Thin Ice vs safe ice

[Weizen1988]

Could someone post a screenshot of the thin ice? Its only ever been described to me as "thin" and "clear" which is somewhat unhelpful, as "clear" things like windows are frosted over and unable to be seen out of, so do they mean clear like windows, or actually clear as in you can see water under it?

[MarinusMaximus]

I think it means that "thin" ice is dangerous to walk over ( you can fall in the water) and "clear' is thew safe ice...i think. You can't see through the ice.

[Weizen1988]

Originally posted by MarinusMaximus:

I think it means that "thin" ice is dangerous to walk over ( you can fall in the water) and "clear' is thew safe ice...i think. You can't see through the ice.

I know you can fall though. Im asking to be shown the visual difference in game friend. Because its only ever been described to me, using unclear terms for thin ice like "its thin" or "its clear" and the safe ice as "snowy" All of which are semi useless as descriptions go.

[SteelFire]

If the ice is basically white, you're good. Don't venture out onto any blue ice. Effectively, stay close to land. You can sprint across very narrow sections of weak ice at the risk of potentially getting wet feet.

[Weizen1988]

Originally posted by SteelFire:

If the ice is basically white, you're good. Don't venture out onto any blue ice. Effectively, stay close to land. You can sprint across very narrow sections of weak ice at the risk of potentially getting wet feet.

So its blue, not "clear" or "thin" or any of that. Thank you. Mountaineering boots, wet feet isnt a huge problem, particularly not with so much shelter around. Can dry off fast enough, just didnt want to be dropping through ice with no idea what was going on.

[SBlack]

It's not just wet feet. You fall in completely and get hypothermia. On high difficulties it's all but a death sentence. And it's a real problem in Forlorn Muskeg, where there isn't any shelter. Mystery Lake for example doesn't have any thin ice afaik

[Weizen1988]

Originally posted by SteveS:

It's not just wet feet. You fall in completely and get hypothermia. On high difficulties it's all but a death sentence. And it's a real problem in Forlorn Muskeg, where there isn't any shelter. Mystery Lake for example doesn't have any thin ice afaik

This is why I initially asked for a picture. Because now im confused, ML absolutely has blue colored ice out on the lake, but its not the right blue? Ive certainly never fallen in.

[Nil Desperandum]

There is no thin/weak ice in ML you can skate/run/walk/crawl on all the ice there with impunity.

Before you break through any ice you will get a warning "Weak Ice" I always find backing off at that warning is the safest bet - reversing back the way I came to that point. I have been able to sprint forward off weak ice if I'm not carrying a load or it is only a short distance to the bank/shore etc. good luck!

[SteelFire]

Oh, my bad, I simply assumed you were specifically asking about Forlorn Muskeg.

There's only 4 regions with weak ice. Forlorn Muskeg, where it's very prevalent and the only safe stuff is as described. The others are Coastal Highway, Crumbling Highway, and Desolation Point, where you will find weak ice near the edge at the open water. At this point, none of the ponds, small lakes, or rivers in any of the regions have weak ice.

[r4nd0m]

Originally posted by warbaby:

Before you break through any ice you will get a warning "Weak Ice" I always find backing off at that warning is the safest bet - reversing back the way I came to that point. I have been able to sprint forward off weak ice if I'm not carrying a load or it is only a short distance to the bank/shore etc. good luck!

^ This
I kept wondering, have you never had an encounter with thin/weak ice? You get red text in the middle of your screen that says Weak Ice, so you back up quickly so you don't fall through. The color of the ice means nothing, you can't see weak sections.

[Weizen1988]

Originally posted by warbaby:

There is no thin/weak ice in ML you can skate/run/walk/crawl on all the ice there with impunity.

Before you break through any ice you will get a warning "Weak Ice" I always find backing off at that warning is the safest bet - reversing back the way I came to that point. I have been able to sprint forward off weak ice if I'm not carrying a load or it is only a short distance to the bank/shore etc. good luck!

Still hopeful someone will post a picture of this thin ice, i like planning my routes before i go running off, so knowing "oh those are patches of thin ice, Ill pick a different route" would be very nice.

your post led me to another thought. Why cant we make/find ice skates or ski's? They werent originally very complicated objects, you could craft some with the things we have.

[Weizen1988]

Originally posted by r4nd0m:

Originally posted by warbaby:

There is no thin/weak ice in ML you can skate/run/walk/crawl on all the ice there with impunity.

Before you break through any ice you will get a warning "Weak Ice" I always find backing off at that warning is the safest bet - reversing back the way I came to that point. I have been able to sprint forward off weak ice if I'm not carrying a load or it is only a short distance to the bank/shore etc. good luck!

^ This
I kept wondering, have you never had an encounter with thin/weak ice? You get red text in the middle of your screen that says Weak Ice, so you back up quickly so you don't fall through. The color of the ice means nothing, you can't see weak sections.

Never. All i know is people telling me "beware of clear ice, stick to icy ice" and stuff like that, so no, i have no idea what happens. Aside from the quick trip across muskeg the other day, and the railroad thing, ive never left ML in sandbox or story (barring episode 1 in milton obviously)

[r4nd0m]

Originally posted by Weizen1988:

Originally posted by r4nd0m:

^ This
I kept wondering, have you never had an encounter with thin/weak ice? You get red text in the middle of your screen that says Weak Ice, so you back up quickly so you don't fall through. The color of the ice means nothing, you can't see weak sections.

Never. All i know is people telling me "beware of clear ice, stick to icy ice" and stuff like that, so no, i have no idea what happens.

They must be messing with you ;) Go out to the waters edge in CH, just be ready to back up quickly. Ice color doesn't matter.

[Weizen1988]

Originally posted by r4nd0m:

Originally posted by Weizen1988:

Never. All i know is people telling me "beware of clear ice, stick to icy ice" and stuff like that, so no, i have no idea what happens.

They must be messing with you ;) Go out to the waters edge in CH, just be ready to back up quickly. Ice color doesn't matter.

Yeah, sadly messing with new players is terribly unhelpful. People bullshitting me like that is why ive more or less never left ML since I bought the game when that was the only map.

[SteelFire]

Originally posted by r4nd0m:

Originally posted by Weizen1988:

Never. All i know is people telling me "beware of clear ice, stick to icy ice" and stuff like that, so no, i have no idea what happens.

They must be messing with you ;) Go out to the waters edge in CH, just be ready to back up quickly. Ice color doesn't matter.

You're right about coastal ice, but in FM, color is a very solid indicator of where to go and not go.

[r4nd0m]

Originally posted by Weizen1988:

Originally posted by r4nd0m:

They must be messing with you ;) Go out to the waters edge in CH, just be ready to back up quickly. Ice color doesn't matter.

Yeah, sadly messing with new players is terribly unhelpful. People bullshitting me like that is why ive more or less never left ML since I bought the game when that was the only map.

Added you as a friend, if you have any questions then shoot me a message. I'm almost to the 500 day achievement so I know my way around pretty well :)