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SpeedWolf Jul 18, 2017 @ 11:18am
How do I kill the abrams tank?
I play a lot of Me versus 2 AI on heroic the AI being US always seem to spawn abrams tank at the end of a game I do take them out eventually but Is a pain to kill the abrams tank as the GRM.

For example I shoot a RPG-29 rocket directly on the side 4 times nothing happened and then I shot it from the back 3 times nothing happened I throw a Molotov to the engine still nothing happened I threw another Molotov at the engine now is starting to burn.

This is not my first encounter it happen every single time the first shot with a
RPG-7 or RPG-29 rocket will do track damage at most but nothing else.

So this is my question is there more effective way to kill this tank?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1ewdGmR6PA

Last edited by SpeedWolf; Jul 19, 2017 @ 4:02pm
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Enji or Not Jul 18, 2017 @ 12:01pm 
I'm not sure if this affects anything, but if you shoot the side and it fails to destroy the tank, try to shoot the same spot again. Also, I've managed to take out Abrams pretty easily with RPGs to the back.
Sometimes it's enough to just destroy the track. players will eventually get someone to repair it. Even tankmen can do that. You can then kill whoever gets out. Sometimes you can kill the crew with a well-placed RPG.
Or destroy the turret so it can't turn anymore. All it can do after that is use its MG. If you manage to kill the gunner, it's basically empty, except for the loader (?).
SpeedWolf Jul 18, 2017 @ 12:40pm 
I have clearly stated in my post that that method was not highly effective.
Last edited by SpeedWolf; Jul 18, 2017 @ 1:06pm
Enji or Not Jul 18, 2017 @ 3:22pm 
Originally posted by SpeedWolf:
I have clearly stated in my post that that method was not highly effective.
Hey, I can only tell you about the experience I had. I'm not a magician after all.
SpeedWolf Jul 19, 2017 @ 10:03am 
I play the game again to show that I already did this.

the short version of the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm412u222m0&t=8s

the long version of the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0nu6AbqT3I&t=6s

As you can see in the video it is extremely unfair for the GRM.
The Old Relic Jul 19, 2017 @ 11:53pm 
HI Speed, I have often wondered the same thing.
In past 1v1 games against human player, I can never destroy an Abrams. All i have managed to do is damage the engine with a shot from behind using the RPG-29 at close range but then i lose the man as the MG turns on him and kills him. On other occasions, i have used the recoiless rifle mounted on the 4WD, aimed it at the turret and caused enough damage that it couldnt fire. The tank was promptly sent back to the players spawn location for repair. Thankfully i foresaw this and had that area covered with a sniper so it took care of the engineers that were repairing the tank, thus making it innefective for the remainder of the game.
With that said, once the tank is at close quarters that is game over for my GRM troops as nothing can take it down, especially if its a Tusk. Perhaps it needs to be nerfed or a weapon with higher lethality be introduced.
allennguyen93 Jul 20, 2017 @ 6:53am 
Originally posted by SpeedWolf:
I have clearly stated in my post that that method was not highly effective.
abram tanks, even the models exports (whose armor part is even worse than the domestic models) used in the iraqi army are proven in real life battlefield are tough to be destroyed. Below is the video of iraqi abram tanks being showered with rpg and molotov from isis fighters and still remaining operational.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMiHeeF-yqA
Last edited by allennguyen93; Jul 20, 2017 @ 9:31am
SpeedWolf Jul 20, 2017 @ 3:34pm 
Thank you for the response but you would agree that this is a balancing issue the GRM will always be at a disadvantage especially when it's come to multiplayer.

Realism aside this needs to be balanced if people wish to play realistically they have the option for hardcore mode as currently it is very hard to counter the Abrams tank.

If you disagree is fine I am just stating my opinion out there as to play this game on an equal playing field both team will have to play the same faction to be judge by skill.
allennguyen93 Jul 20, 2017 @ 5:18pm 
Originally posted by SpeedWolf:
Thank you for the response but you would agree that this is a balancing issue the GRM will always be at a disadvantage especially when it's come to multiplayer.

Realism aside this needs to be balanced if people wish to play realistically they have the option for hardcore mode as currently it is very hard to counter the Abrams tank.

If you disagree is fine I am just stating my opinion out there as to play this game on an equal playing field both team will have to play the same faction to be judge by skill.

i agree with balancing. But it is not necessary to nerf its fire power and armor that abram tanks are well known for. There are other ways of balancing like increasing the mount of CP required to obatain a abram tanks or increasing the MP required (or both). I have played against abram tanks. they are useless (they only sit at their base unless they get infantry accompany them) if they don't have infantry support. they are bulky and very vulnerable in urban combat if there is not infantry support. By increasing CP or MP it forces players to think hard whether they have enough infantry support for the abram tank they are going to deploy
Last edited by allennguyen93; Jul 20, 2017 @ 5:20pm
soldier6661111 Jul 20, 2017 @ 6:54pm 
Why should the USA be equal to GRM. Just pressure the other side so they can't afford an Abrams. There are helis as well.
SpeedWolf Jul 20, 2017 @ 9:01pm 
To: allennguyen93
They are virtually invulnerable to kill changing the MP or CP doesn't change that fact as you seem to forget about team stacking this will give them a clear advantage if they're playing with friends please consider that as a factor.

To: soldier6661111
Please be open-minded that not everyone play the same mode as you the chopper are not available in all modes.
Last edited by SpeedWolf; Jul 20, 2017 @ 9:06pm
allennguyen93 Jul 21, 2017 @ 6:57am 
Originally posted by SpeedWolf:
To: allennguyen93
They are virtually invulnerable to kill changing the MP or CP doesn't change that fact as you seem to forget about team stacking this will give them a clear advantage if they're playing with friends please consider that as a factor.
you are talking as if you are playing alone against 2 players. First, you have to remember right now the MP required to deploy a abram already accounts for huge portion of the total MP in a match (i think for abram and any western tanks, the MP required should be higher). That means you have to save MP which leaves you at risk of being overrun as you can't buy more infantry (i played with many new players who liked to save for expensive vehicles, as a result my infantry line got stretched to the limit to cover for their side. Also most maps are not small, if your teammate wants to support you with his infantry, he also risks of being overrun on his side too as his infantry gets stretched very thinly.

Abrams are always us faction's advantage. But to get the advanatge, they expose their weakness. In general abrams along infantry quality are always us faction strength. But their units are expensive while grm units are cheaper thus giving them number advanatge ( i think think grm units should require less CP than now to give the real number advantage

if you show me a way how to upload a replay to youtube i can show you that i destroyed 2 abrams in a game. ( please show me)
Last edited by allennguyen93; Jul 21, 2017 @ 8:47am
SpeedWolf Jul 21, 2017 @ 8:57am 
Originally posted by allennguyen93:
if you show me a way how to upload a replay to youtube i can show you that i destroyed 2 abrams in a game. ( please show me)

go to >extra > replays then pick the replay you want to upload make sure to rename it you will see the option in the bottom.

Originally posted by allennguyen93:
you are talking as if you are playing alone against 2 players
Yes I am. that how I play.

Originally posted by allennguyen93:
grm units are cheaper thus giving them number advanatge
Superior number is pointless when the tank is invulnerable.
Last edited by SpeedWolf; Jul 21, 2017 @ 8:58am
allennguyen93 Jul 21, 2017 @ 9:35am 
Originally posted by SpeedWolf:
Originally posted by allennguyen93:
if you show me a way how to upload a replay to youtube i can show you that i destroyed 2 abrams in a game. ( please show me)

go to >extra > replays then pick the replay you want to upload make sure to rename it you will see the option in the bottom.

Originally posted by allennguyen93:
you are talking as if you are playing alone against 2 players
Yes I am. that how I play.

Originally posted by allennguyen93:
grm units are cheaper thus giving them number advanatge
Superior number is pointless when the tank is invulnerable.
you have time right now? i can show you how to effectively destroy a abram tank. we can do some experiment right now if you want
Last edited by allennguyen93; Jul 21, 2017 @ 10:10am
SpeedWolf Jul 21, 2017 @ 10:29am 
At work at this time but sure later in the day.
allennguyen93 Jul 21, 2017 @ 10:53am 
Originally posted by SpeedWolf:
At work at this time but sure later in the day.
dam did not know you unfriended and blocked me
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