Harvesting vs Quartering???

[Midnight Sprite]

So for deer you can take like 1 hour and 10 mins to harvest like 9kg of meat. Or just take 1 hour and 30 mins to quarter...then even more time to harvest again at your base?

Is it less smell or something with quartering? You also can't get gut's or hide by quartering that I've found either. So, can someone please help me find what I am missing because it seems useless at the moment and I hope it is not.

[JiffyPopKids]

That's what I was thinking. it seems pretty useless. I think that maybe 1 chunk of meat (weighs 5 pounds) should take about 10 minutes. so it'll cut time off outside.

[Frau Blücher]

I'm a little confused too as one doesn't seem to get much of a benefit (and sometimes the reverse) of quartering vs. harvesting.

I have some suspicions though, they need confirmation:

- That quartering an unfrozen carcass takes less time than fully harvesting an unfrozen carcass, but the reverse is true if frozen, does that work?

- That quartering will improve with skill level making it much faster than harvesting - haven't been able to test this yet.

[Midnight Sprite]

Quartering improving with harvesting level sounds appropiate then, and I hope that is it. I also just thought that maybe the hacksaw will quarter fastest as for the tool, and of course be slower than the knife for harvesting. When I get a chance I will test that to.

[Frau Blücher]

Originally posted by Raven:

Quartering improving with harvesting level sounds appropiate then, and I hope that is it. I also just thought that maybe the hacksaw will quarter fastest as for the tool, and of course be slower than the knife for harvesting. When I get a chance I will test that to.

That's another unknown - maybe the hacksaw is ideal for quartering

we need infos :D

[sockpuppet12421]

Quartering a bear is better then wolves or whole deer in my mind, more research is needed why I feel this way. The guts and hide will be around the area, but it condition is lower (around 75%), I have no idea what this is for other then despawn mechanic. I do not think quartering changes our harvesting skill, that occurs when we harvest the bags.

[Midnight Sprite]

So as far as 100% frozen deer go. The hacksaw looks like the best tool for level one harvesting. By like 1 hour ish. The knife is far better for gut's and hide even while frozen.

As far as quartering goes, it's still 1 hour 30 mins even with 100% frozen regardless of the tool it seems. (If I remembered that correctly)

So still, I am not seeing a good case for quartering unless it drastically improves with increased levels of harvesting.

[{O|G} Erik the Red]

Originally posted by Raven:

So for deer you can take like 1 hour and 10 mins to harvest like 9kg of meat. Or just take 1 hour and 30 mins to quarter...then even more time to harvest again at your base?

Yeah it seems quartering takes it own amount of long time, but when you have it, you still have everything (albeit a bit less?). Whereas just going after harvesting for meat take almost as long, you'd still have a long time remaining to fully harvest the skin and guts as well. So theorectically, with quartering you are only spending 1 time out in the cold to harvest everything (later on), whereas harvesting direct will take longer to do so (to fully harvest everything).

[Jeffro]

Can you gut and skin then quarter? Or does the option go away once you take gut/skin?

[Midnight Sprite]

Originally posted by X-Erik the Red:

Originally posted by Raven:

So for deer you can take like 1 hour and 10 mins to harvest like 9kg of meat. Or just take 1 hour and 30 mins to quarter...then even more time to harvest again at your base?

Yeah it seems quartering takes it own amount of long time, but when you have it, you still have everything (albeit a bit less?). Whereas just going after harvesting for meat take almost as long, you'd still have a long time remaining to fully harvest the skin and guts as well. So theorectically, with quartering you are only spending 1 time out in the cold to harvest everything (later on), whereas harvesting direct will take longer to do so (to fully harvest everything).

From what I have found you'll lose the gut's and hide when you quarter anything. So basically if you don't care about the hide/guts and just want the meat, harvesting it there is still the way to go. It is faster than quartering at that spot, and you don't waste additional hours while in a safe spot harvesting again.

As far as gutting/skinning and then quartering. Yes you can; it is still a lose of time/calories spent on it though; which in essence does not make quartering useful in the least bit. Unless Hinterlands or someone else can prove me otherwise, or show me something I've missed I am disapointed in quartering as of now. I really hope I am wrong.

[Sir Prometeus]

Game with lots of meat requires less time quartering that harvesting every single resource from it. And I mean less time outside, because further processing still requires some time.

I only do it when there's lots of meat and it saves you some precious time.

[giernandez]

I find it useful specially for bears and reducing time of exposure to blizzards. Only being exposed for 1.5 hours regardless of how huge your hunt is useful for interloper where blizzards can hit any moment.

[Midnight Sprite]

Originally posted by giernandez:

I find it useful specially for bears and reducing time of exposure to blizzards. Only being exposed for 1.5 hours regardless of how huge your hunt is useful for interloper where blizzards can hit any moment.

I havent tested on bears, and yeah I would agree that would make the most sense.

[elandry13]

Originally posted by Raven:

Originally posted by X-Erik the Red:

Yeah it seems quartering takes it own amount of long time, but when you have it, you still have everything (albeit a bit less?). Whereas just going after harvesting for meat take almost as long, you'd still have a long time remaining to fully harvest the skin and guts as well. So theorectically, with quartering you are only spending 1 time out in the cold to harvest everything (later on), whereas harvesting direct will take longer to do so (to fully harvest everything).

From what I have found you'll lose the gut's and hide when you quarter anything. So basically if you don't care about the hide/guts and just want the meat, harvesting it there is still the way to go. It is faster than quartering at that spot, and you don't waste additional hours while in a safe spot harvesting again.

As far as gutting/skinning and then quartering. Yes you can; it is still a lose of time/calories spent on it though; which in essence does not make quartering useful in the least bit. Unless Hinterlands or someone else can prove me otherwise, or show me something I've missed I am disapointed in quartering as of now. I really hope I am wrong.

You still get the hide and guts when quartering. They look like when you drop them for curing inside, but it is easy to overlook them.

[Owlcyon]

You don't lose out on guts or hide when you quarter a carcass. You can find both on the ground beside the 'meat bags' near the discarded limbs.

This is my own personal experience, but I don't find the quarting so much of a time thing as it is a convenience thing. With the addition of the scent strength markers, I find it much safer to quarter the carcass and head for safety than to harvest piece by piece. Quarering means I'm only carrying the meat bags as far as safety, and the bags can be easily dropped as needed should you run into trouble. if you have to transport meat to safety and the weather isn't looking promising, this is your best bet.

With traditional harvesting, you have to harvest the meat in smaller amounts at once so you can check on weather/fire conditions. If you do pause, you have to then drop each piece of meat to avoid being detected while you work. You're essentially a sitting target while harvesting like this if you're not going to attempt it all in one go.

You also have the issue with transpoting the meat back to safety. Being individual pieces of meat, you now have to drop each piece singly if you run into an issue and a decoy isn't working.
This is best when you're close to home base and just need to move a short distance.

I believe it's all about the type of risk you're looking to take.

Mind you, again this is only my $0.02 and your mileage may vary widely.

EDIT: Clarification and words.

[Midnight Sprite]

Originally posted by Felli - Halcyon Project:

You don't lose out on guts or hide when you quarter a carcass. You can find both on the ground beside the 'meat bags' near the discarded limbs.

This is my own personal experience, but I don't find the quarting so much of a time thing as it is a convenience thing. With the addition of the scent strength markers, I find it much safer to quarter the carcass and head for safety than to harvest piece by piece. Quarering means I'm only carrying the meat bags as far as safety, and the bags can be easily dropped as needed should you run into trouble. if you have to transport meat to safety and the weather isn't looking promising, this is your best bet.

With traditional harvesting, you have to harvest the meat in smaller amounts at once so you can check on weather/fire conditions. If you do pause, you have to then drop each piece of meat to avoid being detected while you work. You're essentially a sitting target while harvesting like this if you're not going to attempt it all in one go.

You also have the issue with transpoting the meat back to safety. Being individual pieces of meat, you now have to drop each piece singly if you run into an issue and a decoy isn't working.
This is best when you're close to home base and just need to move a short distance.

I believe it's all about the type of risk you're looking to take.

Mind you, again this is only my $0.02 and your mileage may vary widely.

EDIT: Clarification and words.

Yep yep yep, you are so right! I just tested quartering again for kicks and it was there just lying down with the guts on the frozen lake. I am not sure why I didn't catch this the first time I did it. I guess I just lost out on some resources :(

Thanks so much for helping me figure this out. I know there had to be something I was missing. Great help, thanks everyone!

EDIT: Yeah, Quartering is definitly the way to go on this. Less smell, less time outside, safer, awesome looking bags, cool graphics of dead legs. Yeah, now there really isn't a reason to not quarter. Gah, I feel so embarrased. Thanks again for helping me learn! :)