PVP in Unturned is atrocious.

[Alpacalypse]

tldr for the lazy: Bad hitboxes, item balance is a joke, abusive admins and pay-to-win servers.

It's near unplayable at this point. Many of these problems aren't precisely the fault of the developer, but they still detract from the game.
I'll start with problems that are on the developer's side:
First and foremost, the hitboxes are garbage. You can headshot a person three times over and none of them will register as headshots. The servers are in a near constant state of lag regardless of ping or server location. I was getting constant lag spikes on a US server, despite having around 60 ping the whole time.

Now, let's talk item balance. It makes no sense that a Sportshot carbine does seemingly less damage than an Eaglefire assault rifle. Any competent player with a decent weapon will steamroll anyone with weaker, civilian grade weapons. It leads to having a couple of overpowered players roaming around the map ruining the server for everyone else.
Games like DayZ do weapon balance right: Civilian weapons won't have the magazine capacity or fire rate of military-grade firearms, but they still do a lot of damage. That way, if the player using them is skilled, they can still outperform someone with the best gear in the game. It isn't like that in Unturned. Most of the civilian weapons are plagued with terrible damage, meaning you're better off rushing with your fists, provided your opponent isn't a ♥♥♥♥♥ with terrible aim.

Now, let's get down to the problems with the game's servers. I understand it isn't Nelson's fault, but that doesn't make them any less glaring.

Abusive admins. They're EVERYWHERE. I think I've been banned by a pre-pubescent admin for killing them more times than I can count.
Finally, Pay-to-win servers. This is one of my biggest gripes. You know, the ones that offer "Donations" (They're essentially power-ups) in exchange for guaranteed top-tier gear. It completely ruins the game to have maxed-out players roaming around that retain their gear after dying. It devolves into a battle of attrition that you can't possibly win. Sure, I can TRY and find a server that doesn't offer pay-to-win services, but it's more than likely that the 3 aforementioned problems will be plaguing it anyways.

This isn't a post made out of spite. It's a post made out of annoyance. I genuinely enjoy Unturned's PVP gameplay: It's all the fun of DayZ's "tactical" combat without a map the size of Texas. It makes for a perfect casual PVP experience. However, the game is being squandered by these problems. The few servers I have found that offered even slightly vanilla-esque gameplay without any of these problems usually died quickly in the wake of the "LOADS OF LOOT FEASTS AIRDROPS BOUNTIES FREE TELEPORTING ITEM SPAWNING" servers. I understand I'll probably get ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ into the ground for this, but I couldn't care less. These problems need to be addressed.

EDIT: In retrospect, it's probably better to play on servers that give you SOMETHING to start off with. Not a full military kit, but just a shirt and knife. Something along the lines. The amount of times an incompetent ten year old has killed me simply because I had naught but fists is stunning.

[LeeIzaZombie]

Lol... The sportshot is a damn airsoft gun, its not supposed to do so much damage. The rifles you find at farms can one hit headshot players if they wear no helmets. Also filter your search for cheats disabled and plugins disabled and you might find the server you're looking for.

[Alpacalypse]

I've tried that. Most of them lag or have abusive admins.

The Sportshot isn't an airsoft gun, it more than likely fires a .22 round. Also, no, I've never 1shotted anyone with a civilian rifle, helmet or not. I never even find the damn things. It's always a colt or a sportshot that I end up finding.

[Marksman Max]

I believe the Sportshot is a Ruger 10-22, so it's actually a 10-shot .22 caliber rifle. Still, it wouldn't do as much damage compared to other guns, but to make up for that it has awesome RPM and, like, no recoil. That's realistic too; we own a Ruger 10-22 and I've ran a bunch of rounds through it.

[Sir Doggy Jvla]

Originally posted by Alpacalypse:

tldr for the lazy: Bad hitboxes, item balance is a joke, abusive admins and pay-to-win servers.

It's near unplayable at this point. Many of these problems aren't precisely the fault of the developer, but they still detract from the game.
I'll start with problems that are on the developer's side:
First and foremost, the hitboxes are garbage. You can headshot a person three times over and none of them will register as headshots. The servers are in a near constant state of lag regardless of ping or server location. I was getting constant lag spikes on a US server, despite having around 60 ping the whole time.

Now, let's talk item balance. It makes no sense that a Sportshot carbine does seemingly less damage than an Eaglefire assault rifle. Any competent player with a decent weapon will steamroll anyone with weaker, civilian grade weapons. It leads to having a couple of overpowered players roaming around the map ruining the server for everyone else.
Games like DayZ do weapon balance right: Civilian weapons won't have the magazine capacity or fire rate of military-grade firearms, but they still do a lot of damage. That way, if the player using them is skilled, they can still outperform someone with the best gear in the game. It isn't like that in Unturned. Most of the civilian weapons are plagued with terrible damage, meaning you're better off rushing with your fists, provided your opponent isn't a ♥♥♥♥♥ with terrible aim

Now, let's get down to the problems with the game's servers. I understand it isn't Nelson's fault, but that doesn't make them any less glaring.

Abusive admins. They're EVERYWHERE. I think I've been banned by a pre-pubescent admin for killing them more times than I can count.
Finally, Pay-to-win servers. This is one of my biggest gripes. You know, the ones that offer "Donations" (They're essentially power-ups) in exchange for guaranteed top-tier gear. It completely ruins the game to have maxed-out players roaming around that retain their gear after dying. It devolves into a battle of attrition that you can't possibly win. Sure, I can TRY and find a server that doesn't offer pay-to-win services, but it's more than likely that the 3 aforementioned problems will be plaguing it anyways.

This isn't a post made out of spite. It's a post made out of annoyance. I genuinely enjoy Unturned's PVP gameplay: It's all the fun of DayZ's "tactical" combat without a map the size of Texas. It makes for a perfect casual PVP experience. However, the game is being squandered by these problems. The few servers I have found that offered even slightly vanilla-esque gameplay without any of these problems usually died quickly in the wake of the "LOADS OF LOOT FEASTS AIRDROPS BOUNTIES FREE TELEPORTING ITEM SPAWNING" servers. I understand I'll probably get ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ into the ground for this, but I couldn't care less. These problems need to be addressed.

play server with no cheat
hitbox are totally good (I will say they are better than arma and dayZ and other games)
item balance: with the new update there will be less sniping
you know helmet ?
the lag because they don't have a good connection (the server)
Lag on US server ? you live in china :3
you know what is a sportshot in real life ... HE'S NAME IS BETTER THAN YOU SPORT SHOT: sport shot, there is sport and shot, it's a gun for sport
eaglefire: you said it, a assault riffle
PRO WITH COLT KILL BEST PLAYER (in stuf) IN SERVER: what about a pro which is the best player (in stuf) ?
personnaly my colt don't have 30 ammo
my colt don't do more damage than an eaglefire :3
you know the filter: cheat, no cheat, any cheat ? it's give you the possibility to have vanilla server :P
IF YOU WANT VANILLA, IF YOU WANT RP, IF YOU WANT DON'T LIKE KOS: GO IN ARMA III OR DAYZ ♥♥♥♥♥ PLEASE !!!!!
good bye

Originally posted by Alpacalypse:

You don't seem to know much about anything, bowtie.
Nocheat=admins can still ban/kick.
Hitboxes aren't good at all.
I live in America. Stupid assumption to make.
A rifle is a rifle, regardless of caliber. Impact area matters 5 times more than weapon caliber. Headshots shouldn't do less damage than a knife. Not just that, but considering the Eaglefire shoots a .223 (more commonly known as 5.56 NATO), the damage it does is absurd. Sportshot is useless compared to it.
You clearly didn't read my statement about wanting a casual PVP game. Arma III and DayZ are NOT casual. Colt does less damage than Eaglefire despite firing a much, MUCH more lethal round.

yes admin won't give
prove why hitbox are bad PLEASE
america is really large: you can have a server with is connection in the east and you probably live in west (exemple so don't say I LIVE AT EAST)
pppplllleeasssse it's not arma III and dayZ: I don't care if a bullet is name .666MyDick
and if I didn't understand: WHAT THE PROBLEM WITH SPORTSHOT AND EAGLEFIRE
oh and I prefer to say to you: you are a noob because every noob of unturned say PLEASE IMPROVE THE DAMAGE OF SPORTSHOT
#KillTheUnturnedNoob


oh and if I just edit my comment it's because I say at every noob to stop :p

[Alpacalypse]

You don't seem to know much about anything, bowtie.
Nocheat=admins can still ban/kick.
Hitboxes aren't good at all.
I live in America. Stupid assumption to make.
A rifle is a rifle, regardless of caliber. Impact area matters 5 times more than weapon caliber. Headshots shouldn't do less damage than a knife. Not just that, but considering the Eaglefire shoots a .223 (more commonly known as 5.56 NATO), the damage it does is absurd. Sportshot is useless compared to it.
You clearly didn't read my statement about wanting a casual PVP game. Arma III and DayZ are NOT casual. Colt does less damage than Eaglefire despite firing a much, MUCH more lethal round.

[Alpacalypse]

Originally posted by Marksman Max:

I believe the Sportshot is a Ruger 10-22, so it's actually a 10-shot .22 caliber rifle. Still, it wouldn't do as much damage compared to other guns, but to make up for that it has awesome RPM and, like, no recoil. That's realistic too; we own a Ruger 10-22 and I've ran a bunch of rounds through it.

For balance's sake, it shouldn't be weaker than a baseball bat. I usually take melee weapons over the sportshot because of its complete ineptitude.

[Crazycat]

the hit boxes are not bad, probably your problem is with the lag, and YES the fre**** game lags, but that have 2 motives: 1 Unity Engine, tho they are improving the engine networking. 2 Nelson is making the game while learning.

about the guns, i totally agree that they need a rework on their damage. i had a server for a while (till my internet provider said fk your server and closed the firewall on me)and i edited all the guns damage to make them a lot more lethal and make a lot harder to find ammo, also made Kevlar and helmet over the civilian gun damage so they actually make some difference that balanced my server and made the stupid kids leave.

about servers, i agree that there are too much bad admins around and as far as i get why donation system exists on servers, they make the compensation way too OP. but that only means that when you find the right server, it probably will have a great community =p

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Rainbow Bowtie, just go away, you may be good on the game but you totally are acting like one of the noob kids you say to hate. if you like the game like a tactical fps like BF its your problem, but some people (like me and a lot of other people) played the game as a survival fps like arma or dayz but didn't had a computer to run it or money to buy the games.

feel free to hate my comment like you made on your edit. =)