RimWorld

RimWorld

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Why even have a discount? This is kinda not cool
It kinda feels as if the devs/publishers are somewhat dishonest. According to SteamDB this game only does 10% sale. It seems as though the devs just do these miniscule sales just so that their game ends up in charts of discounted games so people can find it easier. This isn't very honest behavior imo, considering that this game is 5 and a half years old

Factorio devs, for instance, do not do any sales at all because they have a firm stance against sales policy. It's their principles, which you can totally respect.

Is doing 10% discount every single steam's major sale ever honest? What do you think?
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whatamidoing Feb 14, 2022 @ 1:21pm 
I think it's been discussed to death if you use the search function. People either ♥♥♥♥♥ about no sales or they ♥♥♥♥♥ about the sales not being good enough.
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coyo7e Feb 14, 2022 @ 1:40pm 
This is one of those games where I was told "they never do discounts, so don't wait, just go get it," so I was actually kinda surprised that it does actually have a discount now and then.

I figure after 3k hours playing I probably got my money's worth from buying it full price though
❀ MOSOTO ❀ Feb 14, 2022 @ 1:56pm 
If you like the game it's worth it full price.

Holds up better than most triple a games after the 100h mark.
desrtfox071 Feb 14, 2022 @ 2:09pm 
Originally posted by Dopey Shepard:
Is doing 10% discount every single steam's major sale ever honest? What do you think?

Of course it is. A discount is still a discount.

You aren't so special that a 10% discount is some kind of insult, or dishonest gesture.

If the value isn't there based on whatever price you see, simply don't buy.
cardboardmark Feb 14, 2022 @ 3:18pm 
Worth more than full price.
Jigain Feb 14, 2022 @ 9:31pm 
You're totally right, there shouldn't be any discounts, and in fact they should increase the price by 10% whenever there's a major Steam sale. Thank you for your feedback.
Hunt Daddy Feb 14, 2022 @ 9:38pm 
I got my money's worth. Very happy with it.
schnappkatze Feb 14, 2022 @ 11:30pm 
A discount is not something nice a publisher does, not something to please the fans. Discounts are to make more money of games who already had their run selling for full price to see if there are people who don't like the game enough to pay full price but won't say no to a cheap game they think is kinda interesting.

There is nothing about honesty or fanservice in this equation. Rimworld is unique in what it does and does it well, so it has no real competition. It is also still selling, so there is no reason for a substancial sale.

And comparing it to Factorio is unfair - what game on earth can be compared to Factorio and win?
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Dopey Shepard Feb 14, 2022 @ 11:38pm 
Originally posted by Jigain:
You're totally right, there shouldn't be any discounts, and in fact they should increase the price by 10% whenever there's a major Steam sale. Thank you for your feedback.
So you didn't understand the point of my post and now you are trying to use sarcasm. Ok



Originally posted by QuackBang:
I got my money's worth. Very happy with it.

It's not what this post is about though. I never asked whether its worth 35$ or not. Apples and oranges



Originally posted by desrtfox071:
Originally posted by Dopey Shepard:
Is doing 10% discount every single steam's major sale ever honest? What do you think?

Of course it is. A discount is still a discount.

You aren't so special that a 10% discount is some kind of insult, or dishonest gesture.

If the value isn't there based on whatever price you see, simply don't buy.

When did I say that people who opened their eyes to this seemingly dishonest practice special or anything? This is one of the most expensive indie games out there and it seems like they only do the "sale" just so the game gets put in the category that is gonna be looked through by a lot of people during steam's sale events when a lot of people are on steam buying games. Factorio, for instance, will not be put into that category and as a result doesnt get any sales boost from people browsing that category



Originally posted by ❀ MOSOTO ❀:
If you like the game it's worth it full price.

Holds up better than most triple a games after the 100h mark.

I mean this is all very speculative, no? You could say the same about many games, hell, even free ones. People play League of Legends for thousands of hours, and often without spending a dime on it. This is a 35$ indie game, even more expensive than Factorio, and a whole bunch of paid DLCs too which make it very expensive altogether. It's also not brand new or anything. If devs wanted to show a sign of putting the game on actual discount they should do so with the main game maybe at 25% off minimum and DLCs at 10%



Originally posted by coyo7e:
This is one of those games where I was told "they never do discounts, so don't wait, just go get it," so I was actually kinda surprised that it does actually have a discount now and then.

I figure after 3k hours playing I probably got my money's worth from buying it full price though

Maybe you did, after 3k hours, not everyone will have that kind of commitment to a single game. People spend thousands of hours on modded skyrim and that thing is much cheaper than 75$ indie game with 2 DLCs

Originally posted by schnappkatze:
And comparing it to Factorio is unfair - what game on earth can be compared to Factorio and win?

What do you mean by "win"? Factorio is an indie game worth 30$ that has been in development for a long time. Unlike Rimworld it doesnt have any DLCs right now but the devs stated on the game hub that they have morals against putting the game on sale because they think that the price tag accurately reflects the value of the game and no shady minimum sale number like 10% just so the game will be in "discounted" category during those steam sale weeks. Also, the 2 games are one of the highest rated games on steam at over 98% so YES, i WILL compare it to Factorio because idk what other game I could possibly compare it to. Other indie projects receive adequate discount numbers and their base price is also much lower than those 2
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Bababooey Feb 15, 2022 @ 12:02am 
Look at the user reviews the game is worth full price from small Dev. Mind you i don't own either dlc because i find them high priced. Base game is great plus you can mod it for free.
AlTurGo Feb 15, 2022 @ 12:21am 
Discounts is not a rule. And there are no rules for discounts. Discounts is a dev's try to increase sales... So, if Tynan don't needed in discounts is mean that he be well without it. In comparison, CDPR said that they not planned CP2077 discounts during first year... But they do what they do...
schnappkatze Feb 15, 2022 @ 12:22am 
Originally posted by Dopey Shepard:
Originally posted by schnappkatze:
And comparing it to Factorio is unfair - what game on earth can be compared to Factorio and win?

What do you mean by "win"? Factorio is an indie game worth 30$ that has been in development for a long time. Unlike Rimworld it doesnt have any DLCs right now but the devs stated on the game hub that they have morals against putting the game on sale because they think that the price tag accurately reflects the value of the game and no shady minimum sale number like 10% just so the game will be in "discounted" category during those steam sale weeks. Also, the 2 games are one of the highest rated games on steam at over 98% so YES, i WILL compare it to Factorio because idk what other game I could possibly compare it to. Other indie projects receive adequate discount numbers and their base price is also much lower than those 2

That was a tongue in cheek comment about Factorio being the best game ever, so compared to Factorio of course other games fall short. But that was just a half-serious point at the end, why would you answer that and not the other things I wrote.

I feel like you still haven't explained well enough what exactly your point is. Do you think Rimworld should be on a deep sale? Based on what argument? Do you think Rimworld should have no sale at all instead of 10% sales? Why? It is not much, but it actually is cheaper.
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Vermillion Cardinal Feb 15, 2022 @ 12:36am 
In relation to the original topic, I personally do not think there's any dishonesty. It never even came to mind.

What is so dishonest about a game being on sale, even for a pittance, and having visibility on the front page? There's no finite space for discounted products to go on display to say that RimWorld cheated a different product of its time to shine; Steam algorithms and user filters are also in play to decide what appears on a user's list. A game being old doesn't mean it doesn't deserve a space on the highlight reel whatsoever.

For that matter, a developer of one game doesn't have to be bound by the self-declared policies of a different developer for an entirely unrelated game. There's no law saying that all other developers must follow suit. There's no rule stating that old games have to be heavily discounted to merit having visibility or risk being guilty of dishonesty. There's not even a gentleman's agreement afaik to compete purely on the strengths of the respective games and avoid discounts to prevent unfair advantages over the other.

In the end, the purchaser will be the one making the call on whether to buy; visibility doesn't guarantee a sale. I've ignored tons of games that are wildly popular whether they were on sale or not simply because they do not interest me.

Your question isn't particularly novel; many in the past have raised this in one form or another (always about the 10% discount), and most I know end up locked because they're not useful whatsoever and usually go down in flames.
Dopey Shepard Feb 15, 2022 @ 12:39am 
Originally posted by schnappkatze:
Originally posted by Dopey Shepard:


What do you mean by "win"? Factorio is an indie game worth 30$ that has been in development for a long time. Unlike Rimworld it doesnt have any DLCs right now but the devs stated on the game hub that they have morals against putting the game on sale because they think that the price tag accurately reflects the value of the game and no shady minimum sale number like 10% just so the game will be in "discounted" category during those steam sale weeks. Also, the 2 games are one of the highest rated games on steam at over 98% so YES, i WILL compare it to Factorio because idk what other game I could possibly compare it to. Other indie projects receive adequate discount numbers and their base price is also much lower than those 2

That was a tongue in cheek comment about Factorio being the best game ever, so compared to Factorio of course other games fall short. But that was just a half-serious point at the end, why would you answer that and not the other things I wrote.

I feel like you still haven't explained well enough what exactly your point is. Do you think Rimworld should be on a deep sale? Based on what argument? Do you think Rimworld should have no sale at all instead of 10% sales? Why? It is not much, but it actually is cheaper.

Again, I have no clue where I said that Factorio was "the best game ever". I implied that both rimworld and factorio are 2 of the highest rated games on steam, which is factual. Facts don't care about your feelings. I simply said that factorio devs have a firm "no sale policy" which one could honor and respect so if anything, it was a praise to factorio devs, not the game itself

My original point was that it's shady to put the game on 10% discount only for the game to appear in "discounted" category during steam's many weeks which would attract a lot of customers, especially christmas and new year's holidays. They put the bare minimum discount just so it passes. If devs were honest about their decision to put the game on sale, they would do a bigger %, as a lot of other indie games do, especially ones that were out there since November 2013.

It's literally 75$ for a main game + 2 dlcs for an INDIE game. If you were to buy everything it would cost you 90$ which is kinda absurd if you ask me, considering its a Q4 2013 game essentially. Putting ONLY the main game (no other DLCs have ever been discounted) at a meager 10% off just shows that devs are not being honest about making the game cheaper

If they were to be like Factorio devs, they wouldn't have put all those .99 at the end of their price tags and include the bare minimum discount so they can get more potential sales simply because the game is in "%" category
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