Save system + "frostbite" (Sabañones) is a game breaker in the story mode.

[Alecslee]

So, i think the desing of the savegames around that particular handicap (frostbite/sabañones) is a gamebreaker, because you can find yourselft in a situation where ,as a consecuence of the frostbite, your health will be limited for example to only a 20-30% of the total, and, in the case that the two savegames have been created after that handicap, you will have to restart the entyre campaingn, or play ALL the episodes with that minium health, because you can't load any savegame before that fact, and you can't heal it.

So i think the game should have a 3er savegame at the begining of each zone (plus the 2 ones that he already have) to avoid that gamebreaking point, because at least, you could allways load the save from the begining of that zone in case of you encounter a gamebreaking point, instead to have to restart the entire game.

[Alcator]

Originally posted by Alecslee:

So, i think the desing of the savegames around that particular handicap (frostbite/sabañones) is a gamebreaker, because you can find yourselft in a situation where ,as a consecuence of the frostbite, your health will be limited for example to only a 15% of the total...

Nope, minimum after complete frostbite would be 40% condition. Each bodypart is 10% (head, each arm, each leg, body). You'd have to mess up seriously to get such a horrible frostbite.

[Alecslee]

Originally posted by Alcator:

Originally posted by Alecslee:

So, i think the desing of the savegames around that particular handicap (frostbite/sabañones) is a gamebreaker, because you can find yourselft in a situation where ,as a consecuence of the frostbite, your health will be limited for example to only a 15% of the total...

Nope, minimum after complete frostbite would be 40% condition. Each bodypart is 10% (head, each arm, each leg, body). You'd have to mess up seriously to get such a horrible frostbite.

I have in fact now that 20% max helth because of various frostbites at the same time XD (leg+ankle).

The thing is that i fell in the breaking ice, and that gives me insta-hypotermia,some injuries, frozen clothes and 4 or 5 frostbite "chances" at 90% ,and since i can't make a bonfire at that moment (wind/materials), and i was to far away from any building or cave....but despite all that, I thought I could survive anyways (thats the spirit of the game at the end), so i continued and, although I have managed to found a safeplace, heal the injuries, the hypotermia, and to dry my clothes, the frostbites have completed and now my health is like 20% of the total, and i can't do nothing, because i don't have any save game before that.

And yes, i agree that i have tremendous bad luck in that situation, but if this is a posible scenario, and can break the experiencie in the story mode, i think that they have to think about anything to avoid it.

[deathbytes]

Just put Will out of his misery. Let him die and load from the last checkpoint.

[Weizen1988]

Originally posted by deathbytes:

Just put Will out of his misery. Let him die and load from the last checkpoint.

sounds like they reached a checkpoint like that. So really only choice is to start over.

[TRICKY]

Originally posted by Alecslee:

Originally posted by Alcator:

Nope, minimum after complete frostbite would be 40% condition. Each bodypart is 10% (head, each arm, each leg, body). You'd have to mess up seriously to get such a horrible frostbite.

I have in fact now that 20% max helth because of various frostbites at the same time XD (leg+ankle).

The thing is that i fell in the breaking ice, and that gives me insta-hypotermia,some injuries, frozen clothes and 4 or 5 frostbite "chances" at 90% ,and since i can't make a bonfire at that moment (wind/materials), and i was to far away from any building or cave....but despite all that, I thought I could survive anyways (thats the spirit of the game at the end), so i continued and, although I have managed to found a safeplace, heal the injuries, the hypotermia, and to dry my clothes, the frostbites have completed and now my health is like 20% of the total, and i can't do nothing, because i don't have any save game before that.

And yes, i agree that i have tremendous bad luck in that situation, but if this is a posible scenario, and can break the experiencie in the story mode, i think that they have to think about anything to avoid it.

You are at 20% health? i got 300+ game hours and was not at this point. i played story mode today and did not get ANY frostbite. DONT RUSH!! just make fire, make a tea, sleep in the cave...stop! you are very suicidal.

[Alecslee]

Like i've said before:

I just have fallen in the breaking ice without a chance to avoid it (i mean, the moment i saw the breaking ice message, the moment i fell into the ice lol), , and that causes my clothes to be frozen, hypotermia, and some frostbites risks that i can't heal, because at that point, i could not make a safe bonfire anywhere near (i coulnd't run, there was a lot of wind, wolves etc), and i was so far from any safeplace , so i only had two options: kill myself and restart, or try to arrieve at some safeplace and then heal myself...and thats what i've done, but the price has been to hight (the 20% of max health because the frosbites), and i can't restart a safe checkpoint because the two saves that the game generates automaticlly are both AFTER that events, and thats the point i am talking about, not only my particular case, but the possibility of a lot of gamebreaking points in that game because that particular save system, mostly in THE STORY MODE of course, because if that happens to me in the survival mode, there is no problem, but the sceneario in where i have to restart ALL the camping (i mean, I put +14 hours at that point), because a gamebreaking point like this, its a serious matter i think.

In any case, i fonud a way to """"solve"""" that...i've just restored the local savegame-folder to the yesterday's one with the windows feature, so now, i """"""only"""""" have to redone not only that entirely quest (the one from episode 2 about to repair the rifle), but also the previous one (the one on the water dam...but well, thats better than restart the entyre game or to be playing 5 chapters with the 20% of the health XD.

[TooTall1]

@ Alecslee Now you're catching on, making your own windows based progress saves!

The autosave and chapter saves can get you into a real bad place in a hurry, GL HH :)

[binakalgo]

Yes, that's what happens with frostbite, you lose that limb and no, it doesn't grows back.