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what's the "Related too" cutoff point?
attempting to run a long-going colony of people having children and passing on and the like, but viable new recruits are few and far between.

Currently i'm at my 3rd generation, which between my original 4-6 starting colonists, means everyone is basically cousins with one another, which means they won't form romantic relationships with one another due to being incestuous, which naturally, makes sense.

what i want to know is how far removed from one another do they need to be before they'll stop considering themselves related and be able to form relationships with one another again, third cousin? fourth cousin? fifth? or is it a "If you share any common ancestor at all, even if it's 50 generations ago, relationship is still considered incestuous" situation?
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MadArtillery 1 月 6 日 上午 8:15 
Well not being able to have relationships is incorrect, they can't be manually told to make relationships but they can still happen passively. I've had a colony that was almost entirely the incest babies of a brother sister starting duo. The garenteed success chance of the psychic bond gene led to my weirdest colony.

As for cutoffs I have no idea, all the kids married anomaly clones of eachother for the third generation. I'm sure someone else will know though.
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Astasia 1 月 6 日 上午 8:51 
There is no "cutoff" AFAIK. It's a multiplier to romance attempt based on how closely related they are.

1st degree relations are a 3% romance chance factor
2nd degree relations are a 25% chance
3rd degree and higher are 50%, it goes quite deep, 4th degree and higher are called "kin" by the game, I don't know of any limit.

Get some aesthetic shapers/noses or a beauty gene and throw all those cousins in a room and they will probably form up pretty quickly.
TamTroll 1 月 6 日 上午 10:27 
引用自 Astasia
There is no "cutoff" AFAIK. It's a multiplier to romance attempt based on how closely related they are.

1st degree relations are a 3% romance chance factor
2nd degree relations are a 25% chance
3rd degree and higher are 50%, it goes quite deep, 4th degree and higher are called "kin" by the game, I don't know of any limit.

Get some aesthetic shapers/noses or a beauty gene and throw all those cousins in a room and they will probably form up pretty quickly.

H'uh, so i guess 4th degree is the cutoff then? i'm assuming by that point the romance chance bumps back up to the default at least, same as it would be for two unrelated pawns.

it would really make no sense to limit them if they're that distantly related.


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Astasia 1 月 6 日 上午 10:35 
引用自 TamTroll
H'uh, so i guess 4th degree is the cutoff then? i'm assuming by that point the romance chance bumps back up to the default at least, same as it would be for two unrelated pawns.

it would really make no sense to limit them if they're that distantly related.

No, "kin" is still a 50% romance chance factor.
TamTroll 1 月 6 日 上午 10:46 
引用自 Astasia
引用自 TamTroll
H'uh, so i guess 4th degree is the cutoff then? i'm assuming by that point the romance chance bumps back up to the default at least, same as it would be for two unrelated pawns.

it would really make no sense to limit them if they're that distantly related.

No, "kin" is still a 50% romance chance factor.

okay, so when does it become 100% again?
I don't see why it would. The game was never intended to be a multi-decade simulation; I think even with the addition of the Archonexus quest only a few players will ever get to three generations and I would bet there's a countable number of people who've gotten to six. The main thing preventing actual human incest isn't a biological instinct, it's the knowledge of relation.
TamTroll 1 月 6 日 上午 11:38 
well that's kind of dumb, i'm not interested in leaving the planet, or looking for an archonexus, i'm interested in running a long-lasting colony, for as long as i can at least.

Having a colony full of old people because nobody wants to hook up due to them sharing a great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather is just stupid. Like it wouldn't matter at that point, that's just normal people in general.
Radiosity 1 月 6 日 下午 12:25 
引用自 endymionologist
The main thing preventing actual human incest isn't a biological instinct, it's the knowledge of relation.
It's actually both. Directly related family members secrete pheromones that mean they'll not find each other attractive. It's not perfect and 'nurture' can override it for the right personality types, but it's more than merely a social thing.
Radiosity 1 月 6 日 下午 12:26 
引用自 TamTroll
well that's kind of dumb, i'm not interested in leaving the planet, or looking for an archonexus, i'm interested in running a long-lasting colony, for as long as i can at least.

Having a colony full of old people because nobody wants to hook up due to them sharing a great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather is just stupid. Like it wouldn't matter at that point, that's just normal people in general.
You could try a mod like Romance Tweaks, which lets you bump the chances for incestuous relationships to happen, as well as other things like age gap lovin' chances.
TamTroll 1 月 6 日 下午 12:32 
引用自 Radiosity
引用自 TamTroll
well that's kind of dumb, i'm not interested in leaving the planet, or looking for an archonexus, i'm interested in running a long-lasting colony, for as long as i can at least.

Having a colony full of old people because nobody wants to hook up due to them sharing a great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather is just stupid. Like it wouldn't matter at that point, that's just normal people in general.
You could try a mod like Romance Tweaks, which lets you bump the chances for incestuous relationships to happen, as well as other things like age gap lovin' chances.

well i don't want incestuous relationships, i just want them to recognise 4th cousins and beyond as not incestuous. By that point you're barely related at all, so i don't think it should matter, especially in a relatively small colony like you get in rimworld.
Radiosity 1 月 6 日 下午 5:44 
Do you 'have' close siblings? Sounds like most of them aren't directly related, so the mod wouldn't be an issue.
TamTroll 1 月 6 日 下午 6:18 
引用自 Radiosity
Do you 'have' close siblings? Sounds like most of them aren't directly related, so the mod wouldn't be an issue.

i have a series of cousins and niblings, and a dwindling supply of fresh blood. so the hope is that a few generations down the line i'll be able to spawn a generation or two using only pre-existing colonists and without needing to recruit a prisoner or have a wanderer join in.


But if having ANY common ancestor no moatter how far removed restricts relationships like this, then idk if that's possible. i'd like a stable colony that doesn't constantly need an influx of new people joining in again and again. i'm playing a colony of a single custom Xenotype that doesn't spawn in often, and my colonists keep killing invaders rather then downing them. so my options are severely limited here.
Astasia 1 月 6 日 下午 7:47 
引用自 TamTroll
okay, so when does it become 100% again?

Like I said in my first reply, I don't believe it does.

Also a 50% multiplier is pretty inconsequential, so cousins and kin will not have any issues forming relationships. So again like I said in my first reply, get them some beauty and put them in a room together and you should get new relations forming pretty easily.
jacobellinger 1 月 7 日 上午 12:10 
引用自 TamTroll
attempting to run a long-going colony of people having children and passing on and the like, but viable new recruits are few and far between.

Currently i'm at my 3rd generation, which between my original 4-6 starting colonists, means everyone is basically cousins with one another, which means they won't form romantic relationships with one another due to being incestuous, which naturally, makes sense.

what i want to know is how far removed from one another do they need to be before they'll stop considering themselves related and be able to form relationships with one another again, third cousin? fourth cousin? fifth? or is it a "If you share any common ancestor at all, even if it's 50 generations ago, relationship is still considered incestuous" situation?
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