Guys help, does anybody know how transhumanist meme works with no sleep gene

[Ivanchin55]

So i play with fluid ideology, and have a slot for meme, so i thinking about transhumanist, but all my colonists have no sleep gene and i don't know how it will interact. Does having no sleep gene removes need for sleep axelerator or no?

[Triple G]

Is there a need for these? They only give a mood buff if they´re used, no?

There´s a need for age reversal - and i´m unsure if there´s a need for neural supercharge.

[Khan Boyzitbig of Mercia]

They want the neural supercharge, they want the age reversal, they don't mind not having the sleep accelerator and those who are sleepless would only care if they were resting.

[Ivanchin55]

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They want the neural supercharge, they want the age reversal, they don't mind not having the sleep accelerator and those who are sleepless would only care if they were resting.

Thanks, then i will make my colony transhumanist without any worries :)

[Garatgh Deloi]

Did they change that? Fairly certain i got a negative mod debuff for not having sleep accelerators in a sleepless colony around biotech's release. That said, i think it was a tiny debuff.

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Did they change that? Fairly certain i got a negative mod debuff for not having sleep accelerators in a sleepless colony around biotech's release. That said, i think it was a tiny debuff.

I've played transhumanists a lot lately and they've never complained about not having sleep accelerators (unlike neural charge, age reversal and certain ritual things and roles).
My colony is at high expectations right now. Perhaps if expectations get higher it becomes a thing?

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Did they change that? Fairly certain i got a negative mod debuff for not having sleep accelerators in a sleepless colony around biotech's release. That said, i think it was a tiny debuff.

I've played transhumanists a lot lately and they've never complained about not having sleep accelerators (unlike neural charge, age reversal and certain ritual things and roles).
My colony is at high expectations right now. Perhaps if expectations get higher it becomes a thing?

hm. My conversion role colonist has Elite Expectations, which is a -6, but giving her a sleep accelerator didn't make her happier, so apparently they're just not important at all (she's not sleepless).

I don't know what she feels she's missing; the game doesn't tell me anything.

[Triple G]

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hm. My conversion role colonist has Elite Expectations, which is a -6, but giving her a sleep accelerator didn't make her happier, so apparently they're just not important at all (she's not sleepless).

I don't know what she feels she's missing; the game doesn't tell me anything.

The leader and the "spiritual guide" have higher expectations. It´s the normal debuff for the expectations. You start the game with very low expectations which give a buff, and then - the more wealth You have - or the more time passes by - the higher the expectations become, and with it the mood buff goes away, and then into negative. Because You have other means to get the mood up, and usually would be nearly maxed out 24/7 if there´s no psychic drone.

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hm. My conversion role colonist has Elite Expectations, which is a -6, but giving her a sleep accelerator didn't make her happier, so apparently they're just not important at all (she's not sleepless).

I don't know what she feels she's missing; the game doesn't tell me anything.

The leader and the "spiritual guide" have higher expectations. It´s the normal debuff for the expectations. You start the game with very low expectations which give a buff, and then - the more wealth You have - or the more time passes by - the higher the expectations become, and with it the mood buff goes away, and then into negative. Because You have other means to get the mood up, and usually would be nearly maxed out 24/7 if there´s no psychic drone.

I know. I just find it curious a sleep accelerator doesn't seem to matter when the idology has it listed as seemingly as important as age reversal and the other stuff. Clearly her high expectations don't make it more important (like it does with the other things a transhumanist considers important).

[Triple G]

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I know. I just find it curious a sleep accelerator doesn't seem to matter when the idology has it listed as seemingly as important as age reversal and the other stuff. Clearly her high expectations don't make it more important (like it does with the other things a transhumanist considers important).

My guess is at some point they changed something - the thing is that the meme says "age reversal: demanded" - which makes it clear that there would be a debuff, but for neurocharger and sleep acceleator, it´s called "preferred", while the neurocharger gives a debuff, but the sleep accelerator not. It should be called "neurocharge: demanded" as well, to make it clear.

It being "preferred" and giving a mood buff if used - makes sense imho. It being preferred and giving a mood debuff if not being used - makes no sense...

But anyways: the sleep accelerator is good - actually not for the accelerated sleep, but for the 10% consciousness buff, and the 25% learning speed.