bears.

[bioxid]

how can a bear survive a head shot and a heart shot, then proceed to maul me to death (three times in a row cause it got stuck)

everything in this game is somewhat realistic, except the bulletsponge animals.

[mark]

A quick googling of real life incidents suggests that's not entirely unrealistic (and you can't be certain you hit the heart, or the head shot wasn't just a glancing blow). It's also realistic that a wounded bear goes ballistic and beats up on you.

But you didn't need to shoot twice. As long as the first shot leaves blood on the ground (not just a spatter from the animal in the air), it will bleed out over time. There are maybe a couple of bears in the game slightly bugged if you go into a building to wait for them to bleed out - but if you can get into a car, or onto a fallen tree or other place they can't reach, you can just wait.

[bioxid]

full story is : it was foggy and i ve stubbon the bear, he raised on his hinge legs, so, im pretty sure i hit the heart there, then he chargend (ofcourse...) and there i landed a point blank eye shot.

then, as i ve stated, it got bugged and was walking in place next to me, so in the time i was up again, he attacked a second time...

Then a third.

[MoOoOo]

I know your pain.....
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1445045401

[IFIYGD]

Originally posted by bioxid:

full story is : it was foggy and i ve stubbon the bear, he raised on his hinge legs, so, im pretty sure i hit the heart there, then he chargend (ofcourse...) and there i landed a point blank eye shot.

then, as i ve stated, it got bugged and was walking in place next to me, so in the time i was up again, he attacked a second time...

Then a third.

Consider yourself lucky. You had an odd chance to have a truly unique TLD experience.

Before the Resolute Outfitter update, which introduced "armour" protection values to the clothing in the game, any bear attack was pretty much an almost guaranteed 90% condition loss. You may have survived one mauling, you rarely survived a second, never a third, all in a row.

And if something like this ever happens again, please try to take an F8 debug screenshot of where the animal is stuck (it will have exact map co-ordinateds for the devs) and report the bug on the JIRA Bug Reporting Database website https://hinterlandgames.atlassian.net/projects/TLDP/issues
so the devs can look into getting the bug fixed. Let them know your system specs, describe the issue, and what game mode you are playing (Survival, Challenges, or Wintermute).Reporting it properly will help the small Hinterland Tech Team get it fixed much more quickly.

Again, I think you are lucky to have had such a unique experience, even though I also understand how frustrating it can be to lose a run to a bug. I have never survived 2 bear maulings in a row, let alone 3. You got yourself a great story, one that hopefully never happens again, lol!

[markwars]

Wow, I've survived a double mauling before - it left me at 1%. You must have been wearing full plate mail on that one. Grtz for getting that far. Sorry for the bug though.

[KillWonder]

Yea bears are unrealisticly overpowered. They should rebalance that. Nothing on this earth can withstand several bullets in the head and still be able to charge for an attack.

[IFIYGD]

Originally posted by KillWonder:

Yea bears are unrealisticly overpowered. They should rebalance that. Nothing on this earth can withstand several bullets in the head and still be able to charge for an attack.

Lol! It is a game. Not real life. I guess all of the zombie surival games need to remove and nerf all zombies, infecteds, zeds, undead, by any name, since... nothing on this earth can come back to undead-life.

It's a game, bears are OP for game balance reasons, just like the progression from Champion>Hero>Boss>Ultra Boss in an RPG/aRPG. Some things just hurt more than others. Bears and Moose would be those. Wolves would be the rabid Hero mobs. :)

[bioxid]

comparing the long dark to RPG, check.
still pointless tho.

make them overpowered, not bulletproof.
and dont get me started on mooses, i dont think a tank shell would suffice to bring it down.

[IFIYGD]

Originally posted by bioxid:

comparing the long dark to RPG, check.
still pointless tho.

make them overpowered, not bulletproof.
and dont get me started on mooses, i dont think a tank shell would suffice to bring it down.

TLD is at least partially an RPG- we are roleplaying. It is a game. RPG= RolePlayingGame. It is a sandbox RPG. As are other open-world sandbox survival/story/adventure games. It may be one of the first to not cuddle you and hold your hands like many others do, though.

Check.

Don't try to facetank bears. Or moose. Doing that is pointless.

They are difficult, to teach us that we are NOT at the top of the foodchain any longer. Mother Nature just hit us upside the head with a geomagnetic disaster.
They aren't bulletproof, or there would not be so many players curing bear pelts and moosehides right now, as I type this.
You are riled up because you have not yet learned how to hunt them , safely and effectively.

*shrugs*

[bioxid]

you are comparing TLD's bears to bosses in classical RPG, if you don't see a problem with that analogy, i can't do much for you.

how do you not facetank a bear that just appeared 10meters away?
do you just crouch waiting for death?
is it too much to ask from a somewhat logical and realistic game that a headshot through the eye should kill?

the last sentence tells me you havent even attempted to read previous posts.

[IFIYGD]

Originally posted by bioxid:

you are comparing TLD's bears to bosses in classical RPG, if you don't see a problem with that analogy, i can't do much for you.

how do you not facetank a bear that just appeared 10meters away?
do you just crouch waiting for death?
is it too much to ask from a somewhat logical and realistic game that a headshot through the eye should kill?

the last sentence tells me you havent even attempted to read previous posts.

I have read previous posts. And played the game for over 2400 hours on Steam and XBox One.
You do not see the similarity to an RPG or aRPG, I do. Fine. We are both right, and both wrong then.

You are still salty because you have not yet learned how to hunt and deal with them safely and efficiently.

The sound of crows harassing the bears is different than the crows circling corpses. Distinctly different. You eventually should/will leanr the difference between the 2, and know which one means you need to go the other way, NOW. Headshots are only effective if you actually hit the soft spot between the eye and the ear, and get lucky, and get a crit. (Kinda like how it is in RPG's/aRPG's... crits are random...). More effieiciet shots are neck/throat, between the shoulderblades, and chest. And you don't wait until the bear is on you to take the shot. Bears grunt, snuffle and have a distinctive footstep. Hear those, and there is a bear nearby. prepare to get on a flllen tree and line up a shot (or othe location the bear cannot reach you at), or get the heck out as quickly and quetly as possible, so Old Grumpy does not detect you. Learn were the bears spawn, and where they tend to wander/patrol. Don't go to those places without being prepared for a possible bear encounter.

You are in their world now. Learn to deal with that, and them. Again... if they were not able to be dealt with, killed or avoided, no one would live more than 3 days , in any mode, in this game, Ever. You just have not learned how to do it yet.it takes time. And practice. Sorry if this gets you bent out of shape, but it is how the game is. We all get sloppy and get caught off-guard at times. Not the game's fault if we slack off.

[mark]

Originally posted by bioxid:

how do you not facetank a bear that just appeared 10meters away?

Fog is incredibly dangerous in TLD, even without being in a bear area. The opportunity from this experience is not "why don't my shots kill a bear I walked right into" (and chances are, you were a bit panicked and the shots not quite as deadeye as you're describing), but to think about your survival strategy when it suddenly gets foggy.

IMHO, unless already at low condition and desperately need to find real shelter, stop moving. Find a rock to at least avoid windchill, light a fire if you can and wait. Stumbling around in fog will frequently get you into trouble.

[bioxid]

Originally posted by IFIYGD:

i got that critical part, and it is the main problem here, why should i have to rely on a possible unspecified and hidden critical hit chance? why is the eye not good, but in between the eyes works?
it is just arbitrary and void any skill requirement.

for some reasons, you seem to think i was out hunting bears and i ve failed miserably.
i don't really know why or where you got that idea.
thanks for the lecture on basic survival, but it wasnt needed.

[GamerGate is Right and Good]

Originally posted by bioxid:

for some reasons, you seem to think i was out hunting bears and i ve failed miserably.
i don't really know why or where you got that idea.

You mean, you weren't? Because that's exactly the impression I got.

I may only play on Stalker, but even I don't screw around with bears if I can avoid it. They're immune to decoys, incredibly hard to one shot whether with the bow or the rifle, and if they CAN get you after you hit them with an arrow or rifle round, they will.

Bears are dangerous. Git gud, or git salty.