Inner Vs Outer Layers

[CapAp]

I have read several different answers to this. What is the inner vs outer distinction? For torso, for example, it appears to me that I have two Outer slots (for coats) and two Inner slots (for shirts), as that's what they're named.

However, I have three coats, Will's Coat, Windbreaker, and Down Vest. The game will let me put any of them in Outer Slot #2, but only the Windbreaker or Will's Coat in Outer Slot #1. The Down Vest is also unable to be equipped as either Inner Slot.

So clearly there is some distinction beyond the listed "Outer/Inner" that the game is not telling me. What am I missing?

[mf187doubleg]

inner layer are the slots close to the body when you are looking on Will's image. Outer - the ones that are on the far right and far left. I think the naming in the game itself is wrong.

Play with filling the slots by using different clothing and you will see the difference in wind / protection % - only outer layer adds to wind / protection %. However all cloths add to temperature bonus. So it is better to have wind breakers as outer layer but protection matters too when fighting wolves!

for ex if you are using a moose satchel and earmuffs and you put earmuffs in left slot and moose satchel in right slot (external layer) you will have 1% of protection lower than if you switch these slots!

Hope it helps :)

[humblehome]

So only the outer layer helps with protection from animal bites? I always thought that both layers provided some protection.

[Mavrah]

The wiki should have more info on which articles can and can't be worn as inner and outer layers.
From experience, down vests fit over light coats to add another comfortable layer when out in the cold. Wearing it underneath a coat just makes the coat bulky and doesn't affect windchill.
Imagine a coat so big that you need two bears to make it. The bearskin coat, and certain other garments are too big to expect them to fit underneath another layer. There's probably some reason regarding balance, too.

[mf187doubleg]

Originally posted by humblehome:

So only the outer layer helps with protection from animal bites? I always thought that both layers provided some protection.

no. only outer. same for wind.

[CapAp]

Originally posted by Mavrah:

The wiki should have more info on which articles can and can't be worn as inner and outer layers.
From experience, down vests fit over light coats to add another comfortable layer when out in the cold. Wearing it underneath a coat just makes the coat bulky and doesn't affect windchill.
Imagine a coat so big that you need two bears to make it. The bearskin coat, and certain other garments are too big to expect them to fit underneath another layer. There's probably some reason regarding balance, too.

Then why is the Down Vest only equippable in the inner (closer to the body) slot?

[mf187doubleg]

Originally posted by CapAp:

Originally posted by Mavrah:

The wiki should have more info on which articles can and can't be worn as inner and outer layers.
From experience, down vests fit over light coats to add another comfortable layer when out in the cold. Wearing it underneath a coat just makes the coat bulky and doesn't affect windchill.
Imagine a coat so big that you need two bears to make it. The bearskin coat, and certain other garments are too big to expect them to fit underneath another layer. There's probably some reason regarding balance, too.

Then why is the Down Vest only equippable in the inner (closer to the body) slot?

I do not know :) Probably it is not designed to walk in such a cold outside and is counted as inner clothing :)

[Mavrah]

Originally posted by CapAp:

Originally posted by Mavrah:

The wiki should have more info on which articles can and can't be worn as inner and outer layers.
From experience, down vests fit over light coats to add another comfortable layer when out in the cold. Wearing it underneath a coat just makes the coat bulky and doesn't affect windchill.
Imagine a coat so big that you need two bears to make it. The bearskin coat, and certain other garments are too big to expect them to fit underneath another layer. There's probably some reason regarding balance, too.

Then why is the Down Vest only equippable in the inner (closer to the body) slot?

Oh? Strange... Didn't you say you couldn't equip it to the inner slot?

[CapAp]

Originally posted by Mavrah:

Originally posted by CapAp:

Then why is the Down Vest only equippable in the inner (closer to the body) slot?

Oh? Strange... Didn't you say you couldn't equip it to the inner slot?

Well, i was referring to what the game lables "Inner Layer", which is apparently more accurately "Shirt Layer".

[Mavrah]

Originally posted by CapAp:

Well, i was referring to what the game lables "Inner Layer", which is apparently more accurately "Shirt Layer".

Gotcha. The game doesn't really allow for an easy distinction. (I propose outer outer, inner outer, outer inner and inner inner - naw, that's stupid)
Anyway, I'm having trouble finding the wiki info I was referring to, and am surprised to hear the vest is only equipable to... that slot you're talking about.
It's bizzare, since I've only ever worn vests under jackets in a fancy dress choir. Maybe the next update will have cumberbunds and bowties as accessories.

[Gun Tech.]

Originally posted by humblehome:

So only the outer layer helps with protection from animal bites? I always thought that both layers provided some protection.

NOPE.

Feet, Hands, socks, underwear are easy. Just add all ya got.

The rest is not logical. You have to wear/remove and watch/memorize the meters. Warmth always adds, Sprint always subtracts, the others don't change.

And some can only be worn in specific slots (and separately, the Accessories, of course).

And shells put on the outside thwart protection, so the thought of thin light outer shell and warm layer does not apply like it does in real life. Making shells basically worthless unless you have nothing else. Unfortunately. You could use them for wind protection, but why, when the game just adds the temps but not Wind for the second slot?

Edit: correction. Something can be logical without having any connection to the real world. Clothing is unrealistic. Not illogical. I'm sure there's some very logical custom rule.