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YME Jan 31, 2015 @ 9:46pm
anybody else use to play this on Ps3 and PSP
I really loved the series can't believe its here on my favorite gaming system my pc to play on :) hope they port the second and third game, both second and third are psp exclusive and third one i believe never left Japan
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SenMithrarin85 Feb 1, 2015 @ 12:31pm 
2 and 3 would require a lot more work to port and few would even touch them due to their sub-HD resolutions. And 3 would require localisation if it never left Japan.
SaberVS7 Feb 1, 2015 @ 1:22pm 
It would require a lot more work to port? wat.

You do realize that THIS was a *PS3* game originally, right? You would have to go out of your way to make porting a PSP game harder than a PS3 game.

Also, "sub-HD resolutions" - This is PC gaming, son. Resolution options!
Gekkibi Feb 1, 2015 @ 1:27pm 
Originally posted by ValkyrurS7:
Also, "sub-HD resolutions" - This is PC gaming, son. Resolution options!
...Meaning that it would more likely have to be a remake instead of just a more direct port, my young padawan.

You can't make a PSP game look good on PC just by allowing higher resolutions. Look at it. Seriously:
Valkyria Chronicles 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlVuhAVF68s

Valkyria Chronicles 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N_vZ5I0p3M

You can't make Heretic look good either just by adding 1920x1080 resolution to the graphics settings.
Last edited by Gekkibi; Feb 1, 2015 @ 1:35pm
SaberVS7 Feb 1, 2015 @ 1:58pm 
Originally posted by Gekkibi:
Originally posted by ValkyrurS7:
Also, "sub-HD resolutions" - This is PC gaming, son. Resolution options!
...Meaning that it would more likely have to be a remake instead of just a more direct port, my young padawan.

You can't make a PSP game look good on PC just by allowing higher resolutions. I mean, look at it. Seriously:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlVuhAVF68s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14

Using a direct-feed video with 480p upscaling to 1080p instead of it in PPSSPP at higher render resolution of 4K downsampled to 1080p. Classy. How about this instead:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP72tcCA8To

Besides, we do have direct-ports of PSP games on Steam, such as Trails in the Sky (http://store.steampowered.com/app/251150/) and Elminage Gothic (http://store.steampowered.com/app/291960/) un-oddly enough, I fail to see people ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about them being built for lower resolutions originally. Add to that the recent port of Hyperdimension Neptunia (http://store.steampowered.com/app/282900/) which is from the Vita - Which is another sub-HD system.

Now, you're going to cite that they have higher-resolution assets than they did on their native systems. Well, guess what - Do you really think that those assets were built directly at the resolution that they would be shown at on the PSP? Any sane and professional development pipeline of the past 20 years builds assets at higher fidelity and scales them down to work within the giving limitations of whatever system they are building them for - This has been the case since the days of Donkey Kong Country and Marathon!

Those PSP ports with higher-res assets for their PC versions didn't need them to be remade, because the assets already existed - Just simply not usable for their original PSP versions. This is even the case for VC3, where the background stills were drawn at *higher than* 1080p and downsampled to the PSP's resolution: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21655145/valkyria-chronicles-3-riela-bought-stuff.jpg

Feasibly, the only real change that needs to be made is fixing the godawful LOD'ing that VC2 and 3 have. Anyways, to sum it up:

Checkmate.
Gekkibi Feb 1, 2015 @ 2:02pm 
I wouldn't call it checkmate when the sandbags and characters look like they're origamis...
SaberVS7 Feb 1, 2015 @ 2:11pm 
Originally posted by Gekkibi:
I wouldn't call it checkmate when the sandbags and characters look like they're origamis...

You realize you're already playing a game with prerendered sub-1080p cutscenes right? There's already a precedent set for sub-1080p assets in PC ports of the VC series, so w/e.
Gekkibi Feb 1, 2015 @ 2:13pm 
Originally posted by ValkyrurS7:
Originally posted by Gekkibi:
I wouldn't call it checkmate when the sandbags and characters look like they're origamis...

You realize you're already playing a game with prerendered sub-1080p cutscenes right? There's already a precedent set for sub-1080p assets in PC ports of the VC series, so w/e.
I'm not talking about texture quality or resolution here. I'm talking about the models. I doubt they have better models hidden somewhere. Evidence is needed if you want to say there are.
YME Feb 1, 2015 @ 2:15pm 
wow you guys need to chill, Its just a post asking if anybody else played the series
Gekkibi Feb 1, 2015 @ 2:17pm 
Originally posted by Spartan 4:
wow you guys need to chill, Its just a post asking if anybody else played the series
We're discussing your second sentence here.
RedShocktrooper Feb 1, 2015 @ 2:20pm 
I freaking love VC2, maybe not so much the story (though I did like it a fair amount) but the gameplay improvements make it a better game than VC1 in many regards. If Sega committed to a PC port of it and it was reasonably priced (and you can't tell me 20 American for the "best game nobody played of 2008" isn't a good price), I would happily buy it. I'd be even more on-board if it came with the Japanese audio track but by that point it'd be icing in the cake.
YME Feb 1, 2015 @ 2:25pm 
nice dude, I also was a fan, wish they made the third one for psp or vita, got the game at a deal for 10$
Originally posted by RedShocktrooper:
I freaking love VC2, maybe not so much the story (though I did like it a fair amount) but the gameplay improvements make it a better game than VC1 in many regards. If Sega committed to a PC port of it and it was reasonably priced (and you can't tell me 20 American for the "best game nobody played of 2008" isn't a good price), I would happily buy it. I'd be even more on-board if it came with the Japanese audio track but by that point it'd be icing in the cake.
SaberVS7 Feb 1, 2015 @ 5:32pm 
Also, I should remind everyone in here:

Porting a PS3 game is NOT an insignificant investment. Rebuilding CELL code for x86 and vice-versa is a complete ♥♥♥♥♥ to do - That's why last gen there were so many games that were 360 and PC only (Left4Dead, Two Worlds, Bioshock before Sony funded a port) rather than PS3 and PC only.
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Date Posted: Jan 31, 2015 @ 9:46pm
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