Ash Canyon Best Shelter?

[freezerman71]

I have currently made my way from TWM and now in AC. Found the Mine and have the goodies from there. But not sure if I should stay & explore or leave the region. Is the Angler’s Den the best place for a base? Thanks guys in advance.

[Nemonstrocity]

Цитата допису Halliwax:

Has anyone else noticed the wolves acting funny near Angler's Den? It's like they can't path right on the ice. There are places where they just stop chasing you, spaz out for a bit, then run away.

I'm wondering if the cause is a wolfskin coat. In TM they have taken offense to my stylish coat. While in ML, FM, BI, and AC they seem disturbed.

Or maybe it's the actively preying on them.

I even use rabbit snares to catch a rabbit then camp the sight waiting for a wolf.

[PowerOn]

Originally posted by Halliwax:
Has anyone else noticed the wolves acting funny near Angler's Den? It's like they can't path right on the ice. There are places where they just stop chasing you, spaz out for a bit, then run away.

Yes, even with meat are not able to attract these wolves for near Angler's Den, seems they meet a invisible wall, same happens with the wolves near the Broad Falls, when they go between trees at left. Interloper "vanilla" game.

[Nemonstrocity]

There is a invisible something there.
If I remember right you can find it by doing this;
Approach the cabin with it on your right walking about 5 feet from the shore line.
might be a tree that was not rendered.

[freezerman71]

I am going to have to restart because my survivor fell to his death 💀. I have both enjoyed and gotten totally PO at the same time with Ash Canyon. I thank all you guys for your comments and they have all been helpful. The weather as was pointed out in this thread is neither really good or bad but it’s totally inconsistent.

[wilky]

OK, I did it! ... I figured out how to goat up to Homesteader's Respite from the bottom. Four sprains to figure out the route, but probably only ~1 now that I know it. Basically you start sorta near the falls that are north/northwest of Bitter Marsh, and you keep walking across rock/cliff faces back in the direction of Homesteader's until you make it. When you get up to the level with Homesteader's, you're actually right next to the already-deployed rope that normally you would have to climb down (from the higher-up level with the snowshelter). Here's the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyfVZ-DRA1o

[PowerOn]

Цитата допису JayXL:

Цитата допису nextgengranny:

Regarding Homesteader's, apparently, it's possible to goat up to it, I assume where the debris field is. I've never tried it myself, though, as I had already made the trek & dropped a rope.

From what I hear, the goat path starts at the wall near the falls. I'm guessing you traverse over and up until you get to it. I don't think the debris area is climbable.

I tested and and is not need start the climb near the fall, but in a area clear of rocks, with snow, where is possible climb down from high level what save some sprains.

[Volunteer]

Цитата допису JayXL:

Anglers is pretty sweet and very central. Climber's Cave is a nice base too, nice and warm. I like to make my base at Homesteader's.. it's close to fishing and hunting, as well as one of the TWM exits.

This; and there is a moose spawn nearby.

[gimley]

Цитата допису Halliwax:

Has anyone else noticed the wolves acting funny near Angler's Den? It's like they can't path right on the ice. There are places where they just stop chasing you, spaz out for a bit, then run away.

Got attacked by an invisible wolf not to far away from Angler's Den. I think there is a glitch in this last patch. Heard him growl, looked around and backed up against a rock, then he just appeared on top of me, and disappeared again after the fight.

[Nemonstrocity]

Цитата допису darkSol:

I could see using Homesteaders for a stretch to build up fishing skill and stock up on meat, but the trek to "unlock" it probably isn't worth it if you're not playing to 100% explore, but mostly focusing on just the survival and progression. I think it works best as an emergency shelter if you find yourself stuck in a blizzard and need to get indoors, assuming you did get the rope set up.

I Haven't maxed my fishing skills yet, For that I think Mystery Lake might be a better location.
Close to the lodge with a work bench, multiple stoves, loads of wolves and even a bear.
The trick is to have enough firewood to harvest oil. Close enough to FM to stock some caches.

I don't think the wolf was "invisible" what I think happened is it was below the terrain.
I had one do the same in TWM near the cabin. it spawned on top of a rock and could not get down but kept running inside the rock depending on where I was. I managed to shoot it with an arrow. now there are crows circling the rock with no visible carcass.
I have also noticed that spent shells are dropping below the snow when the snow is on a rock, rooftop, or log.

[konzacelt]

I'm rethinking by preference for Climber's Cave. As much as I like having an "outdoor" shelter, the access is a bit of an issue.

It's great for getting to the high ground fast, and for general hunting. But if you want to fish, or are in the lower valley for whatever reason, it takes a long time (and several wolves) to get back to it. Too bad there's not a rope climb somewhere between it and Bitter Marsh, that would solve the access issue.

[Shelt]

Finally made it around to all the shelters, and Angler's is probably the best simply because the rest are so out of the way and have little resources (free sticks on the ground being the main one I look for). I like Foreman's Retreat but it's in a goofy spot, and the work table is a ways down the hill in Miner's Folly.

Homelanders Respite was a bitter disappointment after days of searching for it. No resources or work table without climbing up or down massive ropes. I hit it and forget it. Back to Timberwolf Mountain to farm rabbits, fish, cull wolfs, and hunt the occasional bear or moose.

[PowerOn]

Цитата допису konzacelt:

I'm rethinking by preference for Climber's Cave. As much as I like having an "outdoor" shelter, the access is a bit of an issue.

It's great for getting to the high ground fast, and for general hunting. But if you want to fish, or are in the lower valley for whatever reason, it takes a long time (and several wolves) to get back to it.

You can climb down ("goat") for Angler's Den going fro Climber's Cave in direction of the ropes for High Meadow and at left of the rope first follow a gap in the rocks.

Or, climb down the rope for the suspension bridge over Shattered Cove and at left, before the bridge "goat" down for bitter marsh, keep on the rock wall of the left side until the stream and then go for Fishing Hut, most time a free wolf path (Interloper).

The safe way to return for Climber's Cave is via High Meadow - 2 ropes up, 2 down.

Цитата допису JayXL:

As far as resources go, there's only deer, bunnies, wolves, fishing, and the occasional moose, all nearby to hunt. So, not much. :) Also, matches!

Curious, in my Stalker and several Interloper games I don't find Rabbits in Bitter Marsh, where do you find them?

[freezerman71]

I have made my way back to Ash Canyon from TWM but the game spawned me at the Deer Clearing so I went to the plane on the summit first. Now have plenty of good gear to survive in AC. My survivor has made it to the Anglers Den and will make a base there. Managed to bring pelts from the plane but now just have to cure the guts that i was able to collect on the way to AC.

Thanks @wilky for the video and I may give it a try but i am using a mouse & keyboard.

Цитата допису wilky:

OK, I did it! ... I figured out how to goat up to Homesteader's Respite from the bottom. Four sprains to figure out the route, but probably only ~1 now that I know it. Basically you start sorta near the falls that are north/northwest of Bitter Marsh, and you keep walking across rock/cliff faces back in the direction of Homesteader's until you make it. When you get up to the level with Homesteader's, you're actually right next to the already-deployed rope that normally you would have to climb down (from the higher-up level with the snowshelter). Here's the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyfVZ-DRA1o

[konzacelt]

Цитата допису PowerOn:

You can climb down ("goat") for Angler's Den going fro Climber's Cave in direction of the ropes for High Meadow and at left of the rope first follow a gap in the rocks.

Or, climb down the rope for the suspension bridge over Shattered Cove and at left, before the bridge "goat" down for bitter marsh, keep on the rock wall of the left side until the stream and then go for Fishing Hut, most time a free wolf path (Interloper).

The safe way to return for Climber's Cave is via High Meadow - 2 ropes up, 2 down.

Yeah it's easy to get down from there, the getting up was what I was mostly talking about. Taking the Fire Overlook/High Meadow rope climb way is certainly safer in terms of wolves. But that's a heckuva lot of rope climbing, and almost as roundabout as walking the lower path.

What that area really needs is a single short rope climb from Bitter Marsh up to the Climber's Cave area. I'm guessing Hinterland didn't put one there on purpose to force you to take really long routes to get to it. Sometimes their map route designs are so transparently annoying, it's like you can tell they want you to be frustrated. I mean, if that were a real place someone would have put a rope there lol.

[PowerOn]

Цитата допису freezerman71:

Thanks @wilky for the video and I may give it a try but i am using a mouse & keyboard.

The method of control don't matter, I play with keyboard/mouse and have climb for H.Respite at least 4 times.