Nomad challenge, weather conditions to extream.

[KERNOW]

I finnished the story mode at the weekend, and so proceeded to nomad challenge, Why is it everyday its blowing / snowing so hard you can't get out the starter house?

I made some deer skin boots and trousers but these seem like a pointless time sink by the time you walk to the river behind the starter house, there 15% wet that means by the time I get to the farm there going to have started to freeze, the only time its not blowing is in the middle of the night, and as you know you can't map out the area in low light conditions / night,

I chose the nomad challenge as the starter for the simple reason it was labled as the easiest of the challenges but atm its seeming impossible, when all I have been doing is walking around the starter building catching rabbits for the last 36 in game days,

So here I am stuck in a tree day 36 and no idiea what way is what.
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[IvantheFormidable]

In my experience, the weather in story mode is pretty tame compared to the weather in survival mode, and I'm fairly certain that the challenges are based around the survival mode instead of the story. How often are you checking the weather? I'm also playing nomad currently, and other than a two or three day period of terrible weather, I've been able to find time to travel between locations. Barring some sort of bug, I'd say that you have to find openings when the weather isn't bad and try to make it to your next location.

[KERNOW]

Originally posted by IvantheFormidable:

In my experience, the weather in story mode is pretty tame compared to the weather in survival mode, and I'm fairly certain that the challenges are based around the survival mode instead of the story. How often are you checking the weather? I'm also playing nomad currently, and other than a two or three day period of terrible weather, I've been able to find time to travel between locations. Barring some sort of bug, I'd say that you have to find openings when the weather isn't bad and try to make it to your next location.

I do a 3 hour cycle so if I wake @ dawn I'll pop my head out the door, and look at the weather my self as in house wind sounds do not marry up with with whats happening out side, Quite often its just snowing and with in 2 min's of walking a blizzard start's up out of no where, it goes from 0 mph to the pic above in less than 10 seconds,

After posting above I have just hit my 1st 2days of fair weather, out of 8, granted in the 8 there was a hour or 2 where I was able to get out to collect wood, and just that by the time I cut 2 limbs up its eigther too dark to carry on or another blizzard hits up again.

Its almost as if every action you preform rolls the RNG dice in the game's weather system.

[KERNOW]

Originally posted by Qossuth:

Originally posted by Fluffy unicorn:

by the time you walk to the river behind the starter house, there 15% wet that means by the time I get to the farm there going to have started to freeze

And? Yes? The problem with that is.....?

It's a game and I want to be able to do more than just jump in house for a real hour watching a black screen of the zipper, or the count down of the wasting time, timer. While once in a 30 min period being able to get out, stone a rabbit and chop 2 bits of wood before being forced back inside to rest / waste time again befor the next weather window opens tobe able to try to progress.

[EN16M471C]

If my memory serves me well, starting location is in Pleasant Valley? If it's still so then the weather you described is normal for that region. Pleasant Valley has the worst weather pattern of all reagions. Low temepratures with frequent blizzards.

My suggestion is just rush thru locations and go elsewhere because as you've experienced yourself, Pleasant Valley is anything BUT pleasant ;)

[Včelí medvídek]

Originally posted by EN16M471C:

If my memory serves me well, starting location is in Pleasant Valley? If it's still so then the weather you described is normal for that region. Pleasant Valley has the worst weather pattern of all reagions. Low temepratures with frequent blizzards.

My suggestion is just rush thru locations and go elswhere because as you've experienced yourself Pleasant Valley is anything BUT pleasant ;)

Hmm. I started my first survival game - choiced random map and stalker difficulty. Ofc it throwed me to PV:p I do not knwo if continue, I live about 6 days now btu I am mroe or less stuck on palce as my cloth has +5°C overall and rtemperature out varies from about -20°to -45°C.. So I barely make it outside for cook some water before hypothermia risk...

Thinking about trying some desperate escape to some warmer place, but no Idea about ways there, consider myself lucky I was able find some store and houses (sadly nto of them has fireplace inside which make my life way harder:/

[IvantheFormidable]

Originally posted by Gecko-GER:

Really? Nomad is the easiest challenge set in pilgrim conditions (AFAIR), did Hinterland change the setting of Nomad?

Wolves are aggressive in my nomad game, so it's not pilgrim, as far as I know.

[Nanc]

imo, 'WhiteOut' is the easiest. You've got 30 days to collect food and items in Coastal Hwy. Nomad is hard for new players b/c they just don't know the regions well enough yet.
*please try *not* to use any pre-made maps; that takes all the fun out of exploring.

[SBlack]

Originally posted by Nanc:

imo, 'WhiteOut' is the easiest.

It's easier than it sounds, but bullets can be an issue. You'll have to make a circuit through PV and ML for them

[Včelí medvídek]

Originally posted by micah6vs8:

Keep plugging away Fluffy unicorn. You are on the steep TLD learning curve. There are ways and means to handle your situation. You hopefully will discover them.

Got supid death after all. In desperation I grabed all my stuff and continued the road while weather was "only" about -15°C feeling. At very low condition I found big farm with house and barn. There was few rabbits running around the place.

I stoned 2 and grabed them. Feeled realy good as I expected I find some new cloth soon, probably new shelte and things get better. Had very high hypothermia risk though and noted a wolf so I entered barn first. Looked through found some stuff... Needed to spent some time for get my temperature up.

Decided harvest rabbits I jsut got to spend time.. but.. I did nto payed attention to my status... I had about 4l of water with me, but both my thirst and hunger went quickly to zero and as I was at low condition already I died.. skinning rabbit... With full warm house nearby...

Ok. Lesson learned.

Started second game, again random. I am at Milton. I knwo the area from story so went directly to city. In the house where Grey lady was I found rifle and 6 bullets.. like 10 min in game... Sounds almost as joke in comaprison:p

[KERNOW]

Originally posted by EN16M471C:

If my memory serves me well, starting location is in Pleasant Valley? If it's still so then the weather you described is normal for that region. Pleasant Valley has the worst weather pattern of all reagions. Low temepratures with frequent blizzards.

My suggestion is just rush thru locations and go elsewhere because as you've experienced yourself, Pleasant Valley is anything BUT pleasant ;)

So I'am not going insain then, ----- well maybe a little. I've just in the last hour worked out how to get to to a mountain and it seems a little better but not much, I will take it over the vally any day.

Originally posted by micah6vs8:

Keep plugging away Fluffy unicorn. You are on the steep TLD learning curve. There are ways and means to handle your situation. You hopefully will discover them.

I wouldn't say its a hard curve tbh, its simple if not for the weather in that vally, I just don't understand how the difficulty works, I took this challenge right after story as it was rated at medium (3) and the lowest of challenge's god help me when I get to the rest, If this is anything to go by lol.

[KERNOW]

Originally posted by Qossuth:

Okay, I just started a Nomad Challenge. It had been a while. The level is no higher than Voyageur, may well be Pilgrim. I started at PV Farmhouse, assume that's the start every time? I should have stayed there for 3 days, etc., but to see how harsh it was I stripped off all my clothes and set out for Skeeter's Ridge, ect ect ect

So ok you didn't bother looking at the challenge at all, And you assume like your 1st post everyone should know the map, you went off with prior knoledge of the map (( with out even looking at it 1st )) assuming everyone knows it, You went to XYZ instead of going to ABC that a new player like my self would do,

And yes thats the starting area house, no you don't have to stay there for 3 days, Look at the map in the challenge ITS BLACK and you have to draw it in your self, So this challenge in my mind is exploring, IF like me you wander around looking for the other areas your meant to be staying at for 3 days. and find resource areas to sustain your toon in the given area's.

But like your 1st post you just talk down to me and others assuming, how there playing instead of asking how they play and advising from there. Here is how you find out how someone is playing while at the same time explaining in a non provocative way that the challenge shouldn't be any different to story mode.

Originally posted by IvantheFormidable:

In my experience, the weather in story mode is pretty tame compared to the weather in survival mode, and I'm fairly certain that the challenges are based around the survival mode instead of the story. How often are you checking the weather? I'm also playing nomad currently, and other than a two or three day period of terrible weather, I've been able to find time to travel between locations. Barring some sort of bug, I'd say that you have to find openings when the weather isn't bad and try to make it to your next location.

[KERNOW]

Originally posted by micah6vs8:

You have to move or die Fluffy. You are right that you are at A,B and C. - but you need to move towards D, E and F. If you spend some lives (it's just science) learning the next letters, then your path forward will be more clear.

I realize that, but when you don't know where D E F is and your locked down for days on end, with only time to get wood and food, As I said the game gods must have seen my post as I got a 2day window to explore a bit more and find another location / map.

This is my 3 attempt so far, and the RNG at the start are pole's apart, For example on my 1st play I found a gun some good clothing and plenty of ammo, I got frost bite by harvesting a bear to long didn't like it, so restarted, attempt 2 went south when I had someone come to the door and I didn't pause it lol and this play I didn't find a gun untill day 20 and so far only for 10 ammo, Iam now at day 44 and in some mountain area with a fishing pond rabbit's and deer but only 1 bullet left lol At least I have fish and guts on tap :D to get to that crashed plain at the top :D

[EN16M471C]

@Fluffy unicorn - I think you should drop Nomad for now. As you said it yourself this is a Challenge. You should explore regions first before diving into challenges. I think that's the main issue you're having.

Nomad challenge may verly well be the easiest but only if you know where you're going.

Story Mode is there to learn you gameplay mechanics. Survival Mode is there for you to explore regions. Challenges should (IMO) be considered as last thing you should try out.

[KERNOW]

Originally posted by Qossuth:

Dear Fluffy,

Sarcasm ignored.

Originally posted by Qossuth:

Why do you care if your clothes get completely wet and start to freeze, IF by the time that happens you're safe in a new shelter? And, continuing,

Look at the blizzard in my op that was my 8th day of encountering that in a row every time I set out in a slight snow flurry that happen'd. As you can see in 36 days I had been out in 16 blizzards and what seems like just as many cloud locks (Fog) Where that tree with a hollow come from I have no idiea as ive not found 1 since.....

Originally posted by Qossuth:

what happens if they do actually freeze and you're still trudging to your destination? Do you immediately die? No. Do you get Frostbite? No. Do you even get Frostbite Risk popping? No.

When you can't work out where your going how can you get there? immediately no but wondering around with 25ft visability is a sure way to have a long painfull death where you achive nothing....My only encounter with frost bite was as I said above, I was harvesting a bear after the animation I had the Frost bite risk pop up, and before I walked 50 ft to shelter I got frost bite. :( So from my experance it can come on pretty fast lol.

Originally posted by Qossuth:

I think you are bringing assumptions from real life into the game with you, rather than letting the game teach you what hurts you and how much and when and stuff like that. You can find some of this out by reading Forum posts or watching videos, but a lot of it is just going to have to come through experience, and likely dying when you go a bit too far over the line.

Yes your correct I do RP in this type of game it didn't help that I started on story and the main is called Will guess what my name is :D So the RP is real, It also dose not help that in game's like this I get OCD, So if I think I can do it better, using less materials but achiveing a better out come I will redo it lol, hense why it took me 50 hours to do the story 30 35 in the 1st chapter conserving supplys, Drying pelts, Only to find out I had to leave them all behind for Grey mother (cow)

Originally posted by Qossuth:

You clearly have figured out a lot of things in this game, how to get skins and guts and craft them into clothes, and especially how to reliably feed yourself over time. I think you are just letting fear control you and that's keeping you from exploring the PV map and then moving on to the others. Of course you can't be expected to know where all the locations are, but if you take your time and wait for good weather, you should be able to move forward with confidence and explore the entirety of each map and stumble over the locations you need to find.

I had explored the main road top to bottom at the time of the post the small 4 house town next to the bridge, and the radio station at the time of the op, but like I said above getting to explore was extream with the weather I was encountering, I guess RNG just wasn't in my favor at this point as I was at day 36 with half the map undiscovered beacuse of low light / snow storms stopping me from mapping out with charcoal.

Much better.

[KERNOW]

Originally posted by EN16M471C:

@Fluffy unicorn - I think you should drop Nomad for now. As you said it yourself this is a Challenge. You should explore regions first before diving into challenges. I think that's the main issue you're having.

Nomad challenge may verly well be the easiest but only if you know where you're going.

Story Mode is there to learn you gameplay mechanics. Survival Mode is there for you to explore regions. Challenges should (IMO) be considered as last thing you should try out.

If only I knew this a few days ago :D but I'am now in to deep and I will complete this 1 out of stubborness, The fact I had to work out what the hell charcoal was used for as its not used in the story mode at all and I think, the dev's are useing story as an entry into the game it should be used at the start, if only until you get past the 1st cave system so you know to collect it and use it, at least then you can transfer that knowledge over to the other parts of the game.

Unlike me on my 1st play of nomad who was walking around with a black map until I miss clicked take charcoal, clicked again and got a prompt you can not map inside lol.