Fire Starters : Problematic?

[Silent]

Hello,

I've survived for almost 60 days in Mystery Lake alone. I hunt to gain food and clothing and I fish to gain food and lamp fuel.

Before the 30 day mark, I used matches like there's no tomorrow. Lighting torches, extinguishing them and then lighting them again because I had over 100 matches. I didn't care if I use them. At day 50, I realised that matches were your lifeline. You use them for majority of your survival needs. Cooking, warmth, water and even natural medicine! So I started using them a little bit more wisely and counted them before going to bed just so that I could plan out how much I've used up. I cooked bulks of food and created bulks of water to save matches and fire starters.

I've currently looted all the buildings in mystery lake. I've explored majority of the area of the Map (I think I haven't discovered Northern Access only). So virtually, there are no more matches available throughout the map. If you're going to suggest to move to another map, I already have that sorted and I already have a plan to move once I reach a number of matches left.

Running out of lootable matches or any fire starters (includes magnifying glass and firestarters) in one area of TLD got me thinking... Imagine a scenario where you've played TLD for SO long. You got a pattern for your survival going that you've actually managed to loot ALL available fire sources and used ALL of them.

Is that the game over state?
Does the game keep going?
Do you have to eat RAW food?
Where will you get water?

I'm just wondering what types of firestarters are there and are there renewable fire starters in the game at the moment? It's kind of worrying that I have to migrate to Coastal highway just because I've ran out of matches in Mystery Lake.

[sockpuppet12421]

The mag glass is eternal, light fires outside and bring lit brands indoors to light fires.

[Brock]

Also are you aware of the firestriker? Often tricky to spot when you're searching, they tend to be laying in shadowy corners. They do degrade with each use but will start a lot of fires for you. On my current run I've found a magnifying glass and a firestriker in Mystery Lake.

[Silent]

I've used matches (cardboard and wood), firesstriker, mag glass, torches to light my fires. What would happen if the entire map runs out of fire starters? Is that game over?

or do we have an option to no longer need fire starters (just like tinder is option when fire starting skill is at level 3)

[[Vault13] rauc0ne]

the magnifying glass can be used to start fires when theres clear blue sky. it doesnt degrade.

[ccwylde70]

At some point, if you lived long enough, you'd get to a point where all you had left for making fire would be your magnifying glass. At that point, you'd have to plan to stock up on wood and frozen raw foods and then mass cook & make plenty of water on those rare days when the sun was shining. It'd be a good idea to make plenty of extra water on each of those days, b/c you might go 4 or 5 days w/o one solitary hint of sunshine peeping through to aid you. Even if you ventured outside every hour on the hour each day, hoping to get a glimpse of that fiery devil :p

[Silent]

Ah alright, that makes sense. I thought the magnifying glass degrades every use. Thanks for the tip.

[Claus]

i still want natural fire starters, i absolute despise materialism and in one of the reason why i like surviving on my own, but this game is many ways is harder than actual rl.

In rl you have a lot more options for making fire, tinder is pretty easy to get in most forests of the world, if not torn up bark , feathers, sticks, dry grass, pine needles, punk wood, cattail both leaves and fluff and cotton if you're fortunate to have that.

Even in harsh winters you are likely to find atleast one type.

Fire starters can be pistons, flint and steel, bow drill, magnesium block fire starter, spark-lite, blastmatch, firesteel.

I think they should start implenting these things instead of the damn one time playthrough story, i want to see survival completely independent of materials and only using natural resources to survive, this is the future of this game.

[SBlack]

Why the thread necromancy? Please don't do that

[Claus]

Because we still have no optons for friction fires on interloper, it's funny how they placed a warning message not to use the game as an example on how to survive because if you look for matches during a blizzard you are in trouble.

Why not implement friction fires instead of having to look for flares and matches, it's not realistic in any way and i play this game mostly for realism.

i want to see this happening on interloper, it's better to necro than to make tons of new threads.

[IFIYGD]

Originally posted by JayXL:

I'm just amazed he found this TBH, with Steam's odd search function being what it is.

You can switch keywords around and refresh the search, or if this came up as the oldest thread regarding fire starting methods (with no mention of a request for anything new until now, with the necro...), necro it and add a post that should be added to a thread about adding new fire starting methods in the Wish List subforum, which has many, many, much more recent threads on that very subject.

And it is amazing how Google searches can find the oldest threads on a subject on a Steam forum, to keep necromancers happy.

[SBlack]

Originally posted by Claus:

Because we still have no optons for friction fires on interloper,

They aren't needed. There are many matches to find, plus three firestrikers, and you just don't need that many. And in any case it's not a reason in any way to resurrect such old threads

[Seaside]

I agree , there should be friction fire option. Perhaps when you reach a certain level or read a certain book.

[rhwilson1953]

Saying that friction fire starters are not in the game is simply not true.

The firestrikers are friction type fire starters as well as matches. Wood matches, also known as strike-anywhere matches can be lit by striking against a brick, concrete, stone, side of a stove, rusty iron, the zipper of your fly or jacket, denim jeans or dried leather.

IRL, it's hard to find a good strike-anywhere match, thanks to homeland security telling manufacturers they had to quit making matches with phosphorous on the tip of the head.

[ccwylde70]

I don't truly understand the necromancy hate - yeah, I just got 8 notifications all tied to this post, which I left a comment on years ago, but, hey, if I don't want to see anymore about this thread, I can just unsubscribe myself and no harm done. Plus, for every person who grouses about someone necro'ing a thread, there's usually two or more people grouching if they make a new one, eager to point out "That's already been discussed in at least five other threads, why didn't you do a search before posting?!?!" So you're not going to please everyone no matter how you slice it. Now, if they'd already added the feature he came here to argue for between the time the thread was created and now, by all means, /eyeball roll away about blatant necro thread abuse, but I don't see that going on here.

[FluffyGuy]

thats why i have my master firestarter badge