Geomagnetic disaster.. wouldnt landlines work?

[X-SR71]

I'm here wondering, ok electricity is all gone, but we dont need power for traditional landline phones, do we? Why wouldnt they work?

[JiffyPopKids]

Who are you going to call? ghost busters? the car man? kinda in the dark here. :p

[Baby need milk]

Hmmm, you could make a call for pizza.

I think the storm was more or less like an emp, I'm not a phone guy X(

It would be kinda cool if maybe there was like a special event, that someone would call the landline and someone would say come get them/save them at "x" place, and when you get there you find like a dead frozen body, and food prints leading away. When you follow the foot prints you get a special reward, a hatchet, hunters knife, cloths, maybe bullets/gun.

Maybe differently it could be like they call you, and you go there and the phone is frozen to the holder thing, and the body is frozen. You would also get a really cool reward, gun/bullets/etc.

[mmille14]

Landline phones will go dead as well. The "event" impact is wide spread so the phone network switches and power sources would be affected.

[Captain Dan]

Landlines do need power, the only reason they still work during an electrical blackout is that the phonelines carry their own low voltage supply, seperate to the power cables that supply your house.

During a geomagnetic storm, they'd be just as dead as the main cables.

[Baby need milk]

*sigh* at least we still got cups and string.

[mmille14]

Originally posted by Shork:

*sigh* at least we still got cups and string.

We would have to go back to the old crank phones and manual switches.

[X-SR71]

Originally posted by Captain Dan:

Landlines do need power, the only reason they still work during an electrical blackout is that the phonelines carry their own low voltage supply, seperate to the power cables that supply your house.

During a geomagnetic storm, they'd be just as dead as the main cables.

Thank you for the clarification

[lkandrb]

Yep, the voltage is low when you just have dial tone, but can be fatal when a ring occurs LOL.
You would have to spin wire, and rebuild coils to create the most basic phones as the event fried all unprotected existing coils.

[KEVYNE_KICKLIGHTER]

Power is still needed to use landlines. Nominal but still some to transmit voice signals.

What's far fetched that all other humans are killed, yet the wildlife survives. Drop a nuke in an area not even animals survive -- and electromagnetic storms are radiation storms (you don't want to be in an airplane during a huge X-class flare ... it's like getting multiple chest X-Rays all over the body). Why Space Weather issues alerts to airlines of a major CME especially for international flyers.

[lkandrb]

It is fiction, so not intended to be utterly realistic. Most electromagnetic radiation requires line of sight to directly imapct you and will be absorbed or blocked by adequate material like mountains. The plane in question wouldn't be flying NOE (map or nap of the earth), but could have been on approach or partially sheilded by topography too.

[KEVYNE_KICKLIGHTER]

Originally posted by lkandrb:

It is fiction, so not intended to be utterly realistic.

But that's the problem. Hinterland added wolf attacks as danger and it's not realistic, too. So much not being realistic ... is it even a survival game anymore???

One hand wanting to be a survival game, but even the sandbox plays like Far Cry or something similar. Very scripted and too many conditions (like not chopping down trees ... green lumber or not, some heat is better than none in survival mode).

Surround by wood, and can die of hypothermia. It doesn't even make sense.

[lkandrb]

Without a rapidly burning established very hot fire you can't burn green wood. No number of matches would make a freshly cut living tree burn. Only an utterly inexperienced city dweller would consider trying to fell a living tree to burn when there is an unlimited supply of deadwood laying about. Try cutting a 10cm thick sappling down with a hacksaw or hatchet IRL. Please attach a video if you personally can manage it in as little time as it takes in-game. Sure, a few locations would have actual axes or mauls for SPLITTING firewood, but find me someone who uses an axe to chop logs into stove sized chunks. It takes even longer to cut a log into firewood pieces than it does to fell a tree. Green wood is much much harder to pull a saw through. Even pressure treated lumber is a pain in the behind to cut.
Wolves don't naturally stalk groups of men, but a single weak tired malnourished one would trigger any hungry carnivor's instinct to kill.

[Triggerhappy]

A massive enough magnetic shift that would emp the world would kill the phones. It wouldn't set it into an instant winter though. I'm hoping the story mode will help...shed some light on the details.

[KEVYNE_KICKLIGHTER]

Originally posted by lkandrb:

Without a rapidly burning established very hot fire you can't burn green wood.

You'd burn green lumber in a pinch (and yes, you can burn it ... it would smoke badly though). Seasoned wood is wood where the oil and moisture was dried out, making it burn without the smoke.

But green wood is burned when ever it's necessary (I live in the South, and they burn green pine here a lot, especially clearing brush and what thunderstorms bring down. Smokey as heck, and only burned outside, but it does burn. Any tarry wood will burn even green it just takes more effort as it's very moist wood).

BTW, Wolves don't stalk humans. They're not apex hunters, they're scavengers. They rather feast on leftovers than get killed trying to eat fresh meat.

Now bears are apex hunters and don't fear humans at all. Wolves do.

[lkandrb]

Sharks are also scavengers and attack unwounded humans regularly. Oil doesn't dry out. The simple fact is there is no pinch in TLD's environment. You are the only soul on the island in the sandbox and have a limitless supply of deadwood. You could not remain in a room where a heavily smoky green wood based fire was burning if you could manage to light one in a stove.
Spraying gasoline on a pile of pine trees stacked up with construction equiment and felled with chainsaws or a controlled burn of underbrush don't produce campfires you can sleep next to. Again, show me how long it takes you to cut and segment a live pine tree into 3-5 pieces with realistically available tools contained in-game.