Non-fatal arrow hits in deer?

[numbertwopencil]

I've played TLD for a while but I think I'm missing something with bleed out times, or maybe the process has changed and I haven't noticed . . .

I shot two different deer with the bow, both times creating a splash of blood in the snow, and a trail of blood. The arrow glanced off of the first deer, the second deer galloped off with the arrow (in his neck, IIRC).. Both were shot in the open area in front of Trapper's. Both showed up as deer hits in the stats. Both hits at least seemed to be neck/head hits. However, neither deer bleed out. I was expecting both to bleed out in,oh, two to four hours, plus or minus. Neither deer showed up in the stats as dead. (Two hits in the stats, but no increase in deaths.)

I was thinking that a deer hit with an arrow that creates a splash of blood on the snow and a trail of droops always results in a death. Is that not true? I was thinking that only hoof hits that create a reaction but no spash in the snow or trail of drops were hits were the deer didn't bleed out. Did this change at some point and I missed it. Am I missing something here? I'm playing in Voyager (if that matters).

[lkandrb]

Until at least very recently, there have been sections of some maps (PV and CH in particular) where I always seemed to have a wounded animal that ran out of my sight just vanish from the map. The blood trail and/or tracks would end and the carcass and arrow would never be found. It used to be horrific in PV hunting bears. I could kill 5-6 and be lucky to find 1-2. I am limiting my plays to a single map now, so have no recent observations. Playing without forging makes losing an arrow quite painful. I have lost a couple wolves on ML this play, no carcass, no crows, never found an arrow rolling in the snow. If it becomes reproducible, I will report it.

[IFIYGD]

You can have grazing/glancing shots, on any animal but a rabbit. You'll see a small spray of blood, you may have some blood on the snow, and the animal will flee, and not die. You just gave them a "paper cut" with a badly aimed bullet or arrow. It's not terribly common, but it can hapen.

[Lenny Rat]

The first was a glancing blow, as noted by IFIGYD. Not fatal.

The second should be fatal...if the arrow remained in the Deer, and the deer did not bleed out, it is a bug. Report it in Technical Issues.

[bili00777]

Also dont be suprised if the wounded deer ran far away, it can happen...i once shoot a wolf at the farm in PV and found it later on the back track to signal tower (half way up the hill on the right side).
Also i think a wounded deer can be attacked by a wolf (thou that would leave a ravaged deer on the spot) and it can be redirected by a wolf also...
might also be a bug for sure but dont be to suprised if you find that deer close to the lookout tower :D

[IFIYGD]

Lol! Or look up for the carcass, instead of down. We have a bug, apparently, that had/has deer, at least, levitating after death. I may have seen one screentshot of a levitating moose as well, but I can't find it in the screenshots right now, it was posted a bit ago.

But... look up. Because: we all float down here, Georgie. ;)

[abonamente]

Had this happening to me a few times in different locations (mentioned it in another thread). Some 'animal disappearances' after shot I believe are a bug. But I was wondering myself whether the 'recovery' I witnessed sometimes after a good shot is a bug or a feature, because, as far as I can recollect, they seem to be associated with low level archery and the poor condition of the bow.

I say 'seem' because I took a long break in April and I cannot remember if that happened on high level archery (5, or even 4) before the break, but I do remember it happening on low levels. Both wolf and bear, for instance, in Desolation Point, level 3. The run I began this December it happened to me a few times already with wolves and bears in Clearcut (Mystery Lake) and a wolf at Old Spence Farm (Forlorn Muskeg). I am level 3 right now, and I used mostly low condition bow and/or arrows.

Either way, it doesn't bother me, because it seems to be happening randomly, and to me, random is good.

[{O|G} Erik the Red]

Lol, is there nothing worse than when you lose an arrow because it runs off in the animal you just shot? Like, damn, there goes dinner, but real grief and mourning for the arrow. You then have the hassle of trying to find it, and tracking in this game is limited; with footprints and blooddrops only lasting as long if your tailing it already. If you need to go in and warm up, forget about it... you're only as good to find it if you see or stumble upon it in the next three days. Even with crows, sometimes they may reveal where the corpses are, but sometimes they and corpses just aren't there.... even for looking all over tarnation in the region. And after 3 days when any corpses despawn if they were there, any hope of finding the arrow again is very, very slim.... it takes a miracle if you ever see it again.

[numbertwopencil]

Thanks!

Hmmmmm. Yes, I've had arrows stuck in deer (or wolves or bears) that run across the map and die. However, in the two cases above, my stats didn't change, i.e. I had maybe 5 deer kills before those two shots and then, 24 hours later, I had 5 deer kills. So, in short, I don't think the deer ran off and died. I feel reasonably sure I didn't mis-see the arrow in the deer (a few times) and it actually glanced off and landed somewhere fairly far away because that area is pretty straightfoward, just snow, and, nope, I didn't find the arrow. (I have, yes, had arrows glance off and land in a place where I didn't spot them for a while.)

So, in short, the first hit was a glancing blow, and some glancing blows (all?) don't cause deer to bleed out, but they can cause blood in the snow and blood tracks. (It was the presence of blood tracks that caused me to assume the deer would bleed out.)

The second hit though, hmmmmm, I _guess_ it was a bug. I don't see how it could be something else. If it happens again, I'll write it up.

[IFIYGD]

If you had actual blood tracks, more than just a s few splatters in/around the location the deer was shot at... I would report it as a bug. Glancing shots should not cause an actual trail that follows the fleeing animal. Just a little spot or spots around the spot where it was hit at.

The one with the arrow visibly sticking out of the deer sure as heck sounds like a bug.

Did you verify game file integrity yet, to make sure you have no borked files?

[draxthewickedone]

Originally posted by IFIYGD:

Lol! Or look up for the carcass, instead of down. We have a bug, apparently, that had/has deer, at least, levitating after death. I may have seen one screentshot of a levitating moose as well, but I can't find it in the screenshots right now, it was posted a bit ago.

But... look up. Because: we all float down here, Georgie. ;)

Thank you for reminding me with that reference. I was teenager when i read that book. I loved it very much. Just got nostalgic a bit. Lol

[draxthewickedone]

Originally posted by JayXL:

First movie was awful, new movie is alright, but I'll never forget the first time I read it. I was always a nerdy little Stephen King fan as a kid. First time I read The Stand (unedited!) was memorable as well.

Yeah, i was too. Remember reading books on classes, under-the-table in a literal manner.
I agree on the movies, awful and alright, in that order.

[numbertwopencil]

I didn't think to verify my game files. I just did and all is okay. Thanks for the suggestion.

As for blood tracks. Both hits created splashes of blood in the snow and both created tracks of blood. I followed both for a while but a storm was brewing before the first hit and was gaining steam by the time of the second hit and so the tracks eventually disappeared. They couldn't have been the same tracks, I don't think, since one was heading south and the other north. Both started close to the splash in the snow and both went the direction the deer took off.

Hmmmmm. I'll go back to Trapper's and try shooting some deer and see if it happens again. I should probably try to work my bow skills up a few levels anyway before running out of bullets and Trapper's is an okay place to shoot deer and rabbits.