My snipers couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, help?

[dynastystar]

The snipers are potentially my favorite class if they actually hit sometimes. I'm currently on chapter 6, my snipers are level 5, and I've upgraded the sniper rifle to the third one(highest that I can go to atm), yet they still can't shoot for anything worth a damn, even when they have increased accuracy. Am I simply trying to shoot from too far away? I try to keep my snipers at a distance since they're so defensively weak.

[busards]

I will consider that you know you can zoom with a sniper rifle and that you are always zooming when taking a shot... you are using the zoom, right?

If you are:

What matters the most is your sniper rifle's zoom (hidden stats), then its aiming circle size (the "Aim" stat is misleading, ignore it, the only way to really know it is by trying the rifle) and last the level (well, except for one character who get perfect accuracy at level 16 through a potential).

Sadly, you shouldn't have upgraded your sniper rifle. The default sniper rifle (GSR-1) zooms 2 times more than the next three upgrades (GSR-2 to GSR-4) and as a result is up to 2 times more accurate than those upgrades (I know, you couldn't know, the zoom is a hidden stat, and now it's too late). Now, you will have to wait for chapter 8 (hopefully it's soon enough) to upgrade for the GSR-10 (still inferior zoom than the GSR-1 but a much smaller aiming circle to compensate, and more powerful as well).

Still, upgrading to GSR-10 won't solve everything, snipers will still miss unless you get close enough (in the 400 range to be sure, still outside of enemy interception range) but at least they will miss a lot less than if you were using the GSR-2 to GSr-4. It's only when you will get sniper rifles with 14+ zoom (chapter 15 or so) that snipers will start being actually reliable.

[dynastystar]

Publicado originalmente por busards:

I will consider that you know you can zoom with a sniper rifle and that you are always zooming when taking a shot... you are using the zoom, right?

If you are:

What matters the most is your sniper rifle's zoom (hidden stats), then its aiming circle size (the "Aim" stat is misleading, ignore it, the only way to really know it is by trying the rifle) and last the level (well, except for one character who get perfect accuracy at level 15 through a potential).

Sadly, you shouldn't have upgraded your sniper rifle. The default sniper rifle (GSR-1) zooms 2 times more than the next three upgrades (GSR-2 to GSR-4) and as a result is up to 2 times more accurate than those upgrades (I know, you couldn't know, the zoom is a hidden stat, and now it's too late). Now, you will have to wait for chapter 8 (hopefully it's soon enough) to upgrade for the GSR-10 (still inferior zoom than the GSR-1 but a much smaller aiming circle to compensate, and more powerful as well).

Still, upgrading to GSR-10 won't solve everything, snipers will still miss unless you get close enough (in the 400 range to be sure, still outside of enemy interception range) but at least they will miss a lot less than if you were using the GSR-2 to GSr-4. It's only when you will get sniper rifles with 14+ zoom (chapter 15 or so) that snipers will start being actually reliable.

I do zoom in, as far as I can(is there some kind of drawback to zooming in further like stamina or something?)

Well crap. How do I see the range I am from another character? you said 400 range, but I don't know how close that is.

[Korgi]

Agreed. What kind of sniper misses with a steady aim? Its a shame to wait just to get a better rifle.

[ShinkuTear]

Publicado originalmente por dynastystar:

Well crap. How do I see the range I am from another character? you said 400 range, but I don't know how close that is.

Someone had an image giving an idea on range... but weapon range is 1 to 1 with AP. If you have 800 AP, like with a Scout, you can move 800 Range.

[shareofhonor]

Easy fix. save and reload if they miss. They will hit in a shot or two.

[Korgi]

Can you even save during a mission?

Edit: You can't. I thought i knew something was wrong. Turns out shareofhonor hasn't actully played the game.

[dynastystar]

Publicado originalmente por Occasionally Korgi:

Can you even save during a mission?

Edit: You can't. I thought i knew something was wrong. Turns out shareofhonor hasn't actully played the game.

You can save during a mission actually. Press F while you're on the command screen during the mission, go to "System" and there's options to both save your file and to load one.

[Korgi]

Oh wow I didn't know that. Sorry for doubting and thanks for the tip.

[dynastystar]

Publicado originalmente por Occasionally Korgi:

Oh wow I didn't know that. Sorry for doubting and thanks for the tip.

Its fine, its worth noting that just because they don't have it on here, doesn't mean that they don't have it elsewhere. Valkyria Chronicles was originally a PS3 game.

[jamesc70]

Publicado originalmente por busards:

Sadly, you shouldn't have upgraded your sniper rifle. The default sniper rifle (GSR-1) zooms 2 times more than the next three upgrades (GSR-2 to GSR-4) and as a result is up to 2 times more accurate than those upgrades (I know, you couldn't know, the zoom is a hidden stat, and now it's too late). Now, you will have to wait for chapter 8 (hopefully it's soon enough) to upgrade for the GSR-10 (still inferior zoom than the GSR-1 but a much smaller aiming circle to compensate, and more powerful as well).

Eh?

You can switch sniper rifles in the headquarters at any time. Or do you mean that upgrading stats in R&D changes the weapon you have equipped?

One thing I've noticed, is that if you don't see a 'X hits to kill' when hovering over an enemy, it will mean a guaranteed miss. If you are in 'optimal' range and the enemy isn't in cover, then that should read '1 hit to kill'

[dynastystar]

Publicado originalmente por jamesc70:

Publicado originalmente por busards:

Sadly, you shouldn't have upgraded your sniper rifle. The default sniper rifle (GSR-1) zooms 2 times more than the next three upgrades (GSR-2 to GSR-4) and as a result is up to 2 times more accurate than those upgrades (I know, you couldn't know, the zoom is a hidden stat, and now it's too late). Now, you will have to wait for chapter 8 (hopefully it's soon enough) to upgrade for the GSR-10 (still inferior zoom than the GSR-1 but a much smaller aiming circle to compensate, and more powerful as well).

Eh?

You can switch sniper rifles in the headquarters at any time. Or do you mean that upgrading stats in R&D changes the weapon you have equipped?

One thing I've noticed, is that if you don't see a 'X hits to kill' when hovering over an enemy, it will mean a guaranteed miss. If you are in 'optimal' range and the enemy isn't in cover, then that should read '1 hit to kill'

I consistently miss even if it does say "1 hit to kill", but part of the reason why my snipers are so much could be that they enemy is in cover

[Winged One]

Publicado originalmente por jamesc70:

Publicado originalmente por busards:

Sadly, you shouldn't have upgraded your sniper rifle. The default sniper rifle (GSR-1) zooms 2 times more than the next three upgrades (GSR-2 to GSR-4) and as a result is up to 2 times more accurate than those upgrades (I know, you couldn't know, the zoom is a hidden stat, and now it's too late). Now, you will have to wait for chapter 8 (hopefully it's soon enough) to upgrade for the GSR-10 (still inferior zoom than the GSR-1 but a much smaller aiming circle to compensate, and more powerful as well).

Eh?

You can switch sniper rifles in the headquarters at any time. Or do you mean that upgrading stats in R&D changes the weapon you have equipped?

One thing I've noticed, is that if you don't see a 'X hits to kill' when hovering over an enemy, it will mean a guaranteed miss. If you are in 'optimal' range and the enemy isn't in cover, then that should read '1 hit to kill'

actually, the "hits to kill" displaying "??" does not mean it will miss, it simply means it would take more than 25 (at least, i think the number is 25.. might be 30) hits to kill them.. usually because the further you are out of your guns effective range the less damage you will do.. it can still hit them when it shows a ??, however it does barely any damage (usually only around 5 hit points)

[GrimAtrament]

snipers are not as bad as lancers with aimming Lancers is like every blue moon they hit what they are supose to hit

[dynastystar]

Publicado originalmente por Hazerddex:

snipers are not as bad as lancers with aimming Lancers is like every blue moon they hit what they are supose to hit

There was one time when I was about a foot away from a tank's weak spot behind the tank with a lancer, and my shot missed with it. I couldn't have been more than 20 range away from it. (this happened after my initial post)

[Korgi]

I have come to the conclusion that all my characters were stormtroopers in another life. I can't hit unless I am literally touching the enemy. You would think your guys could stand still and aim but no?