Void Provocation Broken?

[Sacheverell]

Like the title says. I've had this colony do 7 different Void Provocation rituals over a period of weeks, and none of them have done anything. Is there some meter or resource I should be monitoring?

EDIT: I've included a post below that meticulously details the process of demonstrating that Void Provocation does not work. It is repeatable, and it is demonstrable.

[Sacheverell]

Just to be sure, I started a 100% clean save, with nothing but Core and DLCs activated, all mods removed. Same result...VP doesn't seem to do anything at all. On a hunch, kicked on Devmode and force-fired off various other rituals (Shamblers, Pit, etc), none of them did anything.

[HunterSilver]

I haven't had any issues with it but went to try it again just to make sure. Ritual finished, alert went up, anomaly music started a moment later, and after a few seconds an entity attacked my base. For this test a death pall rolled in.

Shambler and fleshbeast rituals are also working fine for me. Not sure why your events aren't firing, sounds like something in your game might be broken. Try verifying your files or even reinstalling the game fresh.

[Sacheverell]

Originally posted by HunterSilver:

Try verifying your files or even reinstalling the game fresh.

Neither of these had an effect. Void Provocation doesn't do anything at all, other than occasionally KO a colonist for a bit.

[HunterSilver]

Is anything coming up in your error log?

[Sacheverell]

Originally posted by HunterSilver:

Is anything coming up in your error log?

Not a thing. On a clean (vanilla + DLCs only) install, the log never populates anything past the initial load stuff. No errors, no warnings, nothing.

[Sacheverell]

Kinda bummed, too...it doesn't seem there's any other way to advance in this DLC, so I'm just stuck with a colony that has some occasionally creepy fog and nothing else of note. :/

[-HoK- Cian]

Run a file verification. Sometimes steam installed don't go 100% perfect even on a clean install.

[Sacheverell]

Originally posted by -HoK- Cian:

Run a file verification. Sometimes steam installed don't go 100% perfect even on a clean install.

Read above - I've done that. I've done total un/re-installs, 3 now. Nothing has changed this ritual not working.

[Sacheverell]

Alright, just to make sure I wasn't missing anything at all, I've done a thorough itemized list of everything attempted this time. Anyone can follow along with it, if they care to:

- Per above, did a full file verification again, just to be 100% sure
- Load Rimworld with Core, the DLCs, and nothing else
- Start a new game, Anomaly scenario
- planet generation left on defaults, seed set to "1234"
- randomly chose 19.24N / 16.07E for a colony location. It is Desert, there is Marble and Granite
- Ideology system left inactive
- 3 randomly generated pawns, left untouched; launch into game
- pawns land; I immediately save the game as "Anomaly save test for Void Provocation"
- once saved, I select pawn #1 on the list to go investigate the monolith
- "Keep focusing on the anomaly" is selected on the prompt
- the monolith responds with a scripted message informing of the new quest; grey pall falls over the colony
- pawn #2 automatically continues the study action, while #1 is assigned to gather wood from nearby cacti and Drago trees (steel already present); begin construction of basic research bench
- while waiting, I drop down a storage zone to hold said raw supplies, and the items that landed with the pawns
- (ancient danger warning as pawn walks by centrally located Ancient Danger structure)
- during this, pawn #2's study cycle of monolith ends without incident or result
*at this stage, the console has not yet generated any messaging beyond the "initializing new game" message, listing the DLCs and core; Auto-Open is left on, to immediately observe any errors
- Day 0, 20h; research bench completed. Research on Void Provocation immediately begun
- Day 0, 23h; two Harbinger trees sprout, as expected for the first anomaly spawn (I've also had a sightstealer appear, but it doesn't appear this time)
- ...once again remember anomaly research isn't done on a research bench; since pawns have food, I fast-forward to the next day
- per above wrt: "Sightstealer didnt show up", a sightstealer shows up Day 1 2h
- as our ghoul slaps it around a little, the research prompt for the Proximity detector appears, as expected
- pawn #2 captures the sightstealer, as I realize it has no room for its capture platform. construction begins on this, building around the creature and its holding spot
- ironically, no colonist has sufficient construction skill to finish the containment door, and there arent enough resources for the non-auto one. the sightstealer seems content to sit there for the moment
- fast-fwded to the cooldown expiration for the monolith, study continues; pawns are testy but still alive, food supplies are enough for this
- anticipating the sightstealer's imminent escape, the ghoul is planted in its way to wait for the escape attempt / administer some more slappings. the single pawn with decent shooting (#1) takes the shotgun as well, just to be sure
- study cooldown finishes, pawn #2 immediately assigned to study monolith; research stops JUST short of finishing Void Provocation...i swear a few times
- lacking a containment door still, a wall is built where the door should be. (this likely wont hold, but hey)
- yet another 2 days fast-forwarded through; food supplies fine
- a child wanders onto the map, looking for 2 beers for his "sick" uncle; as the colony has no beers, his uncle goes un-drunk'd (sadge)
- wall is re-opened to study the sightstealer once more; it is surprisingly obliging about all of this, considering it could just leave
- enough research is done to complete Void Provocation; Psychic Ritual Spot is placed nearby, outside. Sightstealer's wall is re-sealed because I like pretending things are fine, apparently
- the two non-ghoul colonists immediately begin the Provocation ritual; beer-child keeps wandering into the circle like an idiot
- pawn #1 Coma'd from the ritual upon completion of ritual, "Prepare for what comes next" warning box appears as expected
- 5 hours are fast-forwarded through, with no apparent effect
- owing to impatience, i devmode-reset the cooldown of the ritual, un-devmode, and begin the ritual again once pawn #1 awakens; neither pawn comas at this point
- 5 more hours fast-forwarded through, nothing new happens

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At this point, it seemed fair to call the test complete. At no point did the console log produce any information whatsoever - no errors, no bugs, no warnings - and the game appears to work normally in every other respect.

(While writing this, the ghoul went mad from hunger and turned on the colony, as ghouls do.)

So - I'm at a loss. If anyone can explain this, I'd be thrilled.

[Sacheverell]

Hoping to make a more useful bug report, I also joined the Rimworld bug report Discord, wherein I discovered that I can't actually post anything anywhere.

[Doomdrvk]

Originally posted by Sacheverell:

Like the title says. I've had this colony do 7 different Void Provocation rituals over a period of weeks, and none of them have done anything. Is there some meter or resource I should be monitoring?

Some of the events require you have enough threatpoints to combat the threats that may arrive. Its a readiness check that RimWorld has always had. If you enable dev mode and select the debug graph in the history graph tab then you can see your combat points. Recommended you get 30 points and then all the events should come.

However there is another issue that can occur as a bug. On extreme biomes there is currently no way to get a harbinger tree (other than finding an exotic goods trader with a seed). Void provocation should bypass the biome requirement for the tree but it is currently bugged. Fixed

[Sacheverell]

Some of the events require you have enough threatpoints to combat the threats that may arrive. Its a readiness check that RimWorld has always had. If you enable dev mode and select the debug graph in the history graph tab then you can see your combat points. Recommended you get 30 points and then all the events should come.

The debug graph does not have a Combat Points entry. There is Recovery, Pop Intent x10, Fun Points / 10, and Pop Recovery.

[Sacheverell]

For the sake of total thoroughness, I uninstalled Rimworld, and then reinstalled on a different drive entirely. Used the same steps as above, with the same result.

Generally an anomaly will populate when the monolith is first studied, but never again after that. Void Provocation ritual will sometimes KO a colonist, but otherwise has no observable effect. No anomalies appear, nothing observably changes.

[Tavero]

Originally posted by Sacheverell:

Hoping to make a more useful bug report, I also joined the Rimworld bug report Discord, wherein I discovered that I can't actually post anything anywhere.

Did you introduce yourself and get the "Tester" role? You will need it in order to post a bug report.

Also, make sure you are on the Official Development Discord[discord.gg] and not the Community Discord server.

[Sacheverell]

Have done so, hours ago. I do not have posting permissions outside of Introductions.

Originally posted by Tavero:

Originally posted by Sacheverell:

Hoping to make a more useful bug report, I also joined the Rimworld bug report Discord, wherein I discovered that I can't actually post anything anywhere.

Did you introduce yourself and get the "Tester" role? You will need it in order to post a bug report.

Also, make sure you are on the Official Development Discord[discord.gg] and not the Community Discord server.