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Best weapon in a struggle?
What's the best weapon to have on you in a struggle with a wolf? Does it make a difference? It looks like the most effective weapon would be a knife because all you have to do it stick the critter in a vital spot whereas a hatchet you have to swing it more I would think.
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wilky Aug 28, 2020 @ 5:05pm 
From the wiki:

Desperation (Unarmed): Medium attack speed, very low damage per attack. Likely to result in a player loss on Stalker and Interloper, and/or if Fatigue is below half.

Hunting knife (or Improvised knife, Scrap metal shard): Fast attack speed, low damage per attack, 100% chance to apply Blood loss to Wolf if struggle is won.

Hatchet (or Improvised hatchet): Medium attack speed, high damage per attack, 90% chance to apply Blood loss to Wolf if struggle is won.

Prybar: Medium attack speed, medium damage per attack.

Heavy hammer Slow attack speed, high damage per attack. 15% chance to scare Wolf off immediately per attack, 5% chance to kill wolf instantly per attack.

Revolver: Medium attack speed, low damage per attack (increases with Revolver Survival skills). After 3 seconds of Wolf Struggle, the 'Take Shot' option becomes available (if the Revolver is loaded), which if used by right-clicking will end the struggle immediately and consume one Revolver ammunition by frightening the wolf, with a chance to apply Blood loss to the wolf, or kill it instantly.

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tl;dr -- The hatchet does the most damage to the wolf (greatest chance to kill it/bleed to death) but the heavy hammer may scare the wolf off quicker. I believe I have seen loper players mention they prefer the heavy hammer(?)
FRANKDREBIN Aug 28, 2020 @ 5:11pm 
I deffo goes for the hatchet. Saves your clothes and you from bleeding most of time. Knife may kill the wolf but I can suffer a bit more before that happens. And NEVER AGAIN I´ll use the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ revolver because I lost a 130+ save struggling with it.
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Gary Childress Aug 29, 2020 @ 4:49pm 
Originally posted by customhitcher1:
A very sharp hatchet- hand axe. It does cause wolf deadly injurys most times and saves you from much damage. You will need to look for them after they die ? Or you can follow them till they die. All wolves I've fought with the hatchet have died. Finding them after? Not so good for me. Good luck.

So does the condition of the weapon factor into how much damage you do to the wolf? For example, is a hatchet at 90% more likely to kill the wolf than a hatchet at 20%?

Thanks.
Li77lehorn Aug 29, 2020 @ 8:29pm 
Originally posted by Gary Childress:
Originally posted by customhitcher1:
A very sharp hatchet- hand axe. It does cause wolf deadly injurys most times and saves you from much damage. You will need to look for them after they die ? Or you can follow them till they die. All wolves I've fought with the hatchet have died. Finding them after? Not so good for me. Good luck.

So does the condition of the weapon factor into how much damage you do to the wolf? For example, is a hatchet at 90% more likely to kill the wolf than a hatchet at 20%?

Thanks.

I might also expand on your question cause I'm curious too.

Does the improvised hatchet do different damage than a regular hatchet? I've read the wiki and it says about the improvised being heavier and 1/3 slower. But I'm not sure about damage.

So since the improvised tools are better to craft with. Are the improvised tools better to struggle with?

*At the moment I'm on interloper and just use the hammer to try end struggles fast.
Li77lehorn Aug 30, 2020 @ 5:14am 
Originally posted by Tekel1959:
Originally posted by Li77lehorn:

I might also expand on your question cause I'm curious too.

Does the improvised hatchet do different damage than a regular hatchet? I've read the wiki and it says about the improvised being heavier and 1/3 slower. But I'm not sure about damage.

So since the improvised tools are better to craft with. Are the improvised tools better to struggle with?

*At the moment I'm on interloper and just use the hammer to try end struggles fast.
Improvised tools are NOT better to craft with. They take longer for pretty much everything.

No idea if or how much they bumped damage to compensate for lower speed, but if I had to guess, I would say less effective given the same struggle settings.

Well when I go to craft a Bearskin Coat for example, it say's in my game it'll take 60 hours with a Hunting Knife or 39 hours with an Improvised Knife. So it does appear that improvised tools are better to craft with. Looking at everything, they seem much faster to use when crafting.

That's why I'm wondering if there is a difference with them in struggles.
Ogre Aug 30, 2020 @ 6:55am 
There is a bug with how much time is displayed for crafting if you have multiple items to choose from. Drop everything except for the tool you want to use and it will show you a different time for crafting.

Improvised tools are not faster.
Li77lehorn Aug 30, 2020 @ 7:13am 
Originally posted by Ogre:
There is a bug with how much time is displayed for crafting if you have multiple items to choose from. Drop everything except for the tool you want to use and it will show you a different time for crafting.

Improvised tools are not faster.

Ah ok. Good to know I guess.

So I'll keep using the hammer for struggles. I was hoping maybe the improvised hatchet did more damage than the normal(then I might try it). But if all the crafting is actually worse and it's bugged, then fair to guess the hammer is better. (keeps me alive at least mostly)
ødiµm« Aug 30, 2020 @ 8:01am 
heavy hammer for loper, it gets them off you faster, you arent worried about the meat/pelt, just survival. anything below loper id go hatchet, more bleed damage
pickle Aug 30, 2020 @ 10:13am 
The best weapon against wolf struggles is not getting into one in the first place.

But if I have to choose, I'll take the hatchet over the hammer any day just because it's slightly lighter and has a better utility (e.g. can clear scrub bushes in HRV).
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