Loper and the wood gathering issue

[Will]

Sooo, this is my bugbear right now. i have a bow and arrows, some skins, moose and wolf coat. I am still too cold to do very much outside, even gather anything more significant than sticks. I always use a great deal of wood harvesting carcasses so I wouldn't freeze, and usually don't have much wood left over for anything. Am trying to get deer skins for the other clothes so I can keep warmer, but the lack of wood is a real issue, so most of the time I freeze my ♥♥♥♥ off and take a massive hit to condition. How do you guys handle this?

Edit: I have a wolf and a deer sitting outside a hut, but if I harvest I will freeze

[jswilliams]

Early on you'll be tanking the cold. Obviously you must be very careful balancing all that out. But you have weapons, just no deer pants/boots.

Some advice. If you're going to hunt wolf, do a 2fer whenever possible. Those deer aren't doing anything useful with their hide, guts, and meat except breathing.

Okay, you have a deer and a wolf by a fish hut, so flip the script. Start a fire in the hut. Make water while you get warm again. Once warm, run out and spend 1h quartering animal 1. That's less than a 20% condition hit depending on the temp. Grab the meat and cook enough to warm back up. Leave the rest of the meat for later. Quarter second animal and then get to cooking in earnest. Be prepared to stay the night with a bedroll.

Alternately, which will take longer, harvest the animal in smaller parts so you're tanking the cold less...run back to the fire and cook or make 1L of water.

You've got to balance all this out with other predators, how far away base is, etc.

Don't get killed going back to base.

Early on, loads of indoor recwood harvested early morning with hammer or at night by hand is your BEST friend. Like bust a 1h or 2h chair or green crate in the dark by hand and bust up a Table with a Hammer after you wake up and it's frozen snot cold outside. Use this wood for long, sheltered fires.

[Valcus]

I usually make my way to Mystery lake where it's warmer until I've got all my clothes made. Plan hunts for the afternoons. Unless I really need the food I sometimes don't even bother with the meat or guts when it's too far from warmth. Just get the hide and live on cat tails, then get your guts from rabbits until you craft all your clothes. I've been a firm believer in 2 bear coats even before the moose satchel was added. I also haven't made a hatchet in forever. It's too cold to chop wood and it's too heavy. I just use sticks and coal, and carry the hacksaw when I'm looking for saplings. My 2 cents.

[Will]

Originally posted by jswilliams:

Early on you'll be tanking the cold. Obviously you must be very careful balancing all that out. But you have weapons, just no deer pants/boots.

Some advice. If you're going to hunt wolf, do a 2fer whenever possible. Those deer aren't doing anything useful with their hide, guts, and meat except breathing.

Okay, you have a deer and a wolf by a fish hut, so flip the script. Start a fire in the hut. Make water while you get warm again. Once warm, run out and spend 1h quartering animal 1. That's less than a 20% condition hit depending on the temp. Grab the meat and cook enough to warm back up. Leave the rest of the meat for later. Quarter second animal and then get to cooking in earnest. Be prepared to stay the night with a bedroll.

Alternately, which will take longer, harvest the animal in smaller parts so you're tanking the cold less...run back to the fire and cook or make 1L of water.

You've got to balance all this out with other predators, how far away base is, etc.

Don't get killed going back to base.

Early on, loads of indoor recwood harvested early morning with hammer or at night by hand is your BEST friend. Like bust a 1h or 2h chair or green crate in the dark by hand and bust up a Table with a Hammer after you wake up and it's frozen snot cold outside. Use this wood for long, sheltered fires.

Thanks mate this is great advice.

[Will]

Originally posted by Daxterr:

What about reclaimed wood or coal? What region are you in anyway?

I'm in CH.

[Will]

Originally posted by Valcus:

I usually make my way to Mystery lake where it's warmer until I've got all my clothes made. Plan hunts for the afternoons. Unless I really need the food I sometimes don't even bother with the meat or guts when it's too far from warmth. Just get the hide and live on cat tails, then get your guts from rabbits until you craft all your clothes. I've been a firm believer in 2 bear coats even before the moose satchel was added. I also haven't made a hatchet in forever. It's too cold to chop wood and it's too heavy. I just use sticks and coal, and carry the hacksaw when I'm looking for saplings. My 2 cents.

Thank you.

[[BKM]Harry]

its sticks and broken branches till you get some stuff together. Most days i seem to get a fair few hours in the afternoon early evening to gather sticks.

You dont need a fire every day. i usually only cook when i have 2 or three harvested animals, and water making fills the days where its either too cold or you have ample wood.
In CH if you get some coal from the mine and have a bedroll just spend a few days making water in a fishing hut, shoudl be able to get 40+ L of water in 2 days and then you dont have to worry about that for a while.

The only time i light a fire when harvesting is with a moose or a bear. Deer and wolf i usually take the condition hit, but only when "feels like" is 2 down arrows or less. harvesting frozen carcasses early on is difficult of course.

I only gather fir when there are no sticks or branches around, temperature is great and literally nothing else better to do.

[Will]

Originally posted by afropolak:

Originally posted by Will:

Sooo, this is my bugbear right now. i have a bow and arrows, some skins, moose and wolf coat. I am still too cold to do very much outside, even gather anything more significant than sticks. I always use a great deal of wood harvesting carcasses so I wouldn't freeze, and usually don't have much wood left over for anything. Am trying to get deer skins for the other clothes so I can keep warmer, but the lack of wood is a real issue, so most of the time I freeze my ♥♥♥♥ off and take a massive hit to condition. How do you guys handle this?

Edit: I have a wolf and a deer sitting outside a hut, but if I harvest I will freeze

You do know that You can do all that stuff nex to a warm and cozzy campfire Right?.

Make a Campfire next to two..three fallen tries and choop them in a +40 degrees conditions. Additional benefit : You are safe due to wolf reppelent fire.

You waste wood to get wood; quite a bit in fact.

[[BKM]Harry]

Originally posted by Crumpets:

Sticks sticks and more sticks.

Yes and the faster they are picked up the faster they respawn. no sense leaving a stick not picked up for a few days. On a fine day ~200 days into my interloper run i managed to pick up 120 sticks in one afternoon it was stick paradise wherever i went. I always seem to try and pick them up in the most time conscious manner. But i swear one always respawns behind me because i always have to go back a few paces to pick up another.

[Pestilence]

Originally posted by Will:

Sooo, this is my bugbear right now. i have a bow and arrows, some skins, moose and wolf coat. I am still too cold to do very much outside, even gather anything more significant than sticks. I always use a great deal of wood harvesting carcasses so I wouldn't freeze, and usually don't have much wood left over for anything. Am trying to get deer skins for the other clothes so I can keep warmer, but the lack of wood is a real issue, so most of the time I freeze my ♥♥♥♥ off and take a massive hit to condition. How do you guys handle this?

Edit: I have a wolf and a deer sitting outside a hut, but if I harvest I will freeze

It's pretty important to get your deer skin clothes together in the very early game when it's easy to do. I usually spend the first two days gathering my basic clothes and tools as I travel from wherever I spawn towards the dam. At the dam, I get my first set of saplings curing and then go to the ravine for the flare pistol and all the deer hides there as well as the deer hides behind the dam in winding river. That's all five hides needed for the first pants and the boots. It's also nice to get four rabbit hides along the way too. I always leave the ravine hides and guts curing in the cave in the top of the ravine and the dam hides and guts curing in the dam. Traveling with animal products in the early game is suicide.

Once I have gathered the hides and saplings, I head to the forge in forlorn muskeg. Usually by the time I'm back with a knife, a hatchet, and 20 arrowheads, all the rest is cured. I craft my bow, arrows, and deer and rabbit gear at the dam. At that point, I'm set for the mid game, and I start looting the rest of the maps and hunting bear and moose.

[2cold2play]

+1 On the coal. It will save you a massive amount of sticks, as you need a lot of sticks simply to get that temperature arrow climbing. You only need 1 coal per fire. Light a fire, wait for 20 or so minutes it takes to reach "coal temperature", drop one coal in it and you're set. Cinder hills, as people have said, is a great resource.

DON'T bother chopping wood early in the game. In Loper, choping wood is a late game thing, when you have your clothing maxed out and can take a slight condition hit. Get used to picking up sticks whenever you have some spare weight, amassing stick hoards. Also, use reclaimed wood you can break up indoors. Use hammer instead of the hatchet, or only hands if you don't have a hammer. Note that you're going to need some fir wood to repair the hammer after some time.

Your priority now should be amassing enough skins to make the crafted clothing, and in the long run (day 50+) killing 4 bears and a moose to make 2 bearskin coats and a moose bag. They make a huge diference, and the bag ensures that the weight from the bearskin coats isn't felt that much. .

[Will]

Originally posted by Pestilence:

Originally posted by Will:

Sooo, this is my bugbear right now. i have a bow and arrows, some skins, moose and wolf coat. I am still too cold to do very much outside, even gather anything more significant than sticks. I always use a great deal of wood harvesting carcasses so I wouldn't freeze, and usually don't have much wood left over for anything. Am trying to get deer skins for the other clothes so I can keep warmer, but the lack of wood is a real issue, so most of the time I freeze my ♥♥♥♥ off and take a massive hit to condition. How do you guys handle this?

Edit: I have a wolf and a deer sitting outside a hut, but if I harvest I will freeze

It's pretty important to get your deer skin clothes together in the very early game when it's easy to do. I usually spend the first two days gathering my basic clothes and tools as I travel from wherever I spawn towards the dam. At the dam, I get my first set of saplings curing and then go to the ravine for the flare pistol and all the deer hides there as well as the deer hides behind the dam in winding river. That's all five hides needed for the first pants and the boots. It's also nice to get four rabbit hides along the way too. I always leave the ravine hides and guts curing in the cave in the top of the ravine and the dam hides and guts curing in the dam. Traveling with animal products in the early game is suicide.

Once I have gathered the hides and saplings, I head to the forge in forlorn muskeg. Usually by the time I'm back with a knife, a hatchet, and 20 arrowheads, all the rest is cured. I craft my bow, arrows, and deer and rabbit gear at the dam. At that point, I'm set for the mid game, and I start looting the rest of the maps and hunting bear and moose.

That's a great tactic, the ravine for skins is an excellent idea, since there are no predators. I like the idea of leaving the skins at the dam to cure. Thanks for sharing.

[Will]

Originally posted by 2cold2play:

+1 On the coal. It will save you a massive amount of sticks, as you need a lot of sticks simply to get that temperature arrow climbing. You only need 1 coal per fire. Light a fire, wait for 20 or so minutes it takes to reach "coal temperature", drop one coal in it and you're set. Cinder hills, as people have said, is a great resource.

DON'T bother chopping wood early in the game. In Loper, choping wood is a late game thing, when you have your clothing maxed out and can take a slight condition hit. Get used to picking up sticks whenever you have some spare weight, amassing stick hoards. Also, use reclaimed wood you can break up indoors. Use hammer instead of the hatchet, or only hands if you don't have a hammer. Note that you're going to need some fir wood to repair the hammer after some time.

Your priority now should be amassing enough skins to make the crafted clothing, and in the long run (day 50+) killing 4 bears and a moose to make 2 bearskin coats and a moose bag. They make a huge diference, and the bag ensures that the weight from the bearskin coats isn't felt that much. .

Have put an emphasis now on harvesting reclaimed wood indoors. The coal is a great idea. Lot of temp increase for not a lot of effort. I am gradually learning - it's basically a different game on loper. Thanks for the thoughts.

[Pagan]

Originally posted by Will:

Sooo, this is my bugbear right now. i have a bow and arrows, some skins, moose and wolf coat. I am still too cold to do very much outside, even gather anything more significant than sticks. I always use a great deal of wood harvesting carcasses so I wouldn't freeze, and usually don't have much wood left over for anything. Am trying to get deer skins for the other clothes so I can keep warmer, but the lack of wood is a real issue, so most of the time I freeze my ♥♥♥♥ off and take a massive hit to condition. How do you guys handle this?

Edit: I have a wolf and a deer sitting outside a hut, but if I harvest I will freeze

On Interloper? I freeze my ass off and take a massive hit to condition :P but yeah thats really the only way to havest limbs. If you use the hatchet you take about 10% less condition loss than the hacksaw. Also, if you wait until the sun is just about to go down, it's just a tad bit warmer so maybe you don't freeze as quick.

[Will]

Originally posted by Pagan:

Originally posted by Will:

Sooo, this is my bugbear right now. i have a bow and arrows, some skins, moose and wolf coat. I am still too cold to do very much outside, even gather anything more significant than sticks. I always use a great deal of wood harvesting carcasses so I wouldn't freeze, and usually don't have much wood left over for anything. Am trying to get deer skins for the other clothes so I can keep warmer, but the lack of wood is a real issue, so most of the time I freeze my ♥♥♥♥ off and take a massive hit to condition. How do you guys handle this?

Edit: I have a wolf and a deer sitting outside a hut, but if I harvest I will freeze

On Interloper? I freeze my ass off and take a massive hit to condition :P but yeah thats really the only way to havest limbs. If you use the hatchet you take about 10% less condition loss than the hacksaw. Also, if you wait until the sun is just about to go down, it's just a tad bit warmer so maybe you don't freeze as quick.

Yeah interloper lol. Found out freezing is a way of life :-D

[Pagan]

Originally posted by Will:

Originally posted by Pagan:

On Interloper? I freeze my ass off and take a massive hit to condition :P but yeah thats really the only way to havest limbs. If you use the hatchet you take about 10% less condition loss than the hacksaw. Also, if you wait until the sun is just about to go down, it's just a tad bit warmer so maybe you don't freeze as quick.

Yeah interloper lol. Found out freezing is a way of life :-D

Dude it totally is. When I finally figured out that walking around and losing 50% condition was normal things got tons easier.