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For some of my initial thoughts about it, you can see my post here:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/301610/discussions/0/627456486579103104/
I think the Open Canvas software is a good tool for artists (or for someone who more casually, perhaps like me, who just likes to dabble with sketching or painting on their computer and in time I think it can help me to improve my art skills).
I guess it's all a matter of personal preference.
I think GIMP may still be better suited for raw editing of graphics though (I never found GIMP so easy or intuitive to just sketch or paint in though). But I realize that GIMP is free to download & use (though they do accept donations).
I don't know how you got the idea that Open Canvas would own everything you make with it. That's a bizarre concept. That's like saying because a carpenter used a hammer to build a house, that the house then belongs to the company that made the hammer. :p Anyways, I've not yet seen any indication that Open Canvas "owns everything you make with it".
Also, I haven't so far felt limited with what I can do with the available tools and features in Open Canvas.
Anyways, if you're on the fence about Open Canvas, then I might suggest you try the trial version which you can grab from their site:
http://www.portalgraphics.net/en/oc/
PS: Getting Open Canvas has helped to spark my artistic talents (though I'm an "amateur / beginner", but I like to dabble) and I even grabbed a Wacom drawing-tablet to use with it, which works great with Open Canvas, and to me almost feels close to 'real' sketching or painting now.
There is also never anything as simple as "You own what you create." It doesn't say this in plain terms and language in bold face text, which implies to me that we don't own what we make.
I want to know the legal limitations.
While you are here:
I am also looking for a drawing tablet that will work well with Windows 7 PC. Do you have any suggestions? The stores won't let me "try before I buy" and when I ask they give me the Mitt Romney face which makes me run for the hills.
As I mentioned previous, I only just got Open Canvas 6 recently (during the Christmas sales here on Steam), so I'm still learning as I go and gradually becoming familiar with it. Also, I'm probably more of a casual "amateur / beginner" level artist (though over the years I've dabbled occasionally with pencil-&-paper sketching), but feel that I do have some inherant art talents.
Also, untill yesterday, I never owned or even used a drawing-tablet before.
Trying to draw freehand with a mouse I find can be fairly difficult, un-natural and more time-consuming. For a while I've been wanting to get a drawing-tablet anyways, so getting Open Canvas, and then drawing in it (at that time with a mouse), I really liked the ease-of-use and features of the software. So it then inspired me to go ahead and grab a drawing-tablet and checking a local FutureShop store where I live they had boxing-week sales on and I managed to grab a Wacom Intuos Graphic Tablet (and the pen that comes with it doesn't require any batteries) for a good discounted price.
I'm still getting used to using a drawing-tablet, but so far it's feeling quite natural, and it makes drawing or painting in Open Canvas much easier and better. I also like how when drawing with the tablet it's pressure sensitive, so with the Open Canvas software, with my pen-strokes it will then either draw a softer or heavier line accordingly plus the lines in drawing with a tablet tends to be a lot smoother too.
1. Does the pressure you apply to your pen/tablet actually show what you would expect from pencil on paper?
2. Does OpenCanvas 6 "play nice" with your tablet? what about gimp?
You seem to be in a similar boat to myself which is why I am asking you.
1: Using the drawing-tablet (or sometimes called a graphic-tablet or pen-tablet), with Open Canvas, yes, it detects the pressure I use with my pen-strokes and then draws the line, softer / lighter or harder / heavier, accordingly, so in that way I'd say yes, it does seem quite similar to as if I was using a pencil on paper or painbrush on canvas. It's also nice that in OpenCanvas I may start drawing a line with a heavier pressure, so the line will be drawn heavier, then I can gradually lighten the pressure on my pen-stroke and the line will lighten, thin-out and trail-off nicely. After installing the tablet-drivers, it then gives me a little control panel in which I can use to adjust various settings, pressure sensitivity and such to how I like.
2: My drawing-tablet seems to work fine in both Open Canvas and GIMP. However, to me, it seems better suited when I use it in Open Canvas. For GIMP, it doesn't seem to recognize the pressure I apply with my pen-strokes... it always just draws the same constant level of line regardless (unless there's some hidden setting in GIMP somewhere, which I've not been able to find such). Where in Open Canvas, it seems to automatically recognize the pressure of my pen-strokes and will then draw the line softer or heavier accordingly.
As I mentioned previously, I guess it's all a matter of personal preference of what software you might like to use, and you can always give the trial version a try for yourself to see what Open Canvas offers and if you like it or not. And though I would say I prefer sketching or painting with Open Canvas now, I think GIMP will still be useful for some raw graphic editing.
I do art professionally (as in actually for a living), I use OC as my primary tool for the job, and I have ZERO issues with it. You buy the program, and it's straight-up yours. No monthly fees, no DLC schemes, no bull. GO NUTS! I also avoid Photoshop partially for that, as well.
Heck, I've even done work with the trial version, PGN themselves know of it, and they didn't give a damn. In fact, in case you haven't tried it out, the trial really has no limitations apart from the time itself.
As for pen pressure, yes, OC responds accordingly, and you can even adjust it on the brush settings. I'm fine with the defaults myself, though. As for "playing nice" with the tablet, I've experienced issues with my Monoprice, and people have reported issues with Ugee (these two are rebrands of UC-Logic tablets). Huion (what I currently use) and Wacom are safe to use. If for some reason you have cursor offset issues, usually setting the coordinates to "OS" rather than "Tablet" fixes it (bottom-right corner of OC's UI).
OH! While OC itself allows you to create new brushes freely, it's default set can be a lil' lackluster. If you have that opinion as well, try these: http://fontesmakua.deviantart.com/art/FREE-openCanvas6-Resource-Pack-494380562
Any further questions, we're around!... maybe tomorrow, since it's new year's eve, but still. XD
And you now have word from Fontes, someone who is well familiar with the OC software and who is a professional level artist.
Whether you decide to get the OC software or not, I express to you best wishes and good luck with your projects. Cheers! :)
I might also suggest to check out the PGN Community at:
http://www.portalgraphics.net/pg/
One of the things I really liked about it is that for some of the art there (uploaded by various Open Canvas Users), is that you may be able to download the Event file for the image and then open it within your OC software then play it. In this way, you can see how the picture was drawn by the Artist that drew it, and it might also give you some new ideas and inspirations with some of your own art-work.
I personally recommend the H610 (or the H610 PRO variant). Not specifically what I use (I got a GT-190), but it's got a great price/quality balance. You get something almost like a Wacom Intuos Pro for the price of an old Wacom Bamboo.
If that's still a tad too much for your pocket, there's always the H420. Don't be fooled by it's small size, it's still a pretty good device.
If that's STILL too costly for your pocket, check these on ebay. You can get an H420 for $30 or less if you look hard enough, with free shipping. Same with the H610, I ordered one for a friend of mine for a lil' over $50, again with free shipping.
Oh, and ALL of Huion's devices have 2048 levels of pen pressure, even the tiny H420. So you get the idea, Wacom only delivers that on their Intuos Pro line and up (their low-end devices have 1024 levels).
I stick with Wacom because I've had the least amount of driver problems and program conflicts with Wacom drivers. Fontes seems to like Huion though, so that's certainly a good option too. I suppose Genius drivers have also done well for me concerning program conflicts.
In GIMP, to get Wacom to work, you have to go to:
- Edit → Preferences
- Input Devices → Configure Extended Input Devices
- Choose your device and set it to Screen mode
You have to do some other stuff as well. More detail can be found here < http://gimpchat.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=10283 >
I've personally never been a fan of GIMP, since nothing is really streamline. Everything needs to be done step-by-step through complicated process for the same effect that is easily done in other programs. But there's no deniable that it's really powerful and free.
Ugh, the nightmare of having to script tools for GIMP as part of my game programming courses.
This program is actually much friendlier than Gimp already. Most things are streamlined and intuitive. I do feel like I have less options, however I never used those options anyway. From working with this so far, the workload feels like less.
Maybe you wrote some of those gimp scripts I myself use, if you made fractal coastlines, terrain heightmaps or anything else of the sort. My current bicker is mountains. I am god awful at making mountains! I wish I could just get 1-2 acceptable ranges to save as a Brush or something. In time, I suppose.
When my tablet arrives, I will be using this with it quite frequently. I used to use paint.net to supplement Gimp, I haven't used it in a long time though. This feels a step above paint.net, yet not quite as extreme as Gimp.
Now, if only I could figure out how to use Blender...