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Selenium Jul 11, 2018 @ 4:43am
Metamatter needs to be increased! And some other gripes about Geode...
Ok kinda ticked so putting there out there for the devs...
I am tired of not getting anywhere with the geode stuff.... I run and run for long periods of time, mine for long periods of time, get bombed by those stupid mortar plants and for what?

I finally collect the mats I need, I fill my shimmering reliquary (700 crystal one) make accelerite and a lodestar. I think finally after over a week of not getting anywhere I'm finally going to get a little metamatter.... NOPE
I put the reliquary in, use the lodestar and accelerite on it and I get 60 quirkstone... not even enough to remake the lodestar I used on it!

In games I am a turtle by nature, I like to build and gather... BUT THIS IS TOO MUCH!

Here is what I see in this update:
-Running through each tier of caves each time, lost of time wasted
-Having a limited amount of time in there overall, so run out of air and have to start at the beginning again, more time wasted.
-Getting lost and ending up backtracking and losing said time.
Dodging stupid PLANTS that want to kill me, which comsumes...air, not health but air which limits my time even more.
-Having to pick between checking out lairs for new eggs or continuing, if I check out a lair it might mean not getting to the tier I need cause of said stupid plants. (more egg grips coming up)
-Mind numbing slow mining! Waste more time not to mention makes me a target for the plants which reduces hit me and reduce my time.
-Eggs are a pain to find to start with, but then the 10 I did manage to get after a lot of searching end up giving me the same critters over and over... So no progress made after all the time wasted searching.
-Material cost of geode items is insane given how slow they are to collect.
-Tomes for the geode stuff are a joke, once a week? And each doesn't even give enough material to make junk items let alone anything useful. Example, gleamstone tome gives 35 gleamstone, 1 accelerite is 50, 1 building recipe is 50; the builderite tome gives 35 builderite, the vfx sparkles takes 160, the antigravity tower right next to it costs 40... not even enough once a week to make the antigrav! Which brings me to the next point..
-Crystallogy is too slow to level, especially given the item cost. I spend all those resources to make a gleamstone tome and it only gives me 1 yes 1 skill point! Thats crazy!
-Too many things are bound to a player. Critters, crystals, metamatter, lodestar, accelerite, eggs, etc, etc all bound. If the end items and the materials to make them are all bound it forces us to waste the time to collect the resources, then RNG comes along and cancels out our work by giving us junk we don't need (refer to above, my getting quirkstone instead of the metamatter i need).

Lower the cost of items and unbind some of it to make it more GAME like and less JOB like. I have played a lot of games and MMOs and this update in terms of grind is probably the worst I have ever seen. Limiting our time on each cave run and making us go the whole way each time is a new low in MMOs! I can only assume the staff didn't play though like a real player otherwise it wouldn't have come out this way... or it did on purpose to milk wallets, I don't know which. I get the game needs money to stay open but holy cow, the time wall in this patch is a real turn off. I can only assume all that work wasn't done with the intent of making players, even us turtles want to stop and run.

I don't need the game to be a job, it's a game. I am done with this update til something is changed!

A couple Suggestions:

-Let us teleport to the start of each tier; calculate the average time it takes to go through 1 tier of cave (which seems to be about 4 mins) and deduct that amount from our tank based on what tier we TP too.
GasRemaining = TotalGas - (Tier * TimeAverage)
So if we TP to T4 and assuming we have 20 mins of gas:
gas remaining = 20 - 4*4 = 4 mins remaining on arrival
It means we still have the same amount of time in the cave, but don't sit here doing nothing but running up and down cave tunnels!
And if you want put the TP option behind something like mastery, so can't tp to tier 2 til say geode mastery lvl 10, T2 til mastery 20, etc.

-Unbind some of the stuff like lodestars and accelerite. I understand you would be reluctant to unbind crystals, which would be really helpful given the large amounts needed. Let us be able to chose whether we want to farm materials or crystals, or both. But either way some of the grind can be helped by unbinding. Someone grinds crystals, buys/grinds other mats, makes stuff like tomes, lodestars etc, sells them and gets flux for other stuff they need. People buy said things like lodestars use them and MAYBE gets some metamatter now and then...
And didn;t have to gind for the crystals to get the reliquary
fill the reliquary
grind for the crystals for a lodestar
materials to make a lodestar
and then fail to get metamatter all on their own. It doesn't take away the stab of RNG, but it does help the bleeding some.

Summary Recap:
The time sink, high material cost then RNG hammer together are just too much!
Just throw us a bone here... just please make some of the teeth pulling go away!
I like the idea of geode, but not the implementation.
Last edited by Selenium; Jul 11, 2018 @ 4:50am
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Selenium Jul 13, 2018 @ 7:33pm 
addendum:
another suggestion: how about making those pesky mortar plants destructable, so we could destroy them and actually get some work done. Mining speed is slow, being pelted with those things doesn't help.

And another thought on the whole binding thing with geode. All those items being bound means that people that are willing to spend all the time grinding all of that stuff despite its painful slowness doesn't do the rest of us any good. We can't get ahead by buying many of the important things like crystals or the finished products made with them.
So we either grind and pull teeth or just don't play the content. Being able to use my flux to skip some of the grinding might help take some of the sting out.

Just some other stuff to consider...
Heck I don't know if anyone has read this or even cares, but after being mad the other morning, I needed to vent.
Wariat117 Jul 14, 2018 @ 10:00am 
Do it like me:
1. Pay 5m flux for crystal pinatas to get crystals and play parties (50+ pin party = 20k crystals)
2. Get stuck in T4 because I don't have enough crystals to upgrade gear (and I have just enough metamatter)


BTW
4k reliquary + lodestar = guaranteed 3 metamatter. (rarely 4 or 5)
mastery and quest reliquaries + lodestar = guaranteed 5 metamatter (nice troll right? you aren't supposed to open them during quest)

also critters are bugged, if you help critter and don't wait then you don't get box as reward (wasted GAS)
Last edited by Wariat117; Jul 14, 2018 @ 10:01am
King Loig Aug 7, 2018 @ 12:25pm 
Metamatter its maybe long for farm . for 4k relik and lodestar its easy or sure
for the bench its always 1 craft 1 skill for UP next . its not difficult
your choose or your craft mount and costume or you up your module

create 1 group for farm its not difficult
me i farm solo 90% of time
farm for fun step by step

the problem everyplayer need all now for free
every big update its every 3 mounth , play relax and invit your friend or random people for farm with you , and for crystal and up your mastery and all , throw pinata with other people.

AND now use potion for farm , open lesser and throw pinata
easy crystal
Shamanalah Aug 8, 2018 @ 9:06am 
every uncommon/rare companion you get, lvl it to 3 before loot collecting them

Uncommon lvl 3 = 4,500 crystals
Rare lvl 3 = 15,000 crystals

Also read what the reliquary says because the 4k one clearly states that to get guarantee metamatter you need to use a lodestar on it.

Originally posted by Wariat117:
Do it like me:
1. Pay 5m flux...

Yeah....... lol, nice tip

Here's another

Buy a lotto ticket and win it.
Wariat117 Aug 8, 2018 @ 3:58pm 
Originally posted by Shamanalah:
Originally posted by Wariat117:
Do it like me:
1. Pay 5m flux...

Yeah....... lol, nice tip

Here's another

Buy a lotto ticket and win it.
the price dropped already :V
also you get 10 pinatas each week if you actually play geode ;D (just 10-13 eggs is enough to qualift in contest)
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Date Posted: Jul 11, 2018 @ 4:43am
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