We need an adoption system (for children / family)

[The Blind One]

Too often I get children joining my colony which is totally fine by me, but these little scamps still don't recognize me as a parental figure after being in my colony for the past 8 years. I saw them grow, I fed them, I clothed them, taught them how to shoot their first raider yet they refuse to acknowledge me as a parent despite all that I've done for them.

We need an ritual that allows us to adopt a child if their opinion is high enough and change the pawn relationships with each other. This way children can be adopted into a loving family and suffer the devastating mood debuffs when their beloved ones die.

A system that allows a pawn to become the foster parent (father / mother) for a child and have children who grow up together be siblings (foster siblings) to each other.

Adopt a child today, help the Rim provide foster care for the needy.

[hardy_conrad]

Hmm. I find it really, really rare for a kid to try joining but it does happen... Adoption is an interesting idea. Maybe go looking for kids at an orphanage too, something a little less depressing than a slave trader anyway.

[The Blind One]

Originally posted by hardy_conrad:

Hmm. I find it really, really rare for a kid to try joining but it does happen... Adoption is an interesting idea. Maybe go looking for kids at an orphanage too, something a little less depressing than a slave trader anyway.

Really? Every time I play I get like two to three of them in the early game ... half my colony is just taking care of these little munchkins. I also can't turn them away and send them out to die on the rim ... I have to save every child

[hardy_conrad]

I remember one time an impid wild child was wandering around. Didn't really want to add her to the colony but she was sort of like a mascot. However winter came and I forgot how vulnerable they were to cold. Checked the map, and... It was too late. Felt so traumatized I built a silver tomb to store her in with the hopes of someday getting a resurrection serum.

It would be neat if there were an orphanage as a map feature, like a village except the only thing it trades is kids. And you need to meet certain conditions as a responsible foster parent maybe? Like having good relations with other factions for example.

[BanDHMO]

Character Editor mod is a thing.

[MadArtillery]

Would be nice actually

[Cynddelw]

I've seen some ideologies that have a ritual for adoption. Might have been a mod, but it does exist.

[Ancamarth]

Adopt an orphan whose parents are colonists from our area, fallen on the field of honor fighting against mad cannibals or bloodthirsty mechs.
Adopting a lost child, who arrives exhausted in our colony after escaping bloodthirsty cannibals or crazy mechs...

At the end of a ritual that engages the whole tribe, for those who have the right DLC.
At the end of a party (like a wedding) for basic vanilla.
At the end of a vampiric transformation, for the last DLC (from now on, call me daddy, my baby vampire, uh, sangophage...)

In short, it's missing, that's for sure. Otherwise, how to get these precious eternal penalties, when he loses his new adoptive parents, because of cannibals or mechs, or when they lose their child that they could never have, this godsend, horribly killed by cannibals or mechs while they were fighting a fire, at the other end of the map?

Penalties: that little extra that makes life livelier, with cannibals and mechs.

[funewchie]

Character Editor allows you to tweak that easily.

I had that happen.
Two of my colonists had been kidnapped, one was a female I'd earlier extracted an ovum from. I'd intended her lover to be the one to fertilize when the colony was ready, but then... well, the got kidnapped.
In her memory, I had the other guy in the colony fertilize it, and grew the child in a growth vat.

By chance, the colony later rescued the lover.
In my mind, it would make sense for him to adopt the girl in memory of her missing mother, but obviously, the other guy is marked as her father.

So, I used Character Editor, and tweaked it. The lover was made her father, and the other guy her Birth Father. I'm not sure if I'm understanding the terms correctly, but to me, that makes sense.
The lover is (socially) her father, while the other guy is simply a genetic donor (biological father).

[lydocia]

Originally posted by funewchie:

Character Editor allows you to tweak that easily.

I had that happen.
Two of my colonists had been kidnapped, one was a female I'd earlier extracted an ovum from. I'd intended her lover to be the one to fertilize when the colony was ready, but then... well, the got kidnapped.
In her memory, I had the other guy in the colony fertilize it, and grew the child in a growth vat.

By chance, the colony later rescued the lover.
In my mind, it would make sense for him to adopt the girl in memory of her missing mother, but obviously, the other guy is marked as her father.

So, I used Character Editor, and tweaked it. The lover was made her father, and the other guy her Birth Father. I'm not sure if I'm understanding the terms correctly, but to me, that makes sense.
The lover is (socially) her father, while the other guy is simply a genetic donor (biological father).

I know I'm replying to this very late but "birth parent" isn't vanilla, is it? What mod did you get that from?

[CloudSeeker]

Originally posted by lydocia:

Originally posted by funewchie:

Character Editor allows you to tweak that easily.

I had that happen.
Two of my colonists had been kidnapped, one was a female I'd earlier extracted an ovum from. I'd intended her lover to be the one to fertilize when the colony was ready, but then... well, the got kidnapped.
In her memory, I had the other guy in the colony fertilize it, and grew the child in a growth vat.

By chance, the colony later rescued the lover.
In my mind, it would make sense for him to adopt the girl in memory of her missing mother, but obviously, the other guy is marked as her father.

So, I used Character Editor, and tweaked it. The lover was made her father, and the other guy her Birth Father. I'm not sure if I'm understanding the terms correctly, but to me, that makes sense.
The lover is (socially) her father, while the other guy is simply a genetic donor (biological father).

I know I'm replying to this very late but "birth parent" isn't vanilla, is it? What mod did you get that from?

It actually is vanilla. If you extract an Ovum from one pawn, and implant it into another pawn. The pawn that brithed the child will be "birth mother" while the pawn who had the Ovum extracted is also a mother.

[lydocia]

Originally posted by CloudSeeker:

Originally posted by lydocia:

I know I'm replying to this very late but "birth parent" isn't vanilla, is it? What mod did you get that from?

It actually is vanilla. If you extract an Ovum from one pawn, and implant it into another pawn. The pawn that brithed the child will be "birth mother" while the pawn who had the Ovum extracted is also a mother.

That's fair, I hadn't tried that bit yet. Either way, I've sort of made my own solution to my adoption issue.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3364083523

[NecoGrimReaper]

There is an adoption ritual in a ideology mod (don't know which one haven't used it in a while)

[apud.harald]

Rimworld and System are mutually exclusive. Most of us live in independent tribes and such.

[lydocia]

Originally posted by NecoGrimReaper:

There is an adoption ritual in a ideology mod (don't know which one haven't used it in a while)

Yeah, the Ritual Framework thingy, buuuut that only changes the existing mother/father relationships , mine adds extra relationships so that the birth parents' relationships remain.