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Dank Matter Jan 16, 2022 @ 8:57am
Light spam
Are these people dying and on chemo or something? Do they need rep fast?

Ubi should implement a system that punishes spamming attacks. For example every consecutive light eats more and more stam etc.
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Oath Ooze Beer Jan 16, 2022 @ 9:57am 
Light attacks already cost more stamina then heavy attacks. There are lots of disadvantages for light attacks.

Every light light chain can be dodged out of, therefore punishable with a dodge attack or even sometimes with a gb (hitokiri's light finisher for example) Parry a light rewards you with a heavy opener which deals lots of damage and at the same time let's you get into your chain. If you can't parry them there are still some ways to punish light spam. Some of them are character specific and some of them are universal. I'll give some examples for you so you can at least counter these players. Aramusha can block blockade light chains, every hero with a dodge attack can dodge attack light attack etc.

Lights are already pretty easy to avoid and furher more nerfs to them would make light attack useless in every level of gameplay. They're already mostly useless in high levels so I don't think we need anymore nerfs to them.
Last edited by Oath Ooze Beer; Jan 16, 2022 @ 9:57am
Neo Jan 16, 2022 @ 11:13am 
skill issue
Emjay Jan 16, 2022 @ 11:42am 
It's a case of having reflexes or playing a cheese character like Aramusha who can just press a button to block whatever and get a free hit.

If you can't block/parry with reflexes, play a cheese character. Aramusha, Shyokin and Conqueror come to mind although they are likely others.

Warlord and Valkyrie don't quite count as they have a set up time and can't be pressed for immediate protection. Otherwise they can be useful here.
Neo Jan 16, 2022 @ 12:05pm 
Originally posted by Emjay:
It's a case of having reflexes or playing a cheese character like Aramusha who can just press a button to block whatever and get a free hit.

If you can't block/parry with reflexes, play a cheese character. Aramusha, Shyokin and Conqueror come to mind although they are likely others.

Warlord and Valkyrie don't quite count as they have a set up time and can't be pressed for immediate protection. Otherwise they can be useful here.
every full block has a windup, not just warlord and valk

goofy
Viable_Golem4375 Jan 16, 2022 @ 6:03pm 
They did implement a system to punish light spammers, it's called parrying.
Dinoman Jan 16, 2022 @ 6:10pm 
Originally posted by Emjay:
If you can't block/parry with reflexes

So since the game came out, all the way up to the last time I played about a year ago, Orochi's light attacks literally moved faster than even someone with the reflexes of a cat could process. It was impossible to react to them before the attack would land, they were that fast. The only way to block them was to already be aiming the way the orochi was by pure luck.

Orochi wasn't the only offender, but was the worst of the bunch. Practically all assassins (as well as some Hybrids such as the Nobuchi) had light attacks that were almost impossible to react to, if not an outright impossibility. So unless you're telling me their light attacks got slowed down significantly, there is literally no such thing as blocking or parrying light attacks from a "light" character unless you're aiming the same way they are by pure luck.
Neo Jan 16, 2022 @ 6:30pm 
Originally posted by Dinoman:
Originally posted by Emjay:
If you can't block/parry with reflexes

So since the game came out, all the way up to the last time I played about a year ago, Orochi's light attacks literally moved faster than even someone with the reflexes of a cat could process. It was impossible to react to them before the attack would land, they were that fast. The only way to block them was to already be aiming the way the orochi was by pure luck.

Orochi wasn't the only offender, but was the worst of the bunch. Practically all assassins (as well as some Hybrids such as the Nobuchi) had light attacks that were almost impossible to react to, if not an outright impossibility. So unless you're telling me their light attacks got slowed down significantly, there is literally no such thing as blocking or parrying light attacks from a "light" character unless you're aiming the same way they are by pure luck.
unless you have some sorta disability, handicap, or 2000ms reflexes, then there isn't much of an excuse. every character has the same speed lights now aswell. "light" characters have the same light attack speed as "heavy" characters

what game are you talking about?
Spooky7.62 Jan 16, 2022 @ 6:32pm 
Originally posted by Dank Matter:
Are these people dying and on chemo or something? Do they need rep fast?

Ubi should implement a system that punishes spamming attacks. For example every consecutive light eats more and more stam etc.
Why not just block?
Nathaniel Flint Jan 17, 2022 @ 12:46am 
Son, if you got issues with that stuff, sorry but youre in the wrong game.

Times where FH was somewhat brain/skill based are long over.
Oath Ooze Beer Jan 17, 2022 @ 4:42am 
Originally posted by Nathaniel Flint:
Son, if you got issues with that stuff, sorry but youre in the wrong game.

Times where FH was somewhat brain/skill based are long over.
No?
Ash Jan 17, 2022 @ 1:39pm 
Originally posted by Mr.IAmGodAndAll-knowing:
Originally posted by Nathaniel Flint:
Son, if you got issues with that stuff, sorry but youre in the wrong game.

Times where FH was somewhat brain/skill based are long over.
No?
Reminder, we have current shinobi and shug in the game.
Viable_Golem4375 Jan 17, 2022 @ 1:45pm 
Originally posted by Ash:
Originally posted by Mr.IAmGodAndAll-knowing:
No?
Reminder, we have current shinobi and shug in the game.

There was also a time that we had a hero who could get GBs just by blocking so keep that in mind lmao.
shugo eats lights for breakfast and serves big bonks
Ash Jan 17, 2022 @ 2:05pm 
Originally posted by Viable_Golem4375:
Originally posted by Ash:
Reminder, we have current shinobi and shug in the game.

There was also a time that we had a hero who could get GBs just by blocking so keep that in mind lmao.
*Flashbacks of cent infinite wallsplat, pk/glad/valk revenge infinite stunlock, unlock tech on nobushi and warden OHK bug. And warden's vortex.*
Last edited by Ash; Jan 17, 2022 @ 2:06pm
Foster Jan 17, 2022 @ 8:33pm 
Originally posted by Ash:
Originally posted by Mr.IAmGodAndAll-knowing:
No?
Reminder, we have current shinobi and shug in the game.
Times have been much much worse my friend, times have been much worse.
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