Meat placed on ground wont be eaten by wolves?

[janjasic]

Hi all,if I put meat on the ground via drop action, wont it be eaten by wwolves? I would like to conserve it from decaying, but dunno if tiis is safe to do. Can someone answer pls?

[marbanno]

It's ok to drop. Wolves may come about but I've never had that happen when I drop things near a hut, building or more robust shelter.

[janjasic]

Okay, hope meat will be there even in the morning :)

[IFIYGD]

As long as you only drop it, it is safe. If you use the decoy drop, it will be detected and eaten, and all other fish and meat withing detection range becomes relabeled as decoy (detectable) as well.

So drop only, no decoy near or in food stashes. And it decays very slowly if stored in the snow outdoors, or in a car trunk or other outdoor container. Like 1%/day only. Wayyyyyy slower than any indoors loaction or in your backpack.

[NOVA7258]

Drop from inventory - meat safe, and lasts longer.
Drop as bait - meat may be eaten.

[Gustuv Wynd]

Originally posted by IFIYGD:

If you use the decoy drop, it will be detected and eaten, and all other fish and meat withing detection range becomes relabeled as decoy (detectable) as well.

Really? I might have to try that. Will any meat on the ground work as a decoy then? Or just start decaying as one?

I was just thinking about the bottle neck areas where wolves like spawn. If I pre-drop a bunch of meat around the areas (like around the Derailment in Mystery Lake...or the rail bridge) and then when there are actually a group of wolves there...toss a decoy out and then all that meat turns into a decoy and have more chances for the wolves to go after them instead of me.

[Patriot]

I was a little dissappointed with decoy dropping yesterday. I was hoping to lure a wolf that was hunting me to a certain location, but apparently it ate the decoy without approaching it eventually he did get to that spot, but only for a moment.

[IFIYGD]

Originally posted by vagrantstorm:

Originally posted by IFIYGD:

If you use the decoy drop, it will be detected and eaten, and all other fish and meat withing detection range becomes relabeled as decoy (detectable) as well.

Really? I might have to try that. Will any meat on the ground work as a decoy then? Or just start decaying as one?

I was just thinking about the bottle neck areas where wolves like spawn. If I pre-drop a bunch of meat around the areas (like around the Derailment in Mystery Lake...or the rail bridge) and then when there are actually a group of wolves there...toss a decoy out and then all that meat turns into a decoy and have more chances for the wolves to go after them instead of me.

Wolves no longer pay attention to decoys 100% of the time. They will detect it, but may ignore it, detect it and walk away to come back for it later, or detect it and eat it immediately. It was being used as a hunting exploit, to kill all wolves in one shot, so it got modified to break the exploit. But yeah, if you drop a decoy into your "safe" meat and fish stash outside, or too close to it, all meat and fish within the detection area around the decoy becomes relableled as a decoy. And therefore detectable by the wolves. Though, o wol be honest, I am not sure what the detection radius around a decoy is (10m? 20m? 30m?), so I just don't drop any decoys around anything I don;t want wolves to see.

[Gustuv Wynd]

but if there are more decoys laying around...won't that mean more chances for them to go after a decoy rather than you?

Need to do a test of this.

[IFIYGD]

Originally posted by vagrantstorm:

but if there are more decoys laying around...won't that mean more chances for them to go after a decoy rather than you?

Need to do a test of this.

It's random. Just like firestarting chances and medning chances... each decoy in a wolf's detection radius generates it's own, independant roll of the dice. You however, have no such random chance. If you are witnin detection range of a wolf (or bear), they ILL detect you. And if you are witin attack range? They WILL attack you. They may stop and eat a decoy as they a path to you, but like being stalked by a wolf, if you don;t hurry and get out of detection radius, it knows you are there. And will keep coming for the fresh hot dinner, often ignoring the smelly scraps laying around.

But, test it! And let us know. Because I have never done a full controlled test on decoys since they broke the exploit. The exploit was known and predicible. It worked, 100% of the time. The decoy and wolf behavior now? Not so much. Lol!

[janjasic]

Thanks, these advices saved my life and meat :)

[ajb1978]

Actually I have had wolves eat my meat that I had dropped. If a wolf stumbles upon your meat, regardless of the method you used to drop it, the wolf will eat it.

One time I had a pile of meat outside a fishing shack in Coastal Highway. I was inside, with a fire burning, cooking it in waves. After cooking up a bunch, I turned around and saw a wolf outside just going to town on the buffet I had laid out for it. That meat had been dropped normally, i.e. not as decoys. But its patrol path had apparently taken it close enough that it found the meat and began eating it. I tried to wait it out, but after finishing one chunk of meat, it immediately started eating another. After waiting THAT one out, it started on a third.

So yeah. Drop your meat carefully, in places wolves don't patrol.

[IFIYGD]

Originally posted by ajb1978:

Actually I have had wolves eat my meat that I had dropped. If a wolf stumbles upon your meat, regardless of the method you used to drop it, the wolf will eat it.

One time I had a pile of meat outside a fishing shack in Coastal Highway. I was inside, with a fire burning, cooking it in waves. After cooking up a bunch, I turned around and saw a wolf outside just going to town on the buffet I had laid out for it. That meat had been dropped normally, i.e. not as decoys. But its patrol path had apparently taken it close enough that it found the meat and began eating it. I tried to wait it out, but after finishing one chunk of meat, it immediately started eating another. After waiting THAT one out, it started on a third.

So yeah. Drop your meat carefully, in places wolves don't patrol.

Seriously? I have never had that happen to me. And I tend to drop fish putside of fishing huts, in wolf patrol areas. Othen. And have to go back and forth to be able to carry them all back to base. And have watched wolves walk over it and past it like it was invisible.

[Selfless]

Wolves and bears only eat your meat when they know you are around, regardless of how it was dropped.

[Kaiserbow]

I like the idea of using an outside container or car trunk to store meats, but knowing the devs and their tendency to be cheeky, they'll add predator attraction to meats stored in containers. Just imagine going outside for breakfest and seeing a bear trying to get into your car trunk O_O

[Gustuv Wynd]

Originally posted by Kaiserbow:

I like the idea of using an outside container or car trunk to store meats, but knowing the devs and their tendency to be cheeky, they'll add predator attraction to meats stored in containers. Just imagine going outside for breakfest and seeing a bear trying to get into your car trunk O_O

Well...then I'd be having lunch that day too. :) Provided I had ammo...