was raider nerfed now?

[Hex:Feet]

I had a break from the game so I dont know the meta anymore. I was told raider will get a nerf on the 9th soooo was he nerfed now? Is he still somewhat viable?

[NeloDante]

You take the time to come here to ask, you could have taken a look yourself at the patch notes.

The answer is yes.

[Viable_Golem4375]

Raider's still really good, he just can't delete people in 5 seconds anymore by pushing random buttons.

[Spooki Spoopi]

引用自 Viable_Golem4375：

Raider's still really good, he just can't delete people in 5 seconds anymore by pushing random buttons.

Facts, it's astonishing that people were somehow defending that...

[Viable_Golem4375]

引用自 Spooki Spoopi：

引用自 Viable_Golem4375：

Raider's still really good, he just can't delete people in 5 seconds anymore by pushing random buttons.

Facts, it's astonishing that people were somehow defending that...

I'll never understand the people who like ridiculous damage values, it makes fights too short which is boring.

[Spooki Spoopi]

引用自 Viable_Golem4375：

引用自 Spooki Spoopi：

Facts, it's astonishing that people were somehow defending that...

I'll never understand the people who like ridiculous damage values, it makes fights too short which is boring.

Yeep, though the funniest part is that the majority try to call themselves "cOmPetItiVE" even though there's no way anyone in their right mind would support this game as it is, going competitive. The worst part, is that they basically tried to copy paste the fighting style of Smash and shove it into a 3D environment. Now we have this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Viable_Golem4375]

引用自 Spooki Spoopi：

引用自 Viable_Golem4375：

I'll never understand the people who like ridiculous damage values, it makes fights too short which is boring.

Yeep, though the funniest part is that the majority try to call themselves "cOmPetItiVE" even though there's no way anyone in their right mind would support this game as it is, going competitive. The worst part, is that they basically tried to copy paste the fighting style of Smash and shove it into a 3D environment. Now we have this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Not understanding the comparison between this and smash, though I've barely even played that so eh. Currently I think the game is actually in an ok spot now that every match isn't 4 Raider's/Orochi's minimum camped out at the top of the scoreboard.

[Revinaer]

引用自 Viable_Golem4375：

Raider's still really good, he just can't delete people in 5 seconds anymore by pushing random buttons.

that was too little nerf for a brain***** char the best nerf should be - making feint top light end of the mix-up insted making endless combo

[Viable_Golem4375]

引用自 Revinaer：

引用自 Viable_Golem4375：

Raider's still really good, he just can't delete people in 5 seconds anymore by pushing random buttons.

that was too little nerf for a brain***** char the best nerf should be - making feint top light end of the mix-up insted making endless combo

Move your mouse and block. It's not Raider's fault you got hit by the same feint 7 times in a row.

[Ash]

引用自 Viable_Golem4375：

引用自 Spooki Spoopi：

Yeep, though the funniest part is that the majority try to call themselves "cOmPetItiVE" even though there's no way anyone in their right mind would support this game as it is, going competitive. The worst part, is that they basically tried to copy paste the fighting style of Smash and shove it into a 3D environment. Now we have this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Not understanding the comparison between this and smash, though I've barely even played that so eh. Currently I think the game is actually in an ok spot now that every match isn't 4 Raider's/Orochi's minimum camped out at the top of the scoreboard.

Maybe he mean each rework devs do becoming more and more "safe" and somewhat not-requiring-a-lot-thinking. And I kinda can understand frustration, imagine playing warden and trying to predict enemy interrupt, empty dodge, delayed dodge attack, buffered dodge attack, dodge into roll, e.t.c. and playing raider or shugo. Or playing shinobi, yoloing people with unpunishable forward dodge bash.

[Viable_Golem4375]

引用自 Ash：

引用自 Viable_Golem4375：

Not understanding the comparison between this and smash, though I've barely even played that so eh. Currently I think the game is actually in an ok spot now that every match isn't 4 Raider's/Orochi's minimum camped out at the top of the scoreboard.

Maybe he mean each rework devs do becoming more and more "safe" and somewhat not-requiring-a-lot-thinking. And I kinda can understand frustration, imagine playing warden and trying to predict enemy interrupt, empty dodge, delayed dodge attack, buffered dodge attack, dodge into roll, e.t.c. and playing raider or shugo. Or playing shinobi, yoloing people with unpunishable forward dodge bash.

Shinobi is a different story considering there is a 100% chance that his current state was unintentional (pretty sure Ubi didn't give him totally non-punishable attacks on purpose. I hope.)

[Ash]

引用自 Viable_Golem4375：

引用自 Ash：

Maybe he mean each rework devs do becoming more and more "safe" and somewhat not-requiring-a-lot-thinking. And I kinda can understand frustration, imagine playing warden and trying to predict enemy interrupt, empty dodge, delayed dodge attack, buffered dodge attack, dodge into roll, e.t.c. and playing raider or shugo. Or playing shinobi, yoloing people with unpunishable forward dodge bash.

Shinobi is a different story considering there is a 100% chance that his current state was unintentional (pretty sure Ubi didn't give him totally non-punishable attacks on purpose. I hope.)

I want to believe as well. But people who are responsible for a balancing decisions in FH, known for their decisions being questionable, at least.

[Viable_Golem4375]

引用自 Ash：

引用自 Viable_Golem4375：

Shinobi is a different story considering there is a 100% chance that his current state was unintentional (pretty sure Ubi didn't give him totally non-punishable attacks on purpose. I hope.)

I want to believe as well. But people who are responsible for a balancing decisions in FH, known for their decisions being questionable, at least.

I suppose we'll see what the devs are thinking next patch.

[DwarvenFury]

引用自 Spooki Spoopi：

引用自 Viable_Golem4375：

I'll never understand the people who like ridiculous damage values, it makes fights too short which is boring.

Yeep, though the funniest part is that the majority try to call themselves "cOmPetItiVE" even though there's no way anyone in their right mind would support this game as it is, going competitive. The worst part, is that they basically tried to copy paste the fighting style of Smash and shove it into a 3D environment. Now we have this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Unfortunately, there's way too many ways to cheese in this game..and when hundreds and thousands of dollars are on the line...people are going to cheese. Remember there was a tournament gameplay with a nobushi or something and they were exploiting a bug or a cheese move during the tournament and the casters had to act like it was a super pro thing? lol That was painful to watch.

[Emjay]

I've been enjoying the raider lately tbh and the nerf is a good thing. They can still be a nightmare which may still be a bit too much though.

The ease of mixing lights, heavies and guard breaks, all while being able to initiate the same chain with ease is a little troubling for me still.

Berzerker for example is a character built on the idea of constant attacks, but the Raider surpasses them with how easy they can just mix attacks and catch people off guard. They also live longer when you screw up, I presume that's higher health but I don't know the stats so can't confirm.

Raider is still good fun though, I just kill a lot easier with them than any other Viking hero at the moment.

[Foster]

Yes he was nerfed but his rework was really good and brought new life into him, it also made him very powerful.
He definitely needed those values reduced, and honestly as a Raider main prior to the rework and still after, he could probably even do with a tad more damage reduction on his attacks.
Still really fun to play and still really good but now you have to actually play the game instead of being allowed to go monke