This game is a broken mess...

[Hobosaurus]

-Tomb Raisers are just overpowered, you literally can't die with a Prowling Shadow. There's no reason to play any other class right now.

-The Shadow Hunter's ultimate skill works half the time. It either immediatly fires into nothingness once you charge or it just doesn't do any damage.

-The Gunslinger can get stuck in his M2 charge animation. Once you're stuck, you have to kill yourself or log back in, there's no other way to fix it. This is apparently due to a config file bug. Really?

-Speaking of not doing any damage, don't play the ranged classes. If you don't aim straight down the middle, even if you hit the enemy, you won't do any damage. Doesn't help that every single enemy in the game likes to strafe to the right for some reason.

-Ranged classes ♥♥♥♥ing suck. The Fae Trickster is basically useless unless you cheese your way through every dungeon. Spikes, fire, lava, tight corridors and enemies with broken hitboxes make keeping your passive up literally impossible. Also, a boss with a flame aura means you don't get to have your passive at all. Good game design right there.

-Rubberbanding. I'll be flying across a sea biome only to find myself at the bottom of the sea a second after. Sure.

-A badge for logging in every day for 90 consecutive days? They should make a badge for waiting in the logging screen for 90 days total, that's actually possible.

There's a lot more, but I'm not going to list them all or I'd be here all day. I can't ♥♥♥♥ing believe this game is "out of beta". A lot of the problems this game has have been there for a long time and nothing has been done to fix them. Welp, it's been fun while it lasted. Might come back once it's actually out of beta.

[Azohan]

And as you can see here, people, is someone who doesn't know how to play a game or how game works because he/she wants everything to b handed in the easiest way possible 'cause he/she never had any work in his/her life before so the only thing they know how to do right is complaint.

[Maru]

LOl i have the same problem with Shadow Hunter too that shoots automatically when u press 2
Tomb raisers are rly ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ easy op class to play bc u can spam the minions and go afk
i also have a problem with Shadow hunter that i hit a monster but it doesnt get dmg at all like i missed him but i didnt. or in chat sometimes u cant cancel that what u wrote so many little bugs so annoying

[-itzAldepha-]

before u blame for broken hitbox , probablly that cause by lagging ?

[mylar536]

It's new, give it time.
Enjoy the craziness while it lasts.

I'll agree with you on the power difference between Tomb Raiser and Gunslinger though... WOW.

I started playing the game a few days ago, after a few days (prolly ~15 hours played time) my gunslinger was level 9 and I was all excited because I had earned enough cubits to grab the tomb raiser...

I was thinking, I'll get it and play a bit, but i'll have to come back to my awesome gunslinger, he is so close to getting to use the uber portals...

Three hours later my new tomb raiser had passed him up and was a fresh level 10 soloing U1 castle bosses and picking up shadow gear.

Holy.

[Hobosaurus]

Originally posted by mylar536:

It's new, give it time.
Enjoy the craziness while it lasts.

I'll agree with you on the power difference between Tomb Raiser and Gunslinger though... WOW.

I started playing the game a few days ago, after a few days (prolly ~15 hours played time) my gunslinger was level 9 and I was all excited because I had earned enough cubits to grab the tomb raiser...

I was thinking, I'll get it and play a bit, but i'll have to come back to my awesome gunslinger, he is so close to getting to use the uber portals...

Three hours later my new tomb raiser had passed him up and was a fresh level 10 soloing U1 castle bosses and picking up shadow gear.

Holy.

It's new on Steam, but this game has been out for a while. I remember when they first advertised it when I was playing Rift.

Yeah, fun thing is the Tomb Raiser was buffed at some point, wonder what it was like before.

[Schrödinger]

Flame aura doesn't affect the Fae Tricksters passive, I've checked when it crossed my mind while leveling. Otherwise, using him seems simple, just use blink then wail on enemys from a distance, then repeat, easy. Same with in Shadow Areans, easy as hell.

Hitting Tab to enter build mode clears the jammed shot for the gunslinger, least in my experience.

As for the rubberbanding, lol it's annoying when it happens. Doesn't happen too often for me though.

And the summoner, haven't played him, but I know my dracolyte is extremely hard to kill with Prowling Shadow.

[Dellie]

Lol, wtf. I main Fae, and that doesn't happen to me at all. Yes there are bosses w/ a burning buff, but that's why there is the 2 skill.. + if you have the Invunerblity emblem, it's not even a problem. Even w/o the Invunerblity emblem, I can solo u5 SA easily on any map. Even the one w/ flamethrowers and lava in the middle. Same goes for u6 dungeons for challenges. I can't do solo u6 SA yet, because i'm on lv. 37. If you say ranged classes are ♥♥♥♥, learn how to aim. Also, don't be calling them ♥♥♥♥, if it's not your play style. Overall, it just comes down to learning how to aim your skillshots or your M1.

[Hobosaurus]

Originally posted by Spectre Night:

Flame aura doesn't affect the Fae Tricksters passive, I've checked when it crossed my mind while leveling. Otherwise, using him seems simple, just use blink then wail on enemys from a distance, then repeat, easy. Same with in Shadow Areans, easy as hell.

Hitting Tab to enter build mode clears the jammed shot for the gunslinger, least in my experience.

As for the rubberbanding, lol it's annoying when it happens. Doesn't happen too often for me though.

And the summoner, haven't played him, but I know my dracolyte is extremely hard to kill with Prowling Shadow.

Last time I used my Fae Trickster against a boss with flame aura, my passive was down for the entire fight. Might have been fixed since then but I highly doubt it.

As for the Gunslinger glitch, pressing tab didn't fix it for me, which is why I asked in the global chat for help. Someone told me how to fix it by messing around with the control mapping, but it's a temporary fix.

[Lackadaisy]

Can confirm Gunslinger has some bugs to it. I find myself getting stuck in the M2 animation and unable to shoot, but switching to build mode and back usually clears it up. None-the-less it's annoying.

Also after using Gunslinger's ultimate, sometimes you get stuck in a "walking speed" bug where you can't move at a normal pace. It's like you're walking or something, even when you mount up. Being so squishy, this can cause death quickly.

I'd agree that while gunslinger has decent DPS, that's only if you actually continually hit your targets. Spending most of my time in the air (cuz slow fall saves your butt and you're really squishy) can make hitting moving targets a difficult challenge.

Tomb Raiser all the way. Nothing else needed to OP this game.

[Ralifur]

1. Its not just tomb raisers. in high end gear its pretty much every single class which has an overpowered ability or possibility to do everything solo as well as being pretty much unkillable if u build your gear right.

2. This one I agree with. its annoying as hell when u loose ur shot. best way to avoid this is stopping your left mouse shots then prepare for the big one but speaking in a dpsers seat then this is a dps loss and one that some ppl care about. Tho its the only way at the moment.

3. Im a closed beta player and I dont understand why this one still hasnt been fixed.

4. This is a lag issue. I take it you are european. The European servers are currently located in the US as well. I am sitting with around 200 ping all the time and have the same issue as you. I doubt any of the US folk has it as bad tho.

5. No, ranged classes does not suck.

Shadow hunter - has an infinite stunlock if u have enough energy regen.
Boomeranger - has its chickens as well as quite proper damage even with the bow and with proper boomerang management u can do endless kiting.
Ice Sage - is possibly one of the best supports in the game with its freeze increasing dmg done by all sources to the mob and built right you can spam right mouse button until ur fingers die.
Pirate captain - has a ridiculous amount of survival as well as good decoy management. Have soloed a couple of u6 shadow arenas with one myself but it cannot be recommended due to taking too long time but with proper decoy management it is more than possible.
Fae trickster - I hate playing this class. Its so boring but it packs quite a punch. As far i heard it got nerfed but i can still solo quite well on it as well with proper mirror image management and its 1 does insane dmg when properly geared too.

Didnt mention the tomb raiser as you yourself pointed out its quite strong but do keep in mind its a ranged minion manager and therefore fits under the ranged classes category. :-)

I personally feel the gunslinger is weak and could use some more somehow tho.

Anyway this all leads to an experience issue rather than an underpowered issue. :-)

6. Rubberbanding hasnt been that much of an issue lately. atleast not for me. I get it occassionally but its so little it barely bothers me anymore. If you are experiencing it alot I highly doubt its troves fault in this case else I would be having it myself.

7. Ive seen badges like these in plenty of free mmos as it is. It aint an uncommon thing. and yeah they go even beyond 90 days in those and award bigger things. You can also get wings easier than having to rely on a badge anyway. Its just a skin in the end so 90 days for a new cosmetic is okay. And if its for the mastery then it aint that hard to hit a 100 mastery ranking without paying a dime. :-) Anything above doesnt really give you any significant bonuses.


I didnt write all this to blame you or try to spite you in any way and hopefully this solves some of the things you listed as a problem.
I like the game but i also have alot of things i could list that i find rather silly at the moment.

oh and I play a shadow hunter mainly in full radiant gear so your number 5 point was the one that kinda bothered me the most and got me to write this up. Only the gunslinger is a piece of trash in my oppinion. :-)

[Dellie]

Originally posted by Instinktive:

Originally posted by GuiltyHaiku:

Lol, wtf. I main Fae, and that doesn't happen to me at all. Yes there are bosses w/ a burning buff, but that's why there is the 2 skill.. + if you have the Invunerblity emblem, it's not even a problem. Even w/o the Invunerblity emblem, I can solo u5 SA easily on any map. Even the one w/ flamethrowers and lava in the middle. Same goes for u6 dungeons for challenges. I can't do solo u6 SA yet, because i'm on lv. 37. If you say ranged classes are ♥♥♥♥, learn how to aim. Also, don't be calling them ♥♥♥♥, if it's not your play style. Overall, it just comes down to learning how to aim your skillshots or your M1.

Talkin to me?

Also pressing tab always fixes the glitch for me when it does appear.

Nah, just replying to the main post. The only thing I would agree with is Tomb raiser being op. The rest is just all about aimming lmao. Rubberbanding only occurs if you lag yourself. Fae is considerably one of the best single target dps and he said it was useless, because of spikes/lava, whatever. For Fae, it's all about positioning and knowing how to aim.

[76561198039711373]

Originally posted by Tri-Edge:

And as you can see here, people, is someone who doesn't know how to play a game or how game works because he/she wants everything to b handed in the easiest way possible 'cause he/she never had any work in his/her life before so the only thing they know how to do right is complaint.

so i guess youre playing as tombraider and youre one of the persons who you described in your anwser... the way you insult Hobosaurus for his complains about the game is really a shame. I reported you and hope that people like you, who are not able to dicuss Problems in a progressiveway, get banned from this forum.

[Hobosaurus]

Originally posted by GuiltyHaiku:

Lol, wtf. I main Fae, and that doesn't happen to me at all. Yes there are bosses w/ a burning buff, but that's why there is the 2 skill.. + if you have the Invunerblity emblem, it's not even a problem. Even w/o the Invunerblity emblem, I can solo u5 SA easily on any map. Even the one w/ flamethrowers and lava in the middle. Same goes for u6 dungeons for challenges. I can't do solo u6 SA yet, because i'm on lv. 37. If you say ranged classes are ♥♥♥♥, learn how to aim. Also, don't be calling them ♥♥♥♥, if it's not your play style. Overall, it just comes down to learning how to aim your skillshots or your M1.

You're kidding, right? The burning aura only targets the players who attack the boss, your illusion doesn't protect you from it. A quick look at the wiki tells me the Fae Trickster aura getting deactivated by it has been fixed however, which is a good thing.

Ranged classes are ♥♥♥♥, by the way. Even if you hit mobs, you deal no damage half of the time. The hitboxes are simply broken. Imagine this, you're playing TF2, you shoot someone straight in the head, blood appears and they keep going, unharmed. This is the problem with ranged classes in Trove.

[Dellie]

Originally posted by Ralifur:

1. Its not just tomb raisers. in high end gear its pretty much every single class which has an overpowered ability or possibility to do everything solo as well as being pretty much unkillable if u build your gear right.

2. This one I agree with. its annoying as hell when u loose ur shot. best way to avoid this is stopping your left mouse shots then prepare for the big one but speaking in a dpsers seat then this is a dps loss and one that some ppl care about. Tho its the only way at the moment.

3. Im a closed beta player and I dont understand why this one still hasnt been fixed.

4. This is a lag issue. I take it you are european. The European servers are currently located in the US as well. I am sitting with around 200 ping all the time and have the same issue as you. I doubt any of the US folk has it as bad tho.

5. No, ranged classes does not suck.

Shadow hunter - has an infinite stunlock if u have enough energy regen.
Boomeranger - has its chickens as well as quite proper damage even with the bow and with proper boomerang management u can do endless kiting.
Ice Sage - is possibly one of the best supports in the game with its freeze increasing dmg done by all sources to the mob and built right you can spam right mouse button until ur fingers die.
Pirate captain - has a ridiculous amount of survival as well as good decoy management. Have soloed a couple of u6 shadow arenas with one myself but it cannot be recommended due to taking too long time but with proper decoy management it is more than possible.
Fae trickster - I hate playing this class. Its so boring but it packs quite a punch. As far i heard it got nerfed but i can still solo quite well on it as well with proper mirror image management and its 1 does insane dmg when properly geared too.

Didnt mention the tomb raiser as you yourself pointed out its quite strong but do keep in mind its a ranged minion manager and therefore fits under the ranged classes category. :-)

I personally feel the gunslinger is weak and could use some more somehow tho.

Anyway this all leads to an experience issue rather than an underpowered issue. :-)

6. Rubberbanding hasnt been that much of an issue lately. atleast not for me. I get it occassionally but its so little it barely bothers me anymore. If you are experiencing it alot I highly doubt its troves fault in this case else I would be having it myself.

7. Ive seen badges like these in plenty of free mmos as it is. It aint an uncommon thing. and yeah they go even beyond 90 days in those and award bigger things. You can also get wings easier than having to rely on a badge anyway. Its just a skin in the end so 90 days for a new cosmetic is okay. And if its for the mastery then it aint that hard to hit a 100 mastery ranking without paying a dime. :-) Anything above doesnt really give you any significant bonuses.


I didnt write all this to blame you or try to spite you in any way and hopefully this solves some of the things you listed as a problem.
I like the game but i also have alot of things i could list that i find rather silly at the moment.

oh and I play a shadow hunter mainly in full radiant gear so your number 5 point was the one that kinda bothered me the most and got me to write this up. Only the gunslinger is a piece of trash in my oppinion. :-)

I agree, as much as I like SH though, I just suck with that class. xD Gunslinger is just easier for me to use. You made a big point though.

[Hobosaurus]

Originally posted by Ralifur:

1. Its not just tomb raisers. in high end gear its pretty much every single class which has an overpowered ability or possibility to do everything solo as well as being pretty much unkillable if u build your gear right.

2. This one I agree with. its annoying as hell when u loose ur shot. best way to avoid this is stopping your left mouse shots then prepare for the big one but speaking in a dpsers seat then this is a dps loss and one that some ppl care about. Tho its the only way at the moment.

3. Im a closed beta player and I dont understand why this one still hasnt been fixed.

4. This is a lag issue. I take it you are european. The European servers are currently located in the US as well. I am sitting with around 200 ping all the time and have the same issue as you. I doubt any of the US folk has it as bad tho.

5. No, ranged classes does not suck.

Shadow hunter - has an infinite stunlock if u have enough energy regen.
Boomeranger - has its chickens as well as quite proper damage even with the bow and with proper boomerang management u can do endless kiting.
Ice Sage - is possibly one of the best supports in the game with its freeze increasing dmg done by all sources to the mob and built right you can spam right mouse button until ur fingers die.
Pirate captain - has a ridiculous amount of survival as well as good decoy management. Have soloed a couple of u6 shadow arenas with one myself but it cannot be recommended due to taking too long time but with proper decoy management it is more than possible.
Fae trickster - I hate playing this class. Its so boring but it packs quite a punch. As far i heard it got nerfed but i can still solo quite well on it as well with proper mirror image management and its 1 does insane dmg when properly geared too.

Didnt mention the tomb raiser as you yourself pointed out its quite strong but do keep in mind its a ranged minion manager and therefore fits under the ranged classes category. :-)

I personally feel the gunslinger is weak and could use some more somehow tho.

Anyway this all leads to an experience issue rather than an underpowered issue. :-)

6. Rubberbanding hasnt been that much of an issue lately. atleast not for me. I get it occassionally but its so little it barely bothers me anymore. If you are experiencing it alot I highly doubt its troves fault in this case else I would be having it myself.

7. Ive seen badges like these in plenty of free mmos as it is. It aint an uncommon thing. and yeah they go even beyond 90 days in those and award bigger things. You can also get wings easier than having to rely on a badge anyway. Its just a skin in the end so 90 days for a new cosmetic is okay. And if its for the mastery then it aint that hard to hit a 100 mastery ranking without paying a dime. :-) Anything above doesnt really give you any significant bonuses.


I didnt write all this to blame you or try to spite you in any way and hopefully this solves some of the things you listed as a problem.
I like the game but i also have alot of things i could list that i find rather silly at the moment.

oh and I play a shadow hunter mainly in full radiant gear so your number 5 point was the one that kinda bothered me the most and got me to write this up. Only the gunslinger is a piece of trash in my oppinion. :-)

I'm not saying ranged classed suck because of their damage output. I also played Shadow Hunter a lot, it's a great class. Broken hitboxes are what makes ranged classes suck. It's not much of a problem with the Shadow Hunter since your charged shots cover a wider range, but with a class like the Fae Trickster or the Gunslinger who rely a lot on their M1 to deal damage, it's like flipping a coin every time you shoot.