Frozen clothing

[ajb1978]

So...I can't believe it took me this long to think of it, but why do clothes left on the ground freeze? I can understand clothes that are worn getting wet because escaping body heat melts snow. I think everyone who lives in northern climates has had the unpleasant experience of snow creeping into your shoes and melting at some point. But clothes left on the ground? They'd be as cold as the environment, so the snow would just settle on top of them. Pick the item up, shake it off really well, and it's good to go. The outdoor temperature in this game never rises above freezing, so I can't really think of a realistic explanation for why clothes left outside would spontaneously get wet and freeze.

I have a feeling this is one of those times where I just have to suspend disbelief.

[IFIYGD]

Sunlight? Melts the snow just enough to make it wet snow, wets the clothes, which freeze when the sun drops.

Or they could have been peed on by Old Grumpy Bear. :D

[ajb1978]

Great Bear Island, where food and water never freeze, but your clothes always do!

[{O|G} Erik the Red]

Originally posted by ajb1978:

Great Bear Island, where food and water never freeze, but your clothes always do!

Lol.

"Each Mainland Spring plastic water bottle is guarenteed to quench your thirst at a cool but unfrozen temperature, so you can drink it wherever you go whenever you want! No matter where you may go, you'll always find a ready supply of Mainland Springs water bottles as if they came straight out of the factory, even in backwoods regions and remote islands!

In fact the Mainland Spring of Mainland Springs Incorporated, can't possibly produce this much water to meet demand and fill our trademarked bottles, so we've pre-distributed them so that our customers can find and fill them on their own! Now you can enjoy water from a Mainland Springs water bottle without even needing to be from the Mainland. Mainland Springs Water: So what if it isn't actually from the Mainland Spring? You're thirsty, aren't you?"

[JiffyPopKids]

The snow melts, turns to water, freezes, and becomes frozen. also another good question is why does the grass freeze? if the grass freezes, what's stopping it from freezing a shoe?

[ajb1978]

Unless you're near a fire, it wouldn't get warm enough to melt in the first place. The ambient temps outside are never above freezing.

[JiffyPopKids]

Originally posted by ajb1978:

Unless you're near a fire, it wouldn't get warm enough to melt in the first place. The ambient temps outside are never above freezing.

True.

[Timeless]

Well if you hang wet clothes outside in below freezing, they still dry.

[torkelson.mike]

Originally posted by Timeless:

Well if you hang wet clothes outside in below freezing, they still dry.

In theory yes, but it takes a LONG time!! (weeks for heavy clothes!!) I've had my jacket freeze stiff while I'm wearing it if I'm not careful to notice if I'm sweating too much while cutting wood or working hard outside. I'm from northern Minnesota, about as cold as it gets!!! :(

[Sirius Lee]

og oh sorry about the f in fog hehe that's an oldie. Yeah fog, water vapour that soaks everything. Then it freezes.

Originally posted by ajb1978:

I have a feeling this is one of those times where I just have to suspend disbelief.

So now you can save your disbelief for all the other stuff in game. ;)

[ajb1978]

Granted I haven't conducted an exhaustive research study into how clothes freeze or don't freeze solid in the snow, but when I was a kid I left my coat outside. It snowed, and my coat was covered. In the morning, my (infuriated) mother stepped outside, shook the snow off, handed the coat to me, and I wore it to school with no problem.

[JiffyPopKids]

Originally posted by ajb1978:

Granted I haven't conducted an exhaustive research study into how clothes freeze or don't freeze solid in the snow, but when I was a kid I left my coat outside. It snowed, and my coat was covered. In the morning, my (infuriated) mother stepped outside, shook the snow off, handed the coat to me, and I wore it to school with no problem.

It also dosen't really matter how cold it is, like said above the vapor of fog, dew, etc, can settle down on it and it becomes a block of ice.

Also think about it like this, have you ever made a supply cache while hunting? they're very useful if you visit that location often. you usually have a canvas tent, food, firewood, and fire starting materiels inside of one. people often find their tents wet and in an ice cube when they return either bear hunting or deer hunting. how? not sure. probably a hole that they missed and snow got inside of it.

[ajb1978]

I'm half tempted to set a shirt or something out on my deck once we're in the middle of winter and see if it freezes solid on me...

[JiffyPopKids]

Originally posted by ajb1978:

I'm half tempted to set a shirt or something out on my deck once we're in the middle of winter and see if it freezes solid on me...

Do it! :)

[iwasa]

@ajb1978
Are you referring to things like clothing items found while scavenging around in outside locations or to dry player clothing items dropped on the ground becoming frozen?

I don't think the two are equivalent cases so would like a bit of clarification as to what you mean. In the former case, I think it plausible for found clothes to be frozen, especially if in an outside location; while in the latter case, I find it much more implausible but then physics and the environment work the way the devs want it to work.

[ajb1978]

Originally posted by iwasa:

@ajb1978
Are you referring to things like clothing items found while scavenging around in outside locations or to dry player clothing items dropped on the ground becoming frozen?

I don't think the two are equivalent cases so would like a bit of clarification as to what you mean. In the former case, I think it plausible for found clothes to be frozen, especially if in an outside location; while in the latter case, I find it much more implausible but then physics and the environment work the way the devs want it to work.

The latter. Like I can investigate a body that's been laying out there for Odin knows how long, and find a dry t-shirt. But if I leave that t-shirt on the body and come back a week later, it'll be frozen solid. Or the crates on TWM, you'd better grab the clothes in those containers on your first pass, because if you don't, they're liable to be frozen and much heavier the next time you stop by.