The matamorez is a terrible sniper - And it's not even a sniper.

[jacum]

I have heard alot of people call the matamorez a great sniper. It's terrible.

1. The premise of a sniper is to be able to shoot them while still being out of their field of vision. Let's take the timberwolf for comparison: 300 meters is enough away for them to have a hard time seeing you. And when they do see you, they have already taken the shot. But the matamorez? 150 meters. Without ghille suit, and a great sniper nest you're high likely gonna get seen. And if you're a sniper, then the last thing you wanna do, is get seen.

2. It can't headshot. If you're trying to kill a person, and you hit them in the head then they're gonna be gone pretty quickly. They can also see you pretty quickly, because of the light and sound. Snipers can headshot.

3. It's not even a sniper. It's a assault rifle. But it's a pretty nice assault rifle. To prove this: No snipers in the game have auto. If they did they would be OP. It has an extremely big magazine, and it has a box. Again if snipers had this, they would be OP. I do get why people get the wrong idea, and think that this is a sniper. It's as big as a sniper, and uses high caliber ammunition.

4. It's quite impractical. It's extremely rare, it uses high caliber ammunition, and is very big. The magazines are also pretty big, and use a small amount of ammunition. It would be smarter to use an assault rifle that can hold ranger or military drums.

Let me know what you think. Personally i would recomend using the ekho, grizzly or timberwolf. Depends on the ammo. But let's be serious: Snipers are only useful on creative RP servers.

[Colonel Crossfire]

I've been saying it's an objectively terrible gun for years now. I am glad someone else actually realized it.


But be warned, the community will ♥♥♥♥ on you for saying this. I know from experience.

[[4BRS] OakNacht]

Originally posted by Colonel Crossfire:

I've been saying it's an objectively terrible gun for years now. I am glad someone else actually realized it.


But be warned, the community will ♥♥♥♥ on you for saying this. I know from experience.

^^^ so true. Best of luck friend.


I've had snipers come handy a couple of times in survival. Sabertooth or Snayperskya is better all around though for most cases.

[shadow realm]

Imo it's a mixup of an assault rifle and a sniper, it is a great weapon either way, besides, rarity doesn't make a weapon better or worse.

[Colonel Crossfire]

Originally posted by 4BRS OakNacht:

Originally posted by Colonel Crossfire:

I've been saying it's an objectively terrible gun for years now. I am glad someone else actually realized it.


But be warned, the community will ♥♥♥♥ on you for saying this. I know from experience.

^^^ so true. Best of luck friend.


I've had snipers come handy a couple of times in survival. Sabertooth or Snayperskya is better all around though for most cases.

Sniper Rifles are useless in general. They require space, constant repairing, decent optics, incredibly rare ammo, and have a high skill floor.

All of this for a weapon that gets countered by wearing a freaking helmet that you can got from walking to the nearest military outpost and hotkeying some dressing you got from salvaging the contents of the nearby clothes store.


GG.

[Deus Ex Machina]

1. The premise of a nsiper is accurate fire with high stopping power.
2. Pretty sure it can.
3. True, I would class it as more of a DMR, with the inetnt to get comparebly close and personal. And by the way, its is literally classed as an AR in game.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1380455024
4. Depends on your use case. Still ha sbgetter damage to ARs, so its good if you are confident whith your shots and/or get the jump on someone.

[Frick]

I find the matamorez as a good marksmen rifle.

[Sir Pineapple]

I'd consider it more of a DMR rather than a sniper. It just doesn't have the range of one. But also, as Deus Ex Machina said

Originally posted by Deus Ex Machina:

its is literally classed as an AR in game.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1380455024

[Inline-4]

Originally posted by bananalars:

I have heard alot of people call the matamorez a great sniper. It's terrible.

1. The premise of a sniper is to be able to shoot them while still being out of their field of vision. Let's take the timberwolf for comparison: 300 meters is enough away for them to have a hard time seeing you. And when they do see you, they have already taken the shot. But the matamorez? 150 meters. Without ghille suit, and a great sniper nest you're high likely gonna get seen. And if you're a sniper, then the last thing you wanna do, is get seen.

2. It can't headshot. If you're trying to kill a person, and you hit them in the head then they're gonna be gone pretty quickly. They can also see you pretty quickly, because of the light and sound. Snipers can headshot.

3. It's not even a sniper. It's a assault rifle. But it's a pretty nice assault rifle. To prove this: No snipers in the game have auto. If they did they would be OP. It has an extremely big magazine, and it has a box. Again if snipers had this, they would be OP. I do get why people get the wrong idea, and think that this is a sniper. It's as big as a sniper, and uses high caliber ammunition.

4. It's quite impractical. It's extremely rare, it uses high caliber ammunition, and is very big. The magazines are also pretty big, and use a small amount of ammunition. It would be smarter to use an assault rifle that can hold ranger or military drums.

Let me know what you think. Personally i would recomend using the ekho, grizzly or timberwolf. Depends on the ammo. But let's be serious: Snipers are only useful on creative RP servers.

This was my Go to gun before the Russia update. It used to be an actually good sniper with a short range. Now its just an assault rifle that scarfs down your high cal ranger ammo :(

[MoltonMontro]

Originally posted by bananalars:

Snipers can headshot.

All weapons can headshot. The Matamorez is still going to kill someone with a hat just as much as an actual sniper rifle would, too, although it has better RPS.

Originally posted by bananalars:

To prove this: No snipers in the game have auto.

You're not wrong, and it's not a sniper rifle, but this logic is incredibly questionable.

Originally posted by bananalars:

I do get why people get the wrong idea, and think that this is a sniper. It's as big as a sniper, and uses high caliber ammunition.

The reason people think this is because not only is it based on a "sniper rifle," it also used to be a sniper rifle.

Originally posted by bananalars:

The magazines are also pretty big, and use a small amount of ammunition.

They technically hold more ammunition than most magazine attachments, and that's even excluding those where only the Matamorez Box would be larger and some of the obvious things like a Matamorez holding more ammo than a Rocket Launcher. I assume when you say that the magazines are "pretty big" you mean their inventory size, because the way you worded this sounds like a disadvantage. They take up just as much space as any other magazine, being a 1x1 or a 2x1, and are pretty efficient about it tbh.

If you wanted to list a disadvantage I would've gone back to range. You're not wrong that the Matamorez isn't a sniper rifle and its usability can be questionable at times, but your reasoning that led you here confuses me.

Now, if you did go back to range, I wouldn't use the argument of "they can't see me from 300 m" either. To start, ghillies really aren't that useful. They only work well at night, and even then you're relying on other players to have their graphic settings actually turned up since grass isn't forced. People really aren't worried about being 300 m away so they won't be seen. Range isn't important like that to people as far as I'm aware.

Originally posted by Oxygen Thief:

Did you know that the crazed patient npc is approximately 6.44feet or 1.9meters tall making a small unturned map approximately .546 miles or .88 kilometers long

Did you know that the size of the maps has always been public information ever since Unturned 3 was released, and so small maps are actually 1024 m (1.024 km) long?

I boo you terribly so. Boo.

[yarrrr]

Originally posted by Colonel Crossfire:

I've been saying it's an objectively terrible gun for years now. I am glad someone else actually realized it.


But be warned, the community will ♥♥♥♥ on you for saying this. I know from experience.

in other words "The Matamorez isn't even a sniper we all know this"

but then people come back with "b-but in real life the VSS Vintorez is a sniper rifle!"

[Kukoy]

yh i dont actually think many people use it though. But it is very good for raiding

Look, if its not sportshot, zubeknakov or nelson then its not worth picking up

I just realised you reccomended me the bolt action grizzlies. They r pretty bad too but hey then again i cant expect every gun to be on the level of nelson and the sportshot

[strumful emotional]

the matamorez is an marksman RIFLE in a nutshell.

[RainOfPain125]

The matamorez isn't a sniper, it's an Assault Rifle with bad range.

It has pros and cons. Very excellent at it's purpose - not at being a Sniper

[m4djoker]

The only time I got headshotted by a sniper, was when I was standing still cutting a tree.

The only times when I was able to headshot a player with a sniper, was when they were sorting their inventory or generally standing still like a hobo.

If you are aware of the sniper and you start moving freneticly as the game allows you to do (with exercise and parkour maxed) its very hard for any sniper to even hit, immagine headshotting you.

Snipers (ment as people with a bolt action long range rifle with scope) are really not a threat in active combat (where players are aware of eachoter). They are good for ambushes yes, but in a direct pvp AR's are way better in every single way.

That said, the mata is an AR and also a very good one, with its damage, rof and recoil. That's why it's so rare and hard to maintain.
I personally like it a lot as it is.

Edit: It's obvious that I'm speaking of normal mode, where shooting is not that simple like on easy. Also I kept the grizzly out of this equation on purpose since that with its semi automatic fire mode, its more like "the exception that confirms the rule".

[GamendeStino]

Magazines aren't that bad actually.

It fits 17 bullets in a 1x1 space, the biggest amount i can think of right now, beating all snipers (sabertooth has 10), most pistols (only cobra with 20 has more) and shotguns (bluntforce, determinator and quadbarrel has 8). I mean, compare that with a masterkey which uses 1 slot per 2 shots, or a shadowstalker with just one shot/slot and its doing pretty well.
Granted, the MK2 has 20 shots in a mag as well. But due to the fact that it is impossible to get legit on any map exept russia, and even in Russia its a pain in the ass to get it, as well as that you only have one mag and no way to legit refill it (exept finding someone else who did the whole questline), i suppose i can leave that out of the equation

Or it fits 36 bullets in a 1x2 space, beating the rocket launcher and bows obviously :P, the ever-used nailgun (20), the even-more-ever-used paintball gun (35), other AR's (20, 30 or 35, not counting drums because those are 2x2,), going only behind the cobra again (40) and most carbines, but not all (viper: 25, empire: 27, honeybadger: 30, as just seen). Only more ammo/inv space effective guns are the maschinengewehr (42), bulldog (45), peacemaker, and yuri (64)

An attentive reader might have figured out already that i left out the drums, LMG's, Fury, Bane and Calling Card. That is because those are all 2x2, and im comparing it with mags of the same size.

If i missed something, please feel free to correct me tho
I don't know the new irish guns for example