Chapter 11's End Rant [MAJOR SPOILERS]

[Moon Rabbit]

Was anyone else absolutely fuming at how utterly stupid the end scene was? How cliched, non-sensical and hamfisted it was? What an insulting attempt to show the "evils of war". Maybe if the damn thing didn't fly in the face of the game's own logic. Or the writers were smart enough to make it believable. But they weren't. and it sucked. In a big way.

The idiots who wrote this game decided that after the fight was over, this time and this time only the 7's would stand around yakking, with no one on patrol, or keeping watch. Isara takes a shot from some dopey imps that happened to still be bumbling around, as if S7 had forgotten they are on a battle field. Not the leader standing around, not the bigger armed threats like Largo. No they kill the one that we would all be saddest to see get shot. Because the lazy writers, are dumbs as balls.

So she goes face down down in China Town mid-handshake, talking about all the wonderful plans she had after retirement like the partner in the first ten minutes of every revenge cop movie.

Then the writers equip their trollfaces, and moonwalk past all logic or reason, and the magic stealth healer isn't called, despite being able to materalize anywhere in space or time, and having characters get killed by friggin mortars only to return to the field the next turn. Then Welkin sits there and acts as if a sitcom he didn't particularly care for was cancelled.

I've had it up to here with Japanese writers and the 'cutscene incompetence' crutch that they seem to live on, all year round.

And all for what? So Rosie can have some kind of revelation to stop being a weak tsundere bigot? As if all the other stuff like Isara taking her ♥♥♥♥ everytime with a smile, or the burned slaves didn't cut it.

And to top it all off, Alicia has the same thing happen and they almost trip over themselves calling the MEDIC! It's like the writers didn't even pay attention to their own narrative. ♥♥♥♥ing ♥♥♥♥.

Sorry for the outburst, but this made me more angry, than any of the cheap deaths I've encurred.

[red255]

Because Rosie had to promise to sing for her, so rosie would get over her darscen hate plotline to get her powerup. they could have still done it but she would have had to promise to sing right before they went on the mission 'when we get back I'll sing for you, ok?'

death flag. etc.

the way it went down I'd expect Welkin would have been kicking himself harder for not securing the perimeter.

[Moon Rabbit]

Първоначално публикувано от raphaelroberge:

Първоначално публикувано от FiachSidhe:

Wait until you face off against Jager, the ending to that mission makes even LESS sense.

what do you mean it makes no sense?

1. Blowup his tank.
2. Not only is he unharmed, but is able to stand around giving a lengthy monologue to his subordinate, with absolutely zero interference from the 7's, and then is able to simply walk off the battlefield never to be seen again.
3. Never once do the 7's attempt to arrest him, or even notice what is going on and it's never addressed ever again.

[ZippyVtuber]

Първоначално публикувано от FiachSidhe:

Първоначално публикувано от raphaelroberge:

what do you mean it makes no sense?

1. Blowup his tank.
2. Not only is he unharmed, but is able to stand around giving a lengthy monologue to his subordinate, with absolutely zero interference from the 7's, and then is able to simply walk off the battlefield never to be seen again.
3. Never once do the 7's attempt to arrest him, or even notice what is going on and it's never addressed ever again.

True, but then you could simply assume thye think he's dead and are re-organizing after thefight. Squad 7, I mean.
And btw, i don't think it makes even less sense as all the other cutscenes. let just say it makes as much no sense
Edit: That's what I like about this game. we get to create the "what if's" and reasons as to why this did or did not happen :).

[leadmecca]

When I was watching right where Rosie is walking up with the doll I had this HUGE grin and I was looking around my room, saying woah woah woah, is someone punking me here? Is this the direction they really want to go? The god of dickery hates me this much?

And then the laughter. And then rains down all the other times in all the other games I think about how the mechanics work and named character shields and how sometimes plot induced stupidity steps in. Enemy at the gates did this well, because female heroine was horribly wounded with a gut shot, possibly pregnant, supposedly evacuated, and that was it till the end. I was sad with the games situation of no patrol, no securing really wide gaps/gates, no sentry, no military protocol during tank maintanence, no ghille/camo tech or tarp to just toss over a small area like a tank in downtime or pulling into a barn, and then you got the bad guy trope of ha ha I escape unscathed, or invincible till the end or however times, and named good guy gets 9 lives but named good guy X gets jack, because well, they have to die for reasons.

It felt like the 7's never had any actual battle protocol besides my hearing Welk to tell Largo to be quiet because of snipers or giving away position. It was too lax, too laid back an attitude especially with a crew filled 1/3rd with vets who probably fought in a more dirty war prior. So I couldn't have had any investment with Is dying, beyond I liked her the most. Hamfisting racial hatred with a ginger I could care less, and I didn't care about it for a song or power up even more. And the way Welk acted during and after I looked at his relationship with Is as just some friend which I don't care about their relationship anymore through extra replays from the start now. But again, they sucked at writing this imo but I love the gameplay. It's a bit better then Future Tactics but it's the same story nearly beat for beat, just replace the Eastern Front with Apocolytic Wasteland and aliens/demons from another dimension.

[Panda]

To be fair, Alicia was not shot to kill. They specifically mentioned that no important organs were hit. Also Alicia is a Valkyria...and Isara is just a normal person.

[red255]

Първоначално публикувано от Panda:

To be fair, Alicia was not shot to kill. They specifically mentioned that no important organs were hit. Also Alicia is a Valkyria...and Isara is just a normal person.

I believe he was referring to an in mission scene not a cutscene where alicia was used but any scout could be used as an example of just calling for a medic, and most of your guys aren't valkyr unless they are.

[Moon Rabbit]

Първоначално публикувано от Panda:

To be fair, Alicia was not shot to kill. They specifically mentioned that no important organs were hit. Also Alicia is a Valkyria...and Isara is just a normal person.

Something they were only able to figure out AFTER calling the medic. They didn't even try with Isara.

[HaseONEz]

Seriously though, why no one used a phoenix down on Aeris? oops, wrong game again.

[Cat Daddy]

Първоначално публикувано от HaseONEz:

Seriously though, why no one used a phoenix down on Aeris? oops, wrong game again.

someone give this man a prize

they didnt use a defib on bill in l4d2 either. they just let that old fart die. why couldnt they let louise die? oh wait that would be too stereotype

seriously thi i just saw isara die...i didnt think it was as insulting as trip dying in start trek enterprize.....now THAT was bad and insulting.

I felt her dead was done alright but rather stupid how in a serious battle they just all seemed rather relaxed about everything when they JUST won

[nothing_cool]

just FYI, 87.392% of all statistisics are made up on the spot

[SpaceCodet]

Rules of writing

1. All the stories have been told before. As a wrter you must tell the tale in your way to make it unique.

2. Most people who read and/or veiw your work are smarter then you. As a writer you need to do propper reseach. You don't need to know everything about the subject. You do however need to know the basics.

Sceene: They're standing around yacking. An artiliry round hits them. Smoke clears and everyone is laying all over. Fade to black.

I haven't been a writer in years. This is better then thay sceene. It's not like that hasn't happene in real life. Game doesn't have gore so no picture of Is with her head cracked open. It also gets rid of the hack writing.

Първоначално публикувано от baterism:

She's dead, Jim. Let it go.

I read this and didn't comment further. Couldn't keep from coming back to read the post again. That's why I'm posting this.

Now I'll shut the hell up.

[ZippyVtuber]

what exactly are you trying to say?

[Rogue One]

It's a Japanese game.

[nothing_cool]

Първоначално публикувано от Darth_Bane_Sithari:

It's a Japanese game.

need we say more?

[ZippyVtuber]

yes..and one of th eonly anime games i will play, as for and anime game, it's very uhhh...un-anime? either way, it's one o fthose games i find that is serious enough, but has just enough funny/ less serious moments to keep yourself from depressing in those dark moments.