The Long Dark

The Long Dark

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JiffyPopKids Mar 21, 2017 @ 4:10pm
Do wolves eat bear?
Just killed a bear and cooked it. now I'm in a "catch 22" where if I store it in a locker it'll get rotten faster. where if I dump it outside on the porch a wolf might eat it?

Btw I'm living in CH quonset if it matters.
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IFIYGD Mar 21, 2017 @ 5:14pm 
Dump it outsdie in the snow.

Wolves will only eat your food stash out dors if you drop it as a decoy or drop a decoy in the pile or next to the pile.

Just drop it, no decoys. Never had a wolf eat meat or fish I left outside, in their detection range, unless I dropped a decoy into or near the pile. Sotring meat, cooked or raw indoors, in a ncontainer or out of one, is just wasting food, and letting it decay at much higher rates.
jswilliams Mar 21, 2017 @ 5:39pm 
+1

Oh and, uh, careful with that back door...
MHC Mar 21, 2017 @ 6:03pm 
Meat lasts longer if you drop it out in the snow? I'll be damned. Might have to start doing that. Been living on coastal highway for a while now and eating almost nothing but fish, but my fishing skill is getting high enough that I typically end up catching more fish than I'll eat before it goes bad during a fishing-day. Being able to keep it longer would be nice.

Though I do have to admit I'm reaching the point where I'm questioning why I'm playing. Little excitement or danger now since I can just stay on my island eating fish 24/7 and every day is just doing chores so I'm well stocked enough for when a blizzard comes through and I can't do anything. And I still feel compelled to do it since reaching this point was an adventure. Just a shame the wolves respawn. Would've gone on a spree for all the trouble they gave me early on in stalker.
JiffyPopKids Mar 21, 2017 @ 7:13pm 
Originally posted by MHC:
Meat lasts longer if you drop it out in the snow? I'll be damned. Might have to start doing that. Been living on coastal highway for a while now and eating almost nothing but fish, but my fishing skill is getting high enough that I typically end up catching more fish than I'll eat before it goes bad during a fishing-day. Being able to keep it longer would be nice.

Yup, That's one of the "lesser known" mechanics.
RebelSandGaming Mar 21, 2017 @ 7:16pm 
would interestin to watch usin fish as a lure for a coat sounds kinda nice might use a decoy more often
IFIYGD Mar 21, 2017 @ 7:20pm 
Originally posted by JiffyPopKids:
Originally posted by MHC:
Meat lasts longer if you drop it out in the snow? I'll be damned. Might have to start doing that. Been living on coastal highway for a while now and eating almost nothing but fish, but my fishing skill is getting high enough that I typically end up catching more fish than I'll eat before it goes bad during a fishing-day. Being able to keep it longer would be nice.

Yup, That's one of the "lesser known" mechanics.

Hardly "lesser known". Been fairly well known by long time players for, well... a long time.

And puplished guides on it in the Guides section, including this one:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=558517894

And the same info published by people who did extensive testing on decay rates, on the online Hinterland forums. Just saying, the info has been available for a long time, if you look for it. Not hard to find.
Sugam Mar 21, 2017 @ 8:07pm 
I dump everything out in the snow. If you stockpile uncooked meat then it also saves you a few matches and there, but I guess that depends onif you are playing in Interloper or not.

Originally posted by IFIYGD:
Originally posted by JiffyPopKids:

Yup, That's one of the "lesser known" mechanics.

Hardly "lesser known". Been fairly well known by long time players for, well... a long time.

And puplished guides on it in the Guides section, including this one:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=558517894

And the same info published by people who did extensive testing on decay rates, on the online Hinterland forums. Just saying, the info has been available for a long time, if you look for it. Not hard to find.

There are guides for this game? I never knew lol.
earthmom Mar 21, 2017 @ 10:37pm 
Originally posted by JiffyPopKids:
Originally posted by MHC:
Meat lasts longer if you drop it out in the snow? I'll be damned. Might have to start doing that. Been living on coastal highway for a while now and eating almost nothing but fish, but my fishing skill is getting high enough that I typically end up catching more fish than I'll eat before it goes bad during a fishing-day. Being able to keep it longer would be nice.

Yup, That's one of the "lesser known" mechanics.

You can find a corpse outside and put your meat on him to hold for you, too. :) I sort of love the gruesomeness of running over to my local corpse to have lunch.
binakalgo Mar 21, 2017 @ 10:56pm 
I thought that car trunks were the prefered method of refrigeration around... Always thought that wolves would come for my meat...
earthmom Mar 21, 2017 @ 11:06pm 
Originally posted by binakalgo:
I thought that car trunks were the prefered method of refrigeration around... Always thought that wolves would come for my meat...

If you drop meat outside by your door, or on a porch, it stays good the longest. Wolves won't bother it.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=813266821
Last edited by earthmom; Mar 21, 2017 @ 11:07pm
wcrea87 Mar 22, 2017 @ 2:25am 
Originally posted by em:
Originally posted by binakalgo:
I thought that car trunks were the prefered method of refrigeration around... Always thought that wolves would come for my meat...

If you drop meat outside by your door, or on a porch, it stays good the longest. Wolves won't bother it.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=813266821


That doesnt make any sense, but good to know! Ive seen a Yosemite bear (California, black bear) tear open a car like a tin of sardines just to get a bag of cheetos, cant imagine what they'd do if you left slabs of meat just lying around.. Off the grid folks up North usally hang and salt and/or smoke their fish from what I hear.
JiffyPopKids Mar 22, 2017 @ 8:15am 
Originally posted by IFIYGD:
Originally posted by JiffyPopKids:

Yup, That's one of the "lesser known" mechanics.

Hardly "lesser known". Been fairly well known by long time players for, well... a long time.

And puplished guides on it in the Guides section, including this one:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=558517894

And the same info published by people who did extensive testing on decay rates, on the online Hinterland forums. Just saying, the info has been available for a long time, if you look for it. Not hard to find.

Fair enough, but most "new" players or "nooby" players (like myself the first 50 hours in-game xD) didn't know.


Originally posted by em:
Originally posted by binakalgo:
I thought that car trunks were the prefered method of refrigeration around... Always thought that wolves would come for my meat...

If you drop meat outside by your door, or on a porch, it stays good the longest. Wolves won't bother it.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=813266821

I used this all the time. I actaully felt kinda bad leaving week's supplies of fish outside the camp office so I could head on to Forlorn Muskeg.
IFIYGD Mar 22, 2017 @ 8:48am 
Originally posted by JiffyPopKids:
Originally posted by IFIYGD:

Hardly "lesser known". Been fairly well known by long time players for, well... a long time.

And puplished guides on it in the Guides section, including this one:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=558517894

And the same info published by people who did extensive testing on decay rates, on the online Hinterland forums. Just saying, the info has been available for a long time, if you look for it. Not hard to find.

Fair enough, but most "new" players or "nooby" players (like myself the first 50 hours in-game xD) didn't know.


Yep. I didn;t know, or want to know, about Guides or spoilers when I firt started playing. I didn;t look at any of them until after I had almost 100 hours played. But the decay rate and wolves no nomming down on food left in the snow or on the ice... I found out by accident and observation. Spent a day in the Second fishing hut on MLm in an early run, in Pilgrim. Wasn't worried about the wolves attacking me, but was worried about them coming for my fish. But had really good luck wth fishing, and got carried away. Left fish in the hut, dropped some outside on the ice, and carried what I could back to Camp Office. Walked back toward the fishing hut to pick some more up, saw a wolf walking around where I had left fish outside, and watched it completely ignore it and walk over and around it, then go after a deer. Went in to grab the fish in the hut, noticed in just a short time it had degraded quite a bit. Wnet outside to pick up the fish outside,m noticed it had hardly degraded at all. Carried it all back to the fCamp Office. Found 2 oieces at the same condition, Left one outside in the snow, took one inside and slapped it on a counter. Found 2 more pieces at the same condition, cooked them both inside, noticed that their cindition impproved after cooking, both back to 100%. Left the one cooked fish on the counter next to the raw fish. Took the ohter outside and dropped it in the snow. Cooked half of the remaining fish and took it, with the raw fish and laid it out where I saw woves pathing. None of the fish was touched by the wolves. The cooked fish outdoors degraded very slowly, the raw fish degraded somewhat quicker. The cooked fish idoors degraded faster than the cooked fish outdoors, the raw fish indoors was degraded to 0% very quickly. I didn't take notes on what percentange per day, but I did see that outdoors casued slower decay than indoors. I hadn;t tested fish or meat in the backpack inventory yet. I did that on later runs. I did a ton of ealry runs just testing suff like decay indoors and outdoors, and whether wolves or bear noticed food left laying around, or only decoy foods.

After a long time, I finally looked to see if guides had been written on it, here and online, to get specific numbers from people who had done extensive scientific tests. And I also found I wasting a ton of time, and energy overhunting and overfishing, and wasting food like crazy.

The info is out there, if people WANT to look for it. WHEN they want to look for it, is all I am saying. Quite a bit of the first 200 or so hours I played was spent just learning the maps, and running my own tests, before asking questions here or looking for answers in guides. But that is just my own personal playstyle. And I still keep fidning out new stuff all the time, reading the forums and looking at screenshots my friends post. And trying new stuff, and running new test runs in Pilgrim. Voy and Stalker. Just to see what I find. Often finding new, horrible ways to die. xD
binakalgo Mar 22, 2017 @ 9:38pm 
Well, for the first time I will say that's an unrealistic thing that will bother me... friking wolves follow me for miles but they don't care about 50 kg of meat outside the place where I hide?

Breaks immersion.

There, I said it.
MHC Mar 22, 2017 @ 10:20pm 
An electromagnet wizard did it.
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