Wow first impressions - This aint what I was expecting!

[Lamoi]

So, I decided to pick this up as I really LOVE MoW:AS2, its fantastic, and I thought, MoW but modern, 6 days in Fallujah vibe etc I thought yeah why not. If its more of the same, I'm definitely interested!


So firstly with everything turned up to Ultra settings, it looked really blurry. Not quite sure whats going on?

I have,

HP Pavillion
Ryzen 5 4500
GTX 1650
8GB RAM


Second...... What the hell happened??? The enemy Ai compared with MoW:AS2 is horrible. And then the part of the first mission where you are locked into 3rd person driving the APC down a road shooting at brain dead enemies -- very arcadey?

It was really bad. Only played 20mins and very tempted to uninstall. Does it get better?
I mainly play solo.

I mean - what the hell happened? It makes me very worried about Gates of Hell now.

I'll go back to MoW:AS2 ................

[ASIA]

Call to Arms: Gates of Hell are better than Call to Arms because they have almost fixed every Call to Arms problems so you don't need to worry.

The brain dead AI are sadly a thing in Call to Arms. For example, in skirmish, my guys won't shoot an enemy one meter in front of my units. In some singleplayer missions the AI are sometimes competent. There are so many problems other than the AI DMS need to fix though.

But fear not, if Call to Arms; Gates of Hell is successful they will rework the AI and make both Call to Arms and Call to Arms; Gates of Hell better.

[Lamoi]

Hopefully.


Because MoWAS2 works. Its really excellent. And the AI is very good - enemy and friendly. There's not really a major gripe I have with it.
Perhaps the single-player is a little under-cooked and unbalanced as the AI is relentless on some levels. Once you take flags it should slow the enemy reinforcements in my opinion - they should tweak that. Other games that have similar mechanics do work like that, so no reason this game should not.

[Scourge012]

BTW, things looking blurry is what happens with Temporal AA. It's not just CTA that has this issue, it's the actual way it tries to smooth edges. Looks awful. I always turn off AA or set it to FXAA in games that use Temporal AA.

[Lamoi]

oh right....


Thanks for the head up I'll try turning that off

[Darth Revan]

Gates of hell is developed by a completely different development studio called barbedwire studios.

They are a community development studio and they work on gates of hell since about 2015.

People often praise mods for being way better than the vanilla game, although I would not call gates of hell a mod i still think that since it gets developed by a community development studio formed by a group of modders who works on gates of hell in their free time and without a budget they now have the opportunity to proofe those claims to be right or wrong. :)

Now to call to arms: it's not supposed to be mow as2 in a modern setting, it's it's own thing, a new IP.

I personally like it a lot, especially when controlling vehicles in 1st and 3rd person.

[Mighty-Python-20]

Youl need CTA to play gates of hell Not sure if it needs to be installed though. The best way to enjoy CTA is with hardcore mode enabled and on hard or heroic difficulty.

[Lamoi]

OK. Will try on harder difficulties.

[Lamoi]

Hey I turned off the AA its much better thanks.


Whats with grenadiers?? Theyre always shooting grenades like goonba's?! How do you get them to switch to firing their rifle?

[Hated_One]

Originally posted by Mighty-Python-20:

Youl need CTA to play gates of hell Not sure if it needs to be installed though. The best way to enjoy CTA is with hardcore mode enabled and on hard or heroic difficulty.

No you don't need CTA installed to play GoH. Just tried it.

[Mighty-Python-20]

Originally posted by Lamoi:

Hey I turned off the AA its much better thanks.


Whats with grenadiers?? Theyre always shooting grenades like goonba's?! How do you get them to switch to firing their rifle?

think its space bar also changes ammo types for cannon and auto cannons

[Lamoi]

They have an under-barrel grenade launcher and they dont seem to be able to resupply there rilfe ammo??

[Darth Revan]

Originally posted by Lamoi:

They have an under-barrel grenade launcher and they dont seem to be able to resupply there rilfe ammo??

If that has not changed and if I remember right their whole weapon works as a grenade launcher and can not shoot other ammo.

In other words they can not use their rifle.

[Lamoi]

Ive been playing the Editor and I am gonna move on to Gates of Hell Beta.

The AI is awful. They have a 5 second memory, and will often engage in a fire fire fight and and duck behind cover or retreat, then after a couple of seconds casually walk back to there placement spawn forgetting there is someone shooting at them. Its terrible.

The AI just dont seem as aware at all compared with MoW:AS2. I mean theres a fire fight going on and the AI that are say 100 yards away will be blissfully unaware...?

Its bad because MoW:AS2 -- its AI is actually really good. They have a high radious of awareness, they will attack, retreat, and there seems a sense of self preservation about them. The only thing I dont think they do is coordinate, I dont think the AI is aware of friendly AI and they coordinate, i think the AI just functions independently.

I think Im done with Call to Arms. Hopefully Gates of Hell fares better.

Very disappointing.

At least we have MoW:AS2 eh? That game is game of the year for me.... Im a little late to the party, but great game all the same!

[Lamoi]

Do I need CTA installed to play Gates of Hell?? If not I will uninstall...

[ASIA]

Originally posted by Lamoi:

At least we have MoW:AS2 eh? That game is game of the year for me.... Im a little late to the party, but great game all the same!

In my opinion, MoW:AS2 is also bad because of the 32bit engine that always crash the game and also paywall DLC (playing against AI).

Originally posted by Lamoi:

Do I need CTA installed to play Gates of Hell?? If not I will uninstall...

No you don't need to install CtA to install CtA:GoH