Why are monsters and animals in armor?

[Che Manzini]

I went back to playing RimWorld recently and I already had a list of mods ready in advance, but there is something wrong with the mobs and some animals, this became clear when my colony was annihilated right at the beginning by a single BlackSpider (coming from a mod) with 900 armor, and my colonists could do absolutely nothing, not even the bullets were of any use, then I analyzed that an Elephant had 1900 armor durability, I don't know if this came from any of the mods (I have many) but I know that they are the same ones I've always played and I can't identify if this is a bug or not, if anyone knows the origin of this please help.

[kaiyl_kariashi]

sounds like a mod 100%.

only a tiny handful of animals have any built in resistance to damage (Thrumbo/Turtle/Insects/Barkskin Dryad).

[MadArtillery]

Armour durability? If it wasn't health on an equipped piece of gear then whatever combat mod you are running is likely the cause. If you were looking at the health of some modded equipment worn by the animals(not how you check if something has good defence) then just going to the info tab of it would tell you what mod it is from.

[Che Manzini]

the mods I use are the most common, combat extended, several from the Vanilla series, in addition to others quality of life, in the debug log I saw several errors but this seems to be related to Vanilla Factions Expanded - Insectoids 2

[Che Manzini]

link to the log: https://gist.github.com/HugsLibRecordKeeper/c976b01df51973a821f21dee239ee643

[Che Manzini]

after disabling VFEI2 90% of the errors in the log are gone, however it is a very good mod to play without, so I will switch to an earlier version to check if the problem continues

[Che Manzini]

Good news: it is not caused by VFEI2

Bad news: now I don't know what it is

[Steelfleece]

Welp. Hate to say 'Probably a CE incompatibility', but it very much could be.

Open up dev mode. Spawn an elephant. See if it still has the same issue when spawned that way. If it does, go out, remove a half dozen or so mods from the end of your list, start the game again, dev quicktest for a map, and dev spawn an elephant to check again. Keep doing that until the elephant doesn't have that armor, then you'll know which group of mods the issue came from and can try to narrow it down further.

[MadArtillery]

Originally posted by Steelfleece:

Welp. Hate to say 'Probably a CE incompatibility', but it very much could be.

Open up dev mode. Spawn an elephant. See if it still has the same issue when spawned that way. If it does, go out, remove a half dozen or so mods from the end of your list, start the game again, dev quicktest for a map, and dev spawn an elephant to check again. Keep doing that until the elephant doesn't have that armor, then you'll know which group of mods the issue came from and can try to narrow it down further.

I was tempted to say it a few hours ago but I know CE users can get a bit spicy about that. It is true though, 100% just something not working with CE and since CE needs a patch specifically for damn near every mod that isn't too surprising.

[Aranador]

Yeah CE is a wonderful mod, as long as you dont mind everything else being busted.

[Che Manzini]

I did this process just yesterday and it really was the CE, I sent a message on their discord to inform more possibly it will not be resolved anytime soon, it's a shame because among the mods I have it is one of the ones that affects the gameplay a lot

[Che Manzini]

I tried to find on Discord some complaint like mine but it seems that it doesn't have, I don't know if it's because my Rimworld is not original, but if it is it will have to stay like this, I can't afford to pay the price of this game