If so, how did you acquire so much coal in the first place? How much scrap metal did you carry to DP? And how many days did it take you to forge all those arrows?
Coal is unlimited cause it can respawn... and there are mines nearby.
3 arrowheads x 1 scrap metal ? = 50 of scrap metal
ajb1978 Jun 1, 2016 @ 1:45pm 
Originally posted by ExCoRpIoN:
Coal is unlimited cause it can respawn... and there are mines nearby.

And also the order in which you add your fuel can make that coal more efficient. Coal is the only fuel that pushes a fire over 80C, so use regular wood to get it to 80C first, then add your coal. Once the fire is up to the proper temp, return to using regular wood to maintain that temp as long as you need.
Excorpion Jun 1, 2016 @ 1:49pm 
Originally posted by ajb1978:
And also the order in which you add your fuel can make that coal more efficient. Coal is the only fuel that pushes a fire over 80C, so use regular wood to get it to 80C first, then add your coal. Once the fire is up to the proper temp, return to using regular wood to maintain that temp as long as you need.
I need to say too that coal needs a fire of over 25 min. before that you cant add coal...
Also, you cant start a fire with coal...
iwasa Jun 2, 2016 @ 1:53am 
150 arrowheads is 75 scrap metal and takes 75 hours to forge. The Hibernia whaling station has lots of things to tear apart to make scrap metal as does the Riken. Coal and wood to stoke the furnace may take more effort and time to accumulate but there is lots of wood limbs around and I do not recall seeing the furnace fire temperature going down as presumably the coal pieces get consumed. I do not know what the respawn time for coal is though.
umpisusi Jun 2, 2016 @ 2:46am 
I usually just rely on found arrows and arrowheads. I've never needed more than 4 arrows at a time, and I usually hunt with only 2-3 arrows on me. Initially I too went to DP and crafted a dozen or so arrowheads, but then I realized there is no point, since the heads don't degrade. You can easily survive 100+ days with just 4-5 arrowheads.
ajb1978 Jun 2, 2016 @ 5:38pm 
Originally posted by ExCoRpIoN:
Originally posted by ajb1978:
And also the order in which you add your fuel can make that coal more efficient. Coal is the only fuel that pushes a fire over 80C, so use regular wood to get it to 80C first, then add your coal. Once the fire is up to the proper temp, return to using regular wood to maintain that temp as long as you need.
I need to say too that coal needs a fire of over 25 min. before that you cant add coal...
Also, you cant start a fire with coal...

True. I will add wood to get it to 80C, then boil some water or cook something to pass the time in a productive way. Then add coal to raise it to 160, then add wood if I need more duration. Technically you only need a temp of 150, but coal raises temp by 20C per rock, so....160 it is!
Last edited by ajb1978; Jun 2, 2016 @ 5:39pm
Melvar46 Jun 4, 2016 @ 9:35am 
Originally posted by lcsu12:
Hahah 150 arrowheads that's crazy! You made them all at the Riken? If so, how did you acquire so much coal in the first place? How much scrap metal did you carry to DP? And how many days did it take you to forge all those arrows?

Each time i pass through a mine i collect the ore then dump it in a container/floor at the entrance or exit on my way out. After a few days it will all respawn so i do the same again on my way back through.
The hardest part was carting it all back to the Riken but it can be done in a few days. I found it was faster to come down the mountaineers rope at the entrance to DP as you can walk faster on the road opposed to the main path in the snow.

For scrap metal i pillaged the trailers surrounding Hibernia processing. I've left the plant untouched so theres lots more scrap there if i need to make more. After collecting lots of wood i spent around a week at DP and i think around 3 days at the forge.

150 arrowheads is complete overkill but they do have a tendency to disappear so i wanted plenty stashed away at each zone for when i need them. I was also lucky to collect 200 feathers from the murder of crows that used to glitch at the deer corpse in clearcut pre patch. Remember to take some cloth with you if you want to forge the knives and hatchets while your there.
Bomoo Jun 4, 2016 @ 10:42am 
Originally posted by JeebusChrist:
When could we create Arrowheads at a Workbench?

Once upon a time prior to the introduction of DP as a zone.

You really don't need THAT many arrowheads, OP. Once you have 2-3, you should be okay. Even just one is enough for fighting charging wolves. Unlike arrow shafts and feathers, they are infinitely reusable. The trouble comes from glitchiness that causes arrows to disappear. Should be smooth sailing once that is fixed.

Remember that we are not playing a finished game but helping bang on an alpha, so balance is not going to be perfect, and you're going to need to suffer some inconveniences, like arrowhead losses much higher than a hypothetical LD without that glitch.
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