Gol-Set literally impossible in no run/dodge mode?

[Lo-fi Longcat]

You can't get from one side of the arena to the other without the hand coming off the pressure plate. Am I missing something?

[Yotraarv'thor]

You can, it's very hard but it's possible if you pay attention to his movement ;)

[Lo-fi Longcat]

I've managed to get his hands onto both pressure plates but I don't have enough time to shoot the laser cannon before I die. I even recorded it and slowed it down and I hit the plate directly a couple of frames before I get smooshed :c

[Shadowspaz]

You'll cut it close, but it IS doable. Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGl6HFqpyXE

Don't worry about me shooting an arrow at the start- That's just cause, since I already beat him, that's how you need to start the fight. The opening of my approach is the same as when I first fought him.

[Lo-fi Longcat]

jesus you make it seem so easy. thanks man, I'll be sure to try that later

[Shadowspaz]

Hahaha, I spent well over an hour plotting the precise route to follow. The left hand really is as easy as it looks, but the key to the right hand is that you always need to be moving down to dodge it.

Good luck!

[Lo-fi Longcat]

I think I know where I was going wrong then, I was always starting off with the right hand

[Yotraarv'thor]

To me the hardest part was actually shooting his weak spot, the analog on my controller is derpy so it took like 50 tries to pull that off. But even with a bad controller, the game is much different than it is with keyboard, much easier also.

[Lo-fi Longcat]

I finally did it thank you so much shadowspaz

[Shadowspaz]

Originally posted by Lo-fi Longcat:

I finally did it thank you so much shadowspaz

No problem! Good luck with the Soul! :)

[DevilBlackDoom]

Still it would need a fix -_- It's just dumb, it's partly luck, because a difference of a couple of pixels when avoiding his second hand hit after the switches have been pushed might make the hand go right in your line of fire... bit ridiculous if you ask me, even for a "super hard" mode as no-roll

[Shadowspaz]

I wouldn't say it's any part luck... The strategy I use in that video works for me every time. That was my third time using it.

Once you find something that works, it will always work. It's just a matter of really learning how the hands move, and reacting properly to exploit them.

[DevilBlackDoom]

Yeah, but still it seems like too much of a leap in difficulty compared to everything else (and I beat every Titans in hard mode, including Truth, which is a real pain in the a**)

PS : Just did a couple of researches, and I couldn't easily find mini walkthroughs to beat him in Hard mode, nor any for The Soul and the final boss in Hard or No-Roll mode. This is literally one of the only Titan/Mode that you can easily find videos for on Google by just typing "gol set no roll".

PSS : Yeah also I realize the "luck" part needs some clarification indeed xD I also don't believe it has to do anything with luck (I have found a pattern that I can reproduce to at least get the hands to push the switches, I jsut still can't avoid them after that). However, the whole game, even in No-Roll mode, is based around the basic fact that it becomes natural after a couple of plays to find the weakness of the boss. Here it is all a matter of the hands not going the same speed in all four directions and hitboxes (probably intentionnally, not meanning it is a glitch in any way) going a bit farther on some sides of the hands, which is mostly technical. This results in trying out many different ways to avoid the hands until you find the right one for you, but you can never know exactly when it will hit you (the only sure thing is that going down apparently ALWAYS saves you, and going on the outer side of the hand also seems to do so if you have the room to). So in short (since that wasn't too short xD) I think this Titan in No-Roll mode betrays the whole concept that I loved during my playtime with the game !

[Shadowspaz]

My experience with No-Roll was that I needed a MUCH better understanding of how each of the Titans moved, since every slight error can get you killed. This results in a more intricate mode of learning, where you can no longer just rely on the reflexes and basic knowledge that you get from other runs. So while finding their weaknesses becomes natural, No-Roll forces you to understand their movement on a similar level.

This results in exploiting aiming nuances against the Soul, triggering Gol-Qayin's spin right away by alternating hitboxes as fluidly as possible, and finding the holes in Gol-Set's hand's pathfinding. I don't think it betrays the concept at all. :)

[Kourosh]

If you find the pattern, you will see that it is very easy to defeat it
You can use gameplay on YouTube to defeat them

[lennygold]

is it possible with keyboard aka no 360 aim?