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Icyma Oct 10, 2022 @ 10:13am
Bearskin Coat vs Bearskin Bedroll (Interloper)
I'm undecided between these two. Is it worth making a coat out of bear skin or a bedroll ?Waiting for your suggestions
Last edited by Icyma; Oct 10, 2022 @ 10:18am
Originally posted by Ridan Krad:
I don't bother with the bearskin bedroll for several reasons:

1. It weighs three times as much. The standard is just 1kg; the bearskin is 3kg.

2. Unless the wiki is out of date, the bearskin bedroll decays significantly faster. Long term, this will mean a greater drain on resources, both cloth and bearskin.

3. Like with clothing, a bedroll's warmth is affected by condition. At 100%, the bearskin bedroll gives +12C when used. At 50%, however, it gives only +6C. No matter the condition, the weight remains the same. Because bearskins are harder to come by, and because its decay is accelerated, it may be difficult to even enjoy the bearskin bedroll's full benefit most of the time.

4. Most of the time, the bearskin isn't even necessary. With good clothing, two layer caves provide enough warmth in the back layer to keep warm even on loper and even during most blizzards. In a few rare cases, I started to get cold during a blizzard in early morning hours, but only marginally (net -1C or -2C) and it warmed back up before I started to freeze.

5. A bearskin coat, unlike the bedroll, gives the player a benefit all of the time instead of just some of the time.
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Ridan Krad Oct 10, 2022 @ 12:59pm 
I don't bother with the bearskin bedroll for several reasons:

1. It weighs three times as much. The standard is just 1kg; the bearskin is 3kg.

2. Unless the wiki is out of date, the bearskin bedroll decays significantly faster. Long term, this will mean a greater drain on resources, both cloth and bearskin.

3. Like with clothing, a bedroll's warmth is affected by condition. At 100%, the bearskin bedroll gives +12C when used. At 50%, however, it gives only +6C. No matter the condition, the weight remains the same. Because bearskins are harder to come by, and because its decay is accelerated, it may be difficult to even enjoy the bearskin bedroll's full benefit most of the time.

4. Most of the time, the bearskin isn't even necessary. With good clothing, two layer caves provide enough warmth in the back layer to keep warm even on loper and even during most blizzards. In a few rare cases, I started to get cold during a blizzard in early morning hours, but only marginally (net -1C or -2C) and it warmed back up before I started to freeze.

5. A bearskin coat, unlike the bedroll, gives the player a benefit all of the time instead of just some of the time.
MadBone12 Oct 10, 2022 @ 1:47pm 
I personally love the bearskin bedroll. Since I play with passive wildlife but interloper weather, for me it makes sense to make the bedroll and ignore the coat. I spend a lot of time in the outdoor maps, including sleeping in locations that are not warm. I also regularly hunt bears and currently have about 20 bearskins (possibly more) in storage, so I don't need to worry about not having the resources to repair it (I also beachcomb regularly and find more cloth than I use).

What is better is going to depend on your difficulty settings and playstyle. Since it is interloper, the suggestions of coat then bedroll is probably the best way to play. It also apparently helps with wolf fear as well, so that is the added bonus of the bearskin coat.
MadBone12 Oct 10, 2022 @ 1:54pm 
Originally posted by vinyblaster:
I *think* that the bedroll also have a chance of scaring wolves.

Yes, I actually felt like I had read that somewhere and then dismissed the thought as I felt that it didn't really make sense since it is in your backpack. Maybe it's tied on the outside or something, so the wolves can see it!
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MadBone12 Oct 10, 2022 @ 10:34pm 
Originally posted by JayXL:
Of course, as Madbone mentioned, this all depends on game mode. :coffeeTLD:

Yep and also how people choose to play. Technically, people are right - you seldom really NEED the bearskin bedroll since you can almost always find a warm sleeping location with enough map knowledge. But I really like the option of riskier sleeping locations since I play such a nomadic character who roams constantly, often late into the night in outdoor regions - I find it fun and immersive to play that way, so for me, the bedroll makes sense even if I could get by without it if I really had to.

That's one thing I love about this game - the option to play in many different ways.
Pa Oct 11, 2022 @ 4:12pm 
Honestly, I'm not very sure since interloper is too difficult for me, but I'd say you should go for the bedroll if you don't live in Bleak Inlet and you have problems with cabin fever. You should get the coat if your biggest problem are wolves.
night0merchant Oct 11, 2022 @ 5:00pm 
I may be the lone wolf here in going for the bedroll. I mulled over this choice before, and decided that I'd like to have a moose-skin coat and bearskin bedroll combo. The reason is because I value the high protection stats of the moose skin 20% vs bearskin 15%, AND it impedes only half the mobility at -10% vs bearskin coat which is -20%. But this is stalker, I can afford to sacrifice warmth for protection and mobility.

In interloper I don't know if I'd still choose the same.
Ridan Krad Oct 11, 2022 @ 5:07pm 
Originally posted by night0merchant:
I may be the lone wolf here in going for the bedroll. I mulled over this choice before, and decided that I'd like to have a moose-skin coat and bearskin bedroll combo. The reason is because I value the high protection stats of the moose skin 20% vs bearskin 15%, AND it impedes only half the mobility at -10% vs bearskin coat which is -20%. But this is stalker, I can afford to sacrifice warmth for protection and mobility.

In interloper I don't know if I'd still choose the same.
I actually agree with you about the moose coat. The reason I value the bearskin coat is for its warmth. I use the bearskin coat as an inner layer and the moose coat as an outer layer.
night0merchant Oct 11, 2022 @ 5:23pm 
Ultimately, the definite way to answer OP's question is by asking: do you spend more time shivering while awake than asleep? If yes, then go for the coat, otherwise, go for the bedroll.

Also fun "anecdote?": I initially chose bearskin bedroll over regular bedroll because theoretically, bearskin bedroll is infinitely repairable whereas clothes are finite. Just keep killing bears. But I have since found out that practically there're so many clothes around, that concern is null. lol
Ridan Krad Oct 11, 2022 @ 5:31pm 
Originally posted by night0merchant:
Ultimately, the definite way to answer OP's question is by asking: do you spend more time shivering while awake than asleep? If yes, then go for the coat, otherwise, go for the bedroll.

Also fun "anecdote?": I initially chose bearskin bedroll over regular bedroll because theoretically, bearskin bedroll is infinitely repairable whereas clothes are finite. Just keep killing bears. But I have since found out that practically there're so many clothes around, that concern is null. lol
I considered the bear bedroll for that at one point, but unfortunately that doesn't really work out either. The bear bedroll actually takes a bearskin and a cloth to repair. And since it apparently decays faster too, it's not clear if it actually saves on cloth when you account for the higher number of repairs you'll need due to the faster decay.

Thankfully, cloth is technically renewable thanks to beachcombing.
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ralmdog90 Oct 11, 2022 @ 10:57pm 
bear coat definitely, I even go double bearskin coat and never worry about a bearskin bedroll.
Last edited by ralmdog90; Oct 11, 2022 @ 11:00pm
Pbaier5150 Oct 13, 2022 @ 7:05am 
Originally posted by night0merchant:
I may be the lone wolf here in going for the bedroll. I mulled over this choice before, and decided that I'd like to have a moose-skin coat and bearskin bedroll combo. The reason is because I value the high protection stats of the moose skin 20% vs bearskin 15%, AND it impedes only half the mobility at -10% vs bearskin coat which is -20%. But this is stalker, I can afford to sacrifice warmth for protection and mobility.

In interloper I don't know if I'd still choose the same.
I'm with you, but again I don't play loper either.

In all my runs I've only made a bear coat once, but I always make a bear bed roll because I put a high priority on sleeping outdoors as much as possible.

I did find a bear coat in AC once, and actually harvested it for a hide to repair my bear roll.

But again, since I have access to expidition parkas, the bear and wolf coat are unnecessary for me and my play style. I rock an expidition parka inner and moose coat outer to balance weight/warmth/protection.
WarpLover Mar 18, 2024 @ 11:20am 
Originally posted by night0merchant:
I may be the lone wolf here in going for the bedroll. I mulled over this choice before, and decided that I'd like to have a moose-skin coat and bearskin bedroll combo. The reason is because I value the high protection stats of the moose skin 20% vs bearskin 15%, AND it impedes only half the mobility at -10% vs bearskin coat which is -20%. But this is stalker, I can afford to sacrifice warmth for protection and mobility.

In interloper I don't know if I'd still choose the same.
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MadBone12 Mar 19, 2024 @ 4:55am 
Originally posted by bladerunner97:
My Loper is a convert to the Improvised Down Bedroll.

That's all.

Same (but not loper). I spend a lot of time in outdoor maps, even sleeping behind sheltered rocks or similar areas if I get stuck outside, so the bear bedroll was super helpful. However, for the weight to warmth ratio, the improvised down bedroll has become my favourite instead.
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