TWM Mountaineer's Cabin as a late-game base

[2cold2play]

Hey folks,

So, I'm playing 'loper, I'm on day 75 or so. Initially, I planned to loot the entire map and then hunker down in CH Wolf Central Station or Fishing Camp for endgame. However, upon a trip to TWM to get 'em matches from the top of the mountain I've spent some time in the Mountaineer's Hut and fell in love with the place! I'm now seriously considering making it my endgame base. Pros: workbench, fishing cabin nearby, PLENTY of branches, rabbits and even some deer. Cons: freaking cold. Even with my +30 or so feels-like clothing I've never gotten less than two arrows of temperature drop. The weather is pretty nasty, with a blizzard evey other day and constant strong winds. Also, far away from a forge, and hauling supplies will involve multiple trips to CH and multiple climbs up a rope.

So, in your opinion, what should I do? Is TWM a horrible idea for a late game base, or should I go for it? Has anyone tried spending their late game in TWM?

Cheers

[Sconkel]

^^ Same idea here. Moved today on day 155 to there after conquered the rest without the swamp.

1. I hoped that the hut won't give me cabin fever. -> Wrong.
2. A new bear skin ? --> Right.
3. More supplies especially sharpening stones. --> To be done.

In fact my days on CH felt somehow harder but better. Problem is like on all other maps the fishing. Until now and for me CH is the fishing place with best kalorie/effort rating + coal mines.

I think i will try TWM top the next ~ 20 days and perhaps settle back.

ML was a bit better with the weather, best days on -6 degrees. At TMW i had -11 until now.

btw. have you found ANY useful clothes anywhere ? I am nearly down to the crafted ones...

[H34VY_R41N]

TWM hut gives fever?? Good to know, since I never got it there.

[pazartesi_gorusuruz]

I hate it. That place is damned. With full gear and virtually infinite food, I still almost died from cold. As beautiful as it is I wouldn't stay there in 'loper.

[hinterland_community]

The Mountaineer's Hut is for sure scenic, but also tricky and dangerous for all the reasons outlined in the thread already. It all depends on how confident you are at managing the weather, we would say. How are your supplies? 75 days on Interloper Mode is no joke!

[2cold2play]

Originally posted by Sconkel:

^^ Same idea here. Moved today on day 155 to there after conquered the rest without the swamp.

1. I hoped that the hut won't give me cabin fever. -> Wrong.
2. A new bear skin ? --> Right.
3. More supplies especially sharpening stones. --> To be done.

In fact my days on CH felt somehow harder but better. Problem is like on all other maps the fishing. Until now and for me CH is the fishing place with best kalorie/effort rating + coal mines.

I think i will try TWM top the next ~ 20 days and perhaps settle back.

ML was a bit better with the weather, best days on -6 degrees. At TMW i had -11 until now.

btw. have you found ANY useful clothes anywhere ? I am nearly down to the crafted ones...

Hmm, I found the weather in CH to be easier. There I had 1 arrow temperature drops quite frequently. This has never happened on TWM. Still, even TWM is better than PV. That's unbearable.

155 days! Impressive. Going for that sweet 200?

As for clothing, I found some woolen socks, a woolen toque, and jeans inside the cointainers (near the engine, near the bear, and in the Tail Section). I also found a ski jacket in the Hut. Oh, and trail boots, but they're not that relevant. .

[2cold2play]

Originally posted by hinterland_community:

The Mountaineer's Hut is for sure scenic, but also tricky and dangerous for all the reasons outlined in the thread already. It all depends on how confident you are at managing the weather, we would say. How are your supplies? 75 days on Interloper Mode is no joke!

A part of what I enjoy about this game and this forum is how you Hinterland folks participate in it. It makes a difference!

Anybody who feels confident about the weather on Interloper is a dead man walking. It's the first sign that you will die, because most often overconfidence is what kills you.

As for supplies, I have approx 80 matches, they're the most important. I have some pre-disaster food, 8 kilos of deer meet, a bow and one arrow, and all tools, save for the hatchet. Crafted clothes and a bedroll, of course, nearly all best non craftable clothes, and some comfort items like lanterns and the flare pistol. Unfortunately, my cloth, arrowhead, and whetstone supplies are all in Quinset Station, and I'm going to need them pretty soon (gulp).

[jswilliams]

You need to see if it's possible to sustain a continual fire which given your tools doesn't seem viable. On Interloper I think that's what will make it untenable. You're better off late game in CH where it turns out most of your stuff is at. Plus I think the MH wolf on Loper is too dangerous...the hut has no door (?), it's another fire you have to keep going.

Originally posted by RAIN:

TWM hut gives fever?? Good to know, since I never got it there.

Uhhh...really? This might be true on Interloper though, but I didn't think play mode changed what shelters caused cabin fever just the ratio of indoor/outdoor time. On Voy I spent 2 weeks at MH and quite a bit of it indoors and never even a warning of CF. I thought TWM was CF-free region honestly...

[pazartesi_gorusuruz]

Originally posted by jswilliams:

I thought TWM was CF-free region honestly...

Dude I got cabin fever in the caves in TWM xD

I still couldn't figure out exactly how long it takes to be indoors, I haven't read the wiki and I don't wanna. It's just that it feels like it's not a fixed rate. Because I too remember spending a lot of time indoors in TWM and not having c/f. But last time I was there, I entered a spiral of freezing and cabin fever in the main hut. And again, I got it inside a cave too, while climbing the damn summit.

[VSS-Ghostsniper]

Originally posted by pazartesi_gorusuruz:

Originally posted by jswilliams:

I thought TWM was CF-free region honestly...

Dude I got cabin fever in the caves in TWM xD

I still couldn't figure out exactly how long it takes to be indoors, I haven't read the wiki and I don't wanna. It's just that it feels like it's not a fixed rate. Because I too remember spending a lot of time indoors in TWM and not having c/f. But last time I was there, I entered a spiral of freezing and cabin fever in the main hut. And again, I got it inside a cave too, while climbing the damn summit.

On Voyagour you are unable to get cabin fever in the first 60 days, on stalker it is 25 days and on Interloper it is 10 days

[pazartesi_gorusuruz]

Originally posted by GER Scania V8:

Originally posted by pazartesi_gorusuruz:

Dude I got cabin fever in the caves in TWM xD

I still couldn't figure out exactly how long it takes to be indoors, I haven't read the wiki and I don't wanna. It's just that it feels like it's not a fixed rate. Because I too remember spending a lot of time indoors in TWM and not having c/f. But last time I was there, I entered a spiral of freezing and cabin fever in the main hut. And again, I got it inside a cave too, while climbing the damn summit.

On Voyagour you are unable to get cabin fever in the first 60 days, on stalker it is 25 days and on Interloper it is 10 days

It was on voyageur day 170ish. So I assume unless you have perfect clothing (two layers of wolf and two layers of deer along with a deer boot and rabbit mitts), it gets really cold at the end game in TWM. Considering in loper the weather keeps getting worse faster than other difficulties that place will be freezing. Though I still don't understand how people make it to day 200 on loper. Maybe it doesn't get that cold?

[numbertwopencil]

The fishing hut, the fairly easy hunting, and the general safety of the TWM hut are all pluses but I've had better luck using one of the warm caves. The lack of cloth in TWM, at least on Interloper, makes it hard for me to maintain warm gear and the hut requires warm gear. I can't remember if any of the regular caves in TWM have warm spots in the back or not but all of the caves that have to load are quite warm.

[wcrea87]

Originally posted by hinterland_community:

The Mountaineer's Hut is for sure scenic, but also tricky and dangerous for all the reasons outlined in the thread already. It all depends on how confident you are at managing the weather, we would say. How are your supplies? 75 days on Interloper Mode is no joke!

Could we have the option to repair the hole in the roof of the hut? Combine bedding? Im finding it hard to balance the need to keep a fire going nearly all the time.. I'd strap some plain crash junk to the roof and door before I let all my heat escape in a storm.. Can't even close the windows! Not much of a mountaineer's hut if everyone who falls asleep there freezes to death. They'd have warmer cots/beds prepared too, maybe even a nice down mummy bag.

Im complaining so much because I really like TWM but its hard to justify staying there as I slowly lose the battle to extreme cold inside the Hut. Climbing ropes is also super exhausting.. Is it supposed to take days to get to the summit? I have to sleep in caves because ropes totally drain me even with a light inventory..

[VSS-Ghostsniper]

Originally posted by wcrea87:

Originally posted by hinterland_community:

The Mountaineer's Hut is for sure scenic, but also tricky and dangerous for all the reasons outlined in the thread already. It all depends on how confident you are at managing the weather, we would say. How are your supplies? 75 days on Interloper Mode is no joke!

Could we have the option to repair the hole in the roof of the hut? Combine bedding? Im finding it hard to balance the need to keep a fire going nearly all the time.. I'd strap some plain crash junk to the roof and door before I let all my heat escape in a storm.. Can't even close the windows! Not much of a mountaineer's hut if everyone who falls asleep there freezes to death. They'd have warmer cots/beds prepared too, maybe even a nice down mummy bag.

Im complaining so much because I really like TWM but its hard to justify staying there as I slowly lose the battle to extreme cold inside the Hut. Climbing ropes is also super exhausting.. Is it supposed to take days to get to the summit? I have to sleep in caves because ropes totally drain me even with a light inventory..

Well even climbing ropes with no gear on you can be very exhausting. Imagine climbing a rope like the ones in TWM IRL with a 20 - 30 KG Backpack

[H34VY_R41N]

Originally posted by wcrea87:

Originally posted by hinterland_community:

The Mountaineer's Hut is for sure scenic, but also tricky and dangerous for all the reasons outlined in the thread already. It all depends on how confident you are at managing the weather, we would say. How are your supplies? 75 days on Interloper Mode is no joke!

Could we have the option to repair the hole in the roof of the hut? Combine bedding? Im finding it hard to balance the need to keep a fire going nearly all the time.. I'd strap some plain crash junk to the roof and door before I let all my heat escape in a storm.. Can't even close the windows! Not much of a mountaineer's hut if everyone who falls asleep there freezes to death. They'd have warmer cots/beds prepared too, maybe even a nice down mummy bag.

Im complaining so much because I really like TWM but its hard to justify staying there as I slowly lose the battle to extreme cold inside the Hut. Climbing ropes is also super exhausting.. Is it supposed to take days to get to the summit? I have to sleep in caves because ropes totally drain me even with a light inventory..

+1 for hut repair and window closing. I thought myself about it. And nailing a pair of furs to the door will work better than a metal plate. =)

[mf187doubleg]

Originally posted by RAIN:

TWM hut gives fever?? Good to know, since I never got it there.

I was also surprised.