Do people still really complain about the Maplestrike?

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Everyone keeps whining that it's a "noob-gun" even though it's outclassed by several other AR's statistically. What's up with that?

[Gorgeous Freeman]

Probably due to the complete lack of recoil and inaccuracy with the right skills/attachments.

The crosshair might as well be a single dot for all it's worth. The thing basically becomes a laser rifle.

[[GSDF] Mericλn]

People complain about everything.
But then those people are usually the ones who die to literally everything Nelson has put in the game so...

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Gorgeous Freeman původně napsal:

Probably due to the complete lack of recoil and inaccuracy with the right skills/attachments.

The crosshair might as well be a single dot for all it's worth. The thing basically becomes a laser rifle.

I feel like that's based on how the players build their skillset and equipment, but I don't see the reason to blindly yell out "omg nelson pls nerf" because someone had a better setup than you. I'm primarily a PVE player, but I find much more success using a Fusilaut than a Maplestrike, considering it has the highest DPS of any weapon if you time your bursts properly. It's durable, low kick, and since it can use Military and Ranger ammotypes, ammo becomes twice as frequent, the only downsides I'd say it has is a lack of automatic firemode and it's rarity.

[Gorgeous Freeman]

arachmigo původně napsal:

Gorgeous Freeman původně napsal:

Probably due to the complete lack of recoil and inaccuracy with the right skills/attachments.

The crosshair might as well be a single dot for all it's worth. The thing basically becomes a laser rifle.

I feel like that's based on how the players build their skillset and equipment, but I don't see the reason to blindly yell out "omg nelson pls nerf" because someone had a better setup than you. I'm primarily a PVE player, but I find much more success using a Fusilaut than a Maplestrike, considering it has the highest DPS of any weapon if you time your bursts properly. It's durable, low kick, and since it can use Military and Ranger ammotypes, ammo becomes twice as frequent, the only downsides I'd say it has is a lack fo automatic firemode and it's rarity.

But when most people use spec ops and max out their accuracy skills first and people generally use the same combinations of attachments then you're essentally forced into using the same loadout because you're at a severe disadvantage. Maybe nerf to the maplestrike is a bit too much, I'd prefer a rework to recoil/accuracy, meaning that there's a certain amount of both that cannot be reduced through attachments/skills.

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Gorgeous Freeman původně napsal:

arachmigo původně napsal:

I feel like that's based on how the players build their skillset and equipment, but I don't see the reason to blindly yell out "omg nelson pls nerf" because someone had a better setup than you. I'm primarily a PVE player, but I find much more success using a Fusilaut than a Maplestrike, considering it has the highest DPS of any weapon if you time your bursts properly. It's durable, low kick, and since it can use Military and Ranger ammotypes, ammo becomes twice as frequent, the only downsides I'd say it has is a lack fo automatic firemode and it's rarity.

But when most people use spec ops and max out their accuracy skills first and people generally use the same combinations of attachments then you're essentally forced into using the same loadout because you're at a severe disadvantage. Maybe nerf to the maplestrike is a bit too much, I'd prefer a rework to recoil/accuracy, meaning that there's a certain amount of both that cannot be reduced through attachments/skills.

I think an easy fix would probably be just to give it horizantal recoil, and increase it's spread across the board, it's a nerf, yes-- but it would compensate for the amount of attachments and whatnot you can already shove onto it to make it a laser pointer.

[Cthulhu_bng]

I mean I call the Matamorez the "No-Skill Gun" and I've seen others call it the "Noob Gun". But- I almost never see anyone call the Maplestrike a "Noob Gun".

[fox]

IRL the C7, the gun its based off of, has very little recoil and high accuracy. Theres a reason the Canadian Army equips a 2x scope on it by standard.

[LukeTheDuke99]

The maplestrike is such an accurate weapon even with no attatchments but maxed sharpshooter, and even better with attatchments. It's my go-to on PEI obviously because it's so easy to get, but I also like the Nightraider and Heart-breaker too depending on the map.

[Claudia]

I don't. It's really good weapon. Yes, it has 700 RPM. Yes, it works well with a silencer/barrel. Yes, the recoil is low. But here is why the Maplestrike gets overused so much.

Only reason is because the Eaglefire and Zubeknakov were nerfed. The Maplestrike didn't receive any tweaks or changes when it first was added.

Eaglefire Nerf: Loss of automatic mode, way lower fire rate although the stats for it is still 666 RPM. Lost it's usefulness even for close quarter combat.

Zubeknakov Nerf: Way lower accuracy, changed its recoil, faster fire rate. Three main things that removed all purpose for the Zubeknakov and "balance" (as if Nelson knews what balance is) for the Russia Map.

"But look, Zubeknakov now spawn more commonly now!"

Yeah? It's in the Russia Map only. Thoses two rifles didn't deserves nerfs.

[unresfriado]

it's easy to use
easy to find
no recoil at all
thats why

[Claudia]

COT UnResFriAdo původně napsal:

it's easy to use
easy to find
no recoil at all
thats why

Not enough details. My post explains it better.

[Soba of Pulaski]

arachmigo původně napsal:

Everyone keeps whining that it's a "noob-gun" even though it's outclassed by several other AR's statistically. What's up with that?

The Maple Strike is based on the C7A1 which is the Canadian variant of the Colt AR-15 [M16A1 Model]

[Colonel Crossfire]

Most guns in this game are realitively easy to use. The only reason the maplestrike gets flakk for being a "noob gun" is that it's the pretty much the best all around gun in the game.


The gun deserving of the title is the shadowstalker on any difficulty besides easy.

[Claudia]

thechief2 původně napsal:

arachmigo původně napsal:

Everyone keeps whining that it's a "noob-gun" even though it's outclassed by several other AR's statistically. What's up with that?

The Maple Strike is based on the C7A1 which is the Canadian variant of the Colt AR-15 [M16A1 Model]

Maplestrike = Diemaco C7A2
Eaglefire = Colt M4 Carbine
Zubeknakov = AKM

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TheCanadianApp1e původně napsal:

COT UnResFriAdo původně napsal:

it's easy to use
easy to find
no recoil at all
thats why

Not enough details. My post explains it better.

Zubek destroys at close quarters