Survival Mode - Recovering from Hypothermia?

[cjolds]

I'm playing custom sandbox with pretty medium settings.

On like day 20 right now.

Fell thru the ice twice on day 2.

I've noticed that after recovering from hypothermia I've been completely unable to regain condition except through using emergency stims. Two weeks full sleep/water/food + herbal tea does nothing.

I just fell again while in Coastal Highway during a storm. I've since recovered and I'm walking around like a drunkard at 5% condition permanently.

Do I have to endure this until I find more emergency stims? There's gotta be another way.

[ethan]

you should fully recover - i think your world is broke, could be because its custom

[IFIYGD]

You may have accidentally turned off Condition Recovery when you set you custom settings... in which case, all you can do is dump the run and start again. You can't change custom settings mid-run.

[cjolds]

poop.

well thanks guys I appreciate the help.

I just wish these Hinterland guys weren't so self-righteous about this stuff. Nothing against survival mode, I have nothing against it existing, but I feel a lot of people (myself included) really just want a plain manual save sandbox mode. They just had to force the sleep-only hard-saves onto these other game modes.

Sure it'd be unrealistic to manual save but 20 wolves in as many square miles that always attack you isn't really realistic either. Neither is abundant thin ice in -40C weather.

[IFIYGD]

Originally posted by cjolds:

poop.

well thanks guys I appreciate the help.

I just wish these Hinterland guys weren't so self-righteous about this stuff. Nothing against survival mode, I have nothing against it existing, but I feel a lot of people (myself included) really just want a plain manual save sandbox mode. They just had to force the sleep-only hard-saves onto these other game modes.

Sure it'd be unrealistic to manual save but 20 wolves in as many square miles that always attack you isn't really realistic either. Neither is abundant thin ice in -40C weather.

Lol! They aren't "self-righteous". They are the ones putting in years of their lives making the game. They kinda have a right to make the save system that fits the way they want to, how they see it fitting into their vision for the game. Heck, be glad we have multiple ways to save. Sleeping for 1 hour, passing time for 1 hour, entering an indoor loaction (building)... some games have no save system at all. Yeah, they tend to be "easier" games with less playtime needed to beat them. But, start the game, and you better have 5-6 hours of your life to kiss goodbye to, because you can't save and quit, it's all gotta be done in one go.

It's not an easy game to learn, harder game to master. And all of us died many times before firguring out all of the tricks to it. You make 1 mistake, you may live or die. You make many mistakes, you die. You learn from your mistakes, and try again. Next run, go a bit slower when choosing custom settings. And make sure you have Condition Recovery turned on. That one setting (and mistake with it) can really make the game difficult or easier for you. (And yes, my first custom setting game, I made the same mistake... but figured out what I had done, and blamed myself for my own mistake, as I deserved.)

[cjolds]

I'll tell you hwat at least I got it on sale. So I only had to pay $9 to feel this mad, sad, and addicted.

I swear I never even scrolled down to that that setting tho. Oh well.

[Xeph]

Wait I thought that option was just to turn it off while sleeping or only when sleeping vice versa (forget which) are you saying it’s intended that you never recover condition at all - apart from stims - with that setting? Surely not.. crazy.

[Ratch]

When you boot up Custom mode, if you don't go to a preset difficulty as a base for your custom game, everything is set to low or turned off. If you swap to Voyageur or Stalker or something and just edit the settings from there, you won't run into this dilemma. Otherwise you really have to pay attention. More than likely you just scrolled past the setting, it's in the 3rd section "Health." I mean, if you didn't scroll that low then the sandbox you were in wouldn't have much in it.. some notable default settings past the Health category are: No rifle spawn, low loot across all settings, low harvestable plants/sticks/stones/etc; no fish, wolves, deer, rabbits, bears or moose. They're all turned off by default, along with everything else, these are just the ones that really stick out.

[JiffyPopKids]

OP, What is this self righteous nonsense about having to save? IIRC the orignal post was about falling through ice and not healing. later on, you bring up the subject of them being self righteous about their save system? How does saving the game and falling through ice have anything to do with "Self righteous" devs?

[cjolds]

that's probably exactly what happened then Rachet. thanks for the info I appreciate it.

JiffyPopKids it's pretty self-righteous for a bunch of people to present a game like they're an authority about surviving in the woods and then they get a bunch of stuff wrong about surviving in the woods. Unrealistic crafting times, insane rates of clothing degredation, NO COMPASS (if nothing else no compass is enough to prove my point).

Not just that, they take away manual saves. I'm assuming because they just want us to play as if it were real life. Except they want us to know on the start-up screen that it's not realistic. You may not, and I understand, but I think it's pretty self-righteous to force people to play without manual saves.

[cjolds]

it doesn't take ten minutes to put a line and hook together and it doesn't take 15 to break down a plank with a hatchet. this game isn't perfect guys.

[JiffyPopKids]

1, A compass wouldn't work.

2, did you not read the white on black collored "DISCLAIMER" at the start of the game?

3, It's their game and they can do anything they want with it really.

4, The game is not aiming to be realistic.

[Xeph]

Originally posted by cjolds:

it doesn't take ten minutes to put a line and hook together and it doesn't take 15 to break down a plank with a hatchet. this game isn't perfect guys.

And on the opposite end it doesn't take 2 painkillers plus 4 hours of rest to recover a sprained ankle or wrist. 10 hours recovery is pretty generous for food poisoning also. I'm pretty sure we are all aware the game isn't perfect, but it has a ruleset and thats that. Nobody wants to have the character to stay in bed for 3 days because they had a badly sprained ankle.

[cjolds]

Originally posted by JiffyPopKids:

1, A compass wouldn't work.

2, did you not read the white on black collored "DISCLAIMER" at the start of the game?

3, It's their game and they can do anything they want with it really.

4, The game is not aiming to be realistic.

1) pretty sure a compass would work there, either way the fact that as a pilot the only navigation I have is by landmark (maybe stars I haven't tried?) leaves a lot to be desired.
2) yep I even acknowleged that in what I said before which you missed
3) this true can't argue that
4) also acknowledged that before and you missed it

[Alcator]

Due to the global geomagnetic event, compasses don't work and most electrical appliances were fried.

It would seem that you bought the game recently, and yet you felt the need to go into CUSTOM settings, instead of playing the game on a well-tested, predefined setting. And when that fails because you did not know what you were doing, it's somehow THEIR fault.

U-huh...

YouTube once had, for a short while, a joke feature "Preview", which, upon clicking it in the comments section, would read aloud the comment you just wrote (before posting it). I wonder if people would stop being so aggressive if they had to read their posts aloud to themselves before submitting them.

[JiffyPopKids]

A compass would not work? Unless you're talking about wintermute in the cutscene before the crash. then yes, it would work. but the original post was about survival mode. "Your plane went crashing down in a geomagnetic storm. How long can you Survive?"

Where exactaly? I missed the part where you said anything about the disclaimer.

Originally posted by cjolds:

it doesn't take ten minutes to put a line and hook together and it doesn't take 15 to break down a plank with a hatchet. this game isn't perfect guys.

No one said the game was perfect. all the time that it takes to chop down a crate, or heal a sprained ankle is all a part othe balancing. IRL, it would take the upper part of TWO days to heal a sprainked ankle. In this game, it takes only four hours!

Also missed the part that you said "I realize this game is not trying to be realistic".